ROGD

On Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria

It’s very good to hear that there are scientists that dare to dive into ROGD. My daughter here in Amsterdam had gender dysphoria out of the blue during the depressing lock downs when she was 13. Within a year they wanted to give her puberty blockers at the VU medical center knowing that 98% proceed into transition. I took her away from these people and by now she is happy and starting to wear female clothes and make-up again. Keep doing your good work Michael our children need you! - @stefke5862

I bumped into this podcast between Chris Wiliamson and Michael Bailey regarding his maliciously retracted recent study on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (RODG).

It’s a subject that interests me and that I have written about before, but the attempted censorship alone was enough to motivate me to amplify its reach with this stack.

To start with please download the article using this link, as it will impact the paper’s overall value metrics which is the best way to thumb our noses at the censors.

RETRACTED ARTICLE: Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases | Archives of Sexual Behavior (springer.com)

Here is the pdf in case the link is removed one day.

Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria Parent Reports On 1655 Possible Cases

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Here is a simple explanation of the Abstract.

The study focuses on a specific type of gender dysphoria called Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD). ROGD is a controversial idea suggesting that this sudden feeling of being in the wrong gender can spread socially among groups of young people.

Here are the key points of the abstract in simple terms:

1. Survey of Parents: The researchers conducted a survey of parents who visited a website called ParentsofROGDKids.com. These parents believed their children had ROGD.

2. Age and Gender of the Youths: The study looked at 1,655 young people aged 11 to 21 who suddenly started feeling gender dysphoria. Most of these youths (75%) were born female (natal female). Boys (natal males) generally started feeling this way later than girls, and fewer boys took steps to transition to another gender compared to girls.

3. Mental Health Issues: Many of these young people had mental health problems before they started feeling gender dysphoria. Those with pre-existing mental health issues were more likely to transition socially (like changing their name or the pronouns they use) and medically (like taking hormones or having surgery).

4. Parents' Experiences with Clinicians: The parents often felt that doctors and therapists pushed them to agree with their child's new gender identity and support their transition.

5. Deterioration in Mental Health: According to the parents, the mental health of these young people got worse after they started transitioning socially.

I did not have rapid onset gender dysphoria - I was convinced I was meant to be a boy since as long ago as I can remember. I enjoyed ‘boy’s toys and activities’ - an archetypal extreme tomboy. My parents accepted me for the personality I had and did not force me to wear dresses and encouraged me academically. My father taught me to fish, garden and repair engines before I was 9. My friends were all male. I had an accepting community. I am soooo glad that I was raised before puberty blockers or cross sex hormones were available. I HATED PUBERTY AND MY DEVELOPING BODY FROM 10, I had very painful periods and loathed my life from starting my periods at 11 until 14/15 when I started to find boys really attractive and although I continued to prefer non- ‘extreme girly’ clothes and continued to enjoy fishing, climbing etc, I became happy in my female skin. Went on to have a long happy marriage children and grandchildren and a successful career in a (then) male-oriented field. Had puberty blockers and ‘gender affirmation’ medication and surgery been available 60 years ago, I’d have shouted and screamed to get it and my life would have taken a very different and much less fulfilling course. These b……. who pretend that children (even forcefully opinionated and articulate children like I was) can consent to life altering medication (and in every likelihood long term misery) ought to be in gaol. Those who ‘groom’ online are to be condemned - @sisiphas

I have written at length about this subject, in fact I produced a whole eBook on it.

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This recent ROGD paper fits into one of the earliest analyses of this phenomenon by Abigail Shirer. This for page 23 of my eBook.

This is a section from the podcast where Shrier is talking about Gender Dysphoria and how it has changed from basically being a diagnosis in very young boys (for all of its history) to very recently becoming a diagnosis mainly in teenage girls.

Well, I actually asked a bunch of you know, I interviewed I conducted nearly 200 interviews for the book and I actually asked a lot of scientists once I had some numbers, what do you call this? What is it when we have 100 year diagnostic history of gender dysphoria and it always afflicted boys and men. OK, and now for the very first time in the last decade, there has been a giant surge in a different population claiming to be gender dysphoria. It has shifted from from onset in young boys and to teenage girls with no childhood history. And it's shifted from men to women. So I asked them, when you have a demographic jump and all of a sudden they are as these teenage girls now the leading demographic.

So these are girls who, as a population, experienced virtually no gender dysphoria throughout history. Suddenly being the leading demographic. I would ask them, what do you call that? Is there a scientific term for this? And they would almost all say, yes, an epidemic.

Said another way, it is a psychological contagion and teenage girls especially are prone to that phenomenon.

I’ve recently come across this stack cross posting a review by Jenny Poyer Ackerman of an important new book in the space “When Kids Say They’re Trans”.

