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Your posts have been coming in at such a pace that I've had to pass over most of them but as you might expect, I don't want to do that here. I'll be brief, though, because I have a full plate already this weekend.

I came across Lobaczewski's book through the people that republished it. They are who I learned from about psychopathy, psyops, and much more, over a span of more than a decade. We parted company about a decade ago. That was one of several extended group-based "learning experiences" that I have gone through in my life. What I write about now draws upon it all.

I came across Jordan Peterson in 2017 and followed what he was doing with interest for a few years. At some point I lost interest.

I see a lot here in this post about what WPATH represents today. From that perspective, I view it as an organization that, like others I have known (but not the above-mentioned people) that was infiltrated and destroyed. I do not recognize it. It is gone.

When I transitioned male-to-female in 2006-7, I had a transition team in accordance with WPATH protocol and an SRS surgeon that required letters from each of them, also in accordance with WPATH. In my case the team consisted of a psychologist, a licensed LMFT counselor, and an MD+DO physician. This team constituted the "gatekeepers" that were there to help people avoid making terrible transition errors.

Children were off limits, and for most of us "recruiting" to the transsexual community made no sense. Who would chose this life, apart from the ones the gatekeepers were there to keep out? We were a private bunch. (I'm simplifying a little; I don't have time for the edge cases.)

Does this sound like WPATH today?

It's possible to go on and on and on about what's wrong with WPATH, the transition industry, and the medical profession in general, but I tend to concentrate more on understanding what happened and what can be learned from it.

In the case of WPATH I wasn't involved with its internals and I don't know what happened, but it sure happened. I could have missed things rushing through your post, but I didn't pick up on anything particularly new to consider (not that it was even meant to deal with such questions). WPATH's demise fits with the pattern of incursion of cultural Marxism, and that's about all I see.

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A friend and I recently had the opportunity to see/hear Jordan Peterson live. (His "We Who Wrestle with God" tour.) It was just incredible ... it was like listening to a stream of consciousness. And he does it all without looking at notes. After the talk, there was a Q&A. Someone asked about the trans topic. Jordan held back nothing ... it was epic. He got a standing ovation.

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