What Did You Do During the Transgender Social Contagion? (substack.com)

The original is here on Ackerman’s Substack:

To get an idea of the heavy lifting When Kids Say They’re Trans takes on, you have to know that the current ideas of ‘best practice’ in therapy are 100% aligned with the media in terms of ideological certainty. For example, if you seek professional therapeutic help for your daughter because she’s suddenly declared a need for a double mastectomy now, and changes her name to Flame after spending the weekend mainlining YouTube videos; you need to know the therapist you’ve booked has probably been trained not only to agree with your daughter that this plan is awesome but to cast you as a suppressive transphobe from whom Flame might actually need to distance theirself in order to ‘stay safe.’

Back to the report, on page 7 you will find Table 4. Here is that table explained:

This table presents data from a survey of parents regarding the formal mental health diagnoses of their gender dysphoric children, broken down by the children's natal sex (natal females and natal males). The table also includes statistical tests (chi-square tests, denoted as χ2) to determine if there are significant differences in these diagnoses between natal females and males. Here's an analysis of the key findings:

1. Anxiety: 32.5% of natal females and 27.3% of natal males were diagnosed with anxiety.

2. Depression: 29.1% of natal females and 22.7% of natal males were diagnosed with depression.

3. ADHD: Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) was diagnosed in 13.0% of natal females and 19.5% of natal males.

4. Autism: 6.5% of natal females and 13.3% of natal males were diagnosed with autism.

5. Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD): OCD was diagnosed in 3.0% of natal females and 4.9% of natal males.

6. Borderline Personality Disorder: This disorder was more common in natal females (3.0%) compared to natal males (0.7%).

7. Bipolar Disorder: The diagnosis of bipolar disorder was more common in natal females (1.9%) than in natal males (0.5%).

8. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD): PTSD was diagnosed in 2.8% of natal females and 0.5% of natal males.

9. Eating Disorders (Body Dysmorphia, Anorexia, Bulimia): These disorders were slightly more common in natal females (2.1%) than in natal males (1.0%).

10. Antisocial Personality Disorder and Schizophrenia: Both disorders show very low percentages with no significant differences between natal females and males.

Notice the top 4 diagnoses in this cohort of 1,655 young people.

I would like to see research that investigates whether there is an autism (ASD) correlation with gender dysphoria and whether there could be a causal connection.

Also, how much of these young people’s conditions are side effects of medication even before the social contagion aspect comes into the mix.

RODG is a modern manufacture.

We might argue about HOW it’s being created, but there is no doubt that there are forces at play directly or indirectly, purposefully or accidentally, manufacturing it.

I think part of the reason proponents are so extreme in their reaction to any opposition is that they can’t even consider the possibility that they are wrong because if they are wrong the implications of what they have caused to happen is actually horrifying. - @bigheadrhino

Comprehensive Summary:

The video titled "The Research On Sexuality They Don't Want You to See - Michael Bailey | Modern Wisdom 654" features an in-depth interview with J. Michael Bailey, a professor of psychology at Northwestern University. The discussion, hosted by Chris Williamson on the Modern Wisdom podcast, delves into Bailey's controversial research on sexual orientation and human sexuality, particularly focusing on his recent study on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) and its implications.

Background of the Study and Controversy:

Bailey begins by explaining the circumstances leading to the retraction of his recent article on ROGD. He clarifies that the retraction was not due to academic misconduct like fraud or plagiarism but was a result of pressure from transgender activists and their allies. This pressure, he suggests, was due to the discomfort caused by the study's findings, which contradicted certain beliefs held by these activists. Bailey emphasizes the importance of the study, noting its high download rate and media coverage, indicating significant public interest.

Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD):

The core of the discussion revolves around ROGD, a phenomenon where adolescent girls, without previous indications of gender dysphoria, suddenly identify as transgender. Bailey explains that this surge in gender dysphoria cases, particularly among adolescent girls, is a recent development. The study surveyed 1,655 parents, revealing that these youths had pre-existing mental health issues, which often preceded any gender-related issues by several years. He notes that social and medical transitions in these youths often led to worsening mental health, contradicting the narrative that transitioning is always beneficial.

Cultural and Peer Influence:

Bailey and Williamson discuss the role of cultural factors and peer influence in the development of ROGD. They explore the idea that adolescent girls, especially those with pre-existing mental health issues, might be influenced by their social environment and peer groups to identify as transgender. This hypothesis suggests that ROGD might be more of a social phenomenon than previously understood.

Sexual Orientations of Transgender Individuals:

The conversation shifts to the sexual orientations of transgender individuals, with Bailey noting significant changes over the past two decades. He discusses various aspects of transgender sexuality, including the concept of autogynephilia¹ – a male's sexual arousal by the thought of being a woman. This concept, Bailey notes, is controversial and often opposed by transgender activists.

My professor in college wrote a book on S&M and we spent a great deal of time discussing autogynophilia amongst other things ... sadly it was probably around the last year's of real discussions surrounding deviance of sexuality openly and honestly because of people getting offended. It's scary really because people's feelings now matter more then reality and facts. - @jmlorenzo3639

Gynandromorphophilia²:

Another topic of discussion is gynandromorphophilia, defined as a sexual attraction to transgender individuals with both female and male characteristics. Bailey explains that this form of attraction is different from typical heterosexual or homosexual orientations and is more prevalent than commonly understood.

Heterosexual Women's Genital Indifference:

Bailey discusses a laboratory finding that heterosexual women show a pattern of genital indifference when exposed to various erotic stimuli. This finding suggests that women's sexual arousal patterns might be less specific than men's, responding equally to different types of sexual stimuli.

Malleability of Male Mate Value:

The interview touches on the concept of the malleability of male mate value compared to female mate value. Bailey discusses the idea that men's mate value is more tied to accomplishments, which can change over time, whereas women's mate value is often perceived as more closely linked to physical appearance.

Existence of Male Bisexuality:

A significant part of the discussion is dedicated to the existence of male bisexuality. Bailey talks about his laboratory studies that confirm the existence of true male bisexuality, where men show arousal to both male and female stimuli. This finding challenges the stereotype that bisexual men are actually gay.

Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation:

Bailey and Williamson explore the impact of environmental factors on sexual orientation. Bailey suggests that while men's sexuality is less responsive to cultural pressures, women's sexuality might be more influenced by cultural and societal factors.

Gaydar and Sexual Orientation Perception:

The concept of 'gaydar' – the ability to discern someone's sexual orientation – is also discussed. Bailey affirms that people often have a better-than-chance ability to identify sexual orientation, relying on cues like movement and speech patterns.

Paraphilias and Sexual Orientation:

The interview delves into various paraphilias (unusual sexual interests) and their potential biological underpinnings. Bailey discusses how these paraphilias might be more prevalent in men due to the nature of male sexuality.

Complexity of Sexual Orientation:

Bailey and Williamson discuss the complexities and nuances of sexual orientation, especially in the context of gender presentation. They explore how sexual attraction is influenced by both biological and presentation factors, leading to a blurring of lines between different sexual orientations.

Cultural and Societal Changes:

The conversation touches on the broader cultural and societal changes impacting male-female interactions and academic freedom. Bailey expresses concern about certain current trends and the need for more open and honest discussions in these areas.

Conclusion and Further Information:

The interview concludes with Bailey encouraging viewers and listeners to access his academic papers and research through platforms like Google Scholar and ResearchGate. He offers his university email for those seeking further information or assistance.

In summary, the video provides a comprehensive exploration of various aspects of human sexuality, challenging conventional narratives and highlighting the complexity and diversity of sexual orientation and gender identity. Bailey's insights, based on his extensive research and academic experience, offer a nuanced perspective on these often controversial and misunderstood topics.

A close female family member of mine started to transition at 17 after her trans friend tragically died. She then went onto to college where she was given hormones and had her breasts lopped off, all paid for by the Canadian tax payers under Trudeau. It’s been several years that’s she’s on these hormones now. She’s physically unhealthy, appears to have a drinking problem and all the testosterone seems to have stunted her cognitive maturity. She stopped talking to me after I told her I don’t agree that minors can consent to puberty blockers. I’m filled with helplessness, sadness and anger. - @littlebird3495

Key Takeaways:

1. J. Michael Bailey's recent study on sexuality was retracted due to pressure from transgender activists, despite no evidence of fraud or grievous mistakes.

2. The study focused on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD), a phenomenon where adolescent girls suddenly identify as transgender without prior indications of gender dysphoria.

3. ROGD is linked to a surge in gender dysphoria cases, especially in adolescent girls who have pre-existing mental health issues.

4. The study surveyed 1,655 parents, revealing that mental health issues in these youths preceded gender issues by an average of four years.

5. Social and medical transitions in these youths often led to worsening of their mental health.

6. The concept of ROGD is controversial and opposed by some transgender activists as it challenges their belief system.

7. Bailey's study suggests that cultural factors and peer influence play a significant role in the development of ROGD.

8. The study also touches on the sexual orientations of transgender individuals, noting changes over the past two decades.

9. Bailey discusses the concept of autogynephilia, a male's sexual arousal by the thought of being a woman, and its controversial nature.

10. The interview explores the concept of gynandromorphophilia, a sexual attraction to transgender individuals with both female and male characteristics.

11. The discussion includes the malleability of male mate value compared to female mate value and its implications.

12. Bailey addresses the existence of male bisexuality, confirming its existence through laboratory studies.

13. The interview touches on the impact of environmental factors on sexual orientation.

14. Bailey suggests that men's sexuality is less responsive to cultural pressures compared to women's.

Excerpts:

1. "Our article was retracted because of the ideas and the evidence it presented that angered transgender activists."

2. "Rapid onset gender dysphoria is the explanation of the surge in cases of gender dysphoria that has happened over the past decade."

3. "Parents said after they socially transitioned they got worse... they became less happy, less close to their parents."

4. "Trans activists cannot stand the idea of Rapid onset gender dysphoria because it is threatening to their belief system."

5. "Autogynephilia is a sexual orientation whereby a man is sexually aroused by the idea of being a woman."

6. "Male bisexuality truly exists... there is a subset of bisexual men who clearly produce arousal to male stimuli and to female stimuli."

7. "Men's sexuality is not going to be responsive to cultural pressure much... women are likely different and more responsive to cultural factors."

Statistics:

1. The study surveyed 1,655 parents of youths with suspected ROGD.

2. Three-quarters of the youths in the study were girls.

3. Mental health issues in these youths preceded gender issues by an average of four years.

4. About 60% of the youths had taken steps to socially transition.

5. Only about 7% had obtained medical treatment for gender transition.

6. The study found that social and medical transitions often led to worsening mental health in these youths.

I have never had any issue with gender identity. But I can say that when I was a young child I remember my mum telling me she wanted me to be a girl. As she had already had my brother and they had no desire to have more children. I remember wanting so badly to be a girl just to make my mum happy. But she explained she is not upset or sad I am a boy. She loves me no matter what. Which now as an adult I 100% understand. Yet I can only imagine if I had voiced this concern to a "modern" teacher. They would have ruined my life off of a single simple non contextual comment made by my mother. Just because I was not mature enough to understand the meaning behind my mums words. - @richardowens3343

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1. Autogynephilia is a term used in the field of sexology to describe a male's sexual arousal by the thought or fantasy of being a woman. This concept was popularized by sexologist Ray Blanchard in the late 20th century. It is characterized by the occurrence of sexual arousal in men when they imagine themselves as women, which can manifest in various fantasies, such as wearing women's clothing, having female anatomy, or engaging in stereotypically female activities.

Key aspects of autogynephilia include:

1.       Cross-Gender Fantasies: Individuals with autogynephilia often have fantasies where they see themselves as women, which can be sexually arousing for them.

2.       Association with Transgender Identity: Some individuals with autogynephilia may identify as transgender and may pursue gender transition. However, not all transgender women experience autogynephilia, and not all with autogynephilia identify as transgender.

3.       Different from Traditional Sexual Orientations: Autogynephilia is distinct from more traditional categories of sexual orientation like heterosexuality, homosexuality, or bisexuality. It focuses on the self's transformation into a woman as the source of arousal.

4.       Controversy: The concept of autogynephilia is controversial and has been the subject of debate within both the transgender community and among professionals in psychology and sexology. Some argue that the concept pathologizes transgender identities and experiences, while others believe it offers a valuable framework for understanding certain experiences of gender dysphoria and transgender identity.

5.       Variability in Expression: The expression of autogynephilia can vary widely among individuals. For some, it might involve private fantasies, while for others, it might involve outward expressions such as cross-dressing.

2. Gynandromorphophilia is a sexual interest in individuals who possess a combination of male and female physical characteristics. The term is often used in the context of attraction to transgender individuals, particularly those who are male-to-female (MTF) and have both feminine features (such as breasts from hormone therapy or breast augmentation) and male genitalia.

Key aspects of gynandromorphophilia include:

1.       Specific Focus on Mixed Characteristics: Gynandromorphophilia is characterized by sexual attraction to individuals who combine both male and female anatomical features. This attraction is specifically towards the blend of these characteristics, rather than a general attraction to transgender people as a whole.

2.       Distinction from Other Sexual Orientations: It differs from more traditional sexual orientations like heterosexuality, homosexuality, or bisexuality. The focus of attraction is not solely based on the gender identity or natal sex of the person but on the presence of both male and female physical traits.

3.       Relation to Transgender Individuals: The term is often associated with attraction to transgender women, particularly those who have not undergone genital surgery. This can include individuals who are in various stages of transition.

4.       Controversy and Sensitivity: Like autogynephilia, gynandromorphophilia is a subject of debate and can be sensitive within the transgender community.

5.       Psychological and Sexological Interest: Researchers in psychology and sexology have studied gynandromorphophilia to understand its implications for sexual orientation and gender identity. However, it remains a relatively niche area of study with limited mainstream recognition.