Kerryn
Where do I start…
Let’s start with the fact that this woman, and her wife were both seriously vaccine injured in or around July 2021 (with thanks to Chudov for highlighting this point).
Please pause and think about that. July 2021 until November 2022.
17 months.
This woman, a practicing GP, and ex-head of the AMA, one of the most politically influential medical bodies in the country, got injured, with her wife, in July 2021, then said nothing publicly about it for 6 months until January of 2022 where she promoted the vaccine to 5 year old Australians, then said nothing about their injuries again for another 11 months, while millions of Australians kept getting dosed and redosed and redosed, and then in November 2022, decides to tell some public truths at a kangaroo inquiry.
So, she chose to remain silent for 17 months about her injuries while publicly being part of the “safe & effective” brigade.
Hundreds of thousand, maybe a couple of million (yes that many, any degradation of your immunity is an injury) have been injured in Australia, during her silence. Vaccine related, and material, excess mortality has occurred during her 17 month silence (and narrative cheerleading).
Here is a screen grab, in case she decides to delete her January 2022 tweet.
What is an appropriate word to call this woman? I can think of a few.
Next, let’s look at an email I received from Amelia, with her thoughts about Kerryn.
Remember that Kerryn is a practicing GP (but likes to use Prof in her Twitter handle). In fact, she is the GP to the wife of a friend of a close friend. That wife, is a multi-ongoing-dosed, always masked, children vaccinated, functionally covid-insane woman. Kerryn is her GP, and likely the source of some, if not much of her fear. When we get to Kerryn’s submission you will see why I say that.
All of this has come about because Kerryn decided to come out about her vaccine injury while making a public submission to a “long covid inquiry” in November 2022. More on that later.
With thanks to Amelia.
An interpretation of Kerryn Phelps comments, as quoted in this article:
Kerryn: ‘We did a lot of homework before having the vaccine’
Message: don't blame your GP for recommending vaccines that you may hear has done more harm than good because GPs are conscientious, they do a lot of homework before making recommendations and they sincerely believed the benefits of these vaccines outweighed the risks when they recommended them.
Kerryn and her wife both took the vaccine.
Message: GPs practice what they preach, they took the vaccine. Forget the fact that AHPRA knew some hadn’t and then mandated the jab for all GPs. Forget the fact that GPs who didn’t want to comply with the mandate were in a good position to cheat.
Kerryn’s wife was injured within minutes of having her first dose, Kerryn was injured after having her second dose.
Message: the fact that her wife was severely harmed by her first dose didn’t deter Kerryn from getting her 2nd dose shows that GPs continued to believe that the benefits of these vaccines outweighed the risks of harm even after observing severe side effects in some people and seeing vaccine injuries does not deter GPs from doing their duty to their community.
Kerryn: “vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about” “Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that ‘might undermine the Government’s vaccine rollout’ or risk suspension or loss of their registration,”
Message: blame faceless bureaucrats, not GPs, for GPs failure to warn patients about vaccine injuries when recommending they get their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th doses.
Kerryn: “There has been a delay in recognition of vaccine injury, partly because of under-reporting, concerns about vaccine hesitancy in the context of managing a global pandemic, and needing to find the balance between risks and benefits on a population level,”
Message: You can either blame the last Liberal / National government for ignoring reports of vaccine injuries or excuse them by remembering they had good reasons to ignore vaccine injuries as their job is to do what is right at the population level.
Kerryn: “Within this group of vaccine injured individuals, there is a diminishing cohort of people who have symptoms following immunisation, many of which are similar to Long Covid (such as fatigue and brain fog), but who have not had a Covid infection. These people would be an important subset or control group for studies looking into the pathophysiology, causes of and treatments for Long Covid. It is possible that there is at least some shared pathophysiology between vaccine injury and Long Covid, possibly due to the effects of spike protein.”
Message: GPs will attribute vaccine injuries and illnesses patients link to vaccines to Long Covid. Perhaps compensation for vaccine injuries will only be available to people who got them within a very short time scale or who can prove they never caught Covid-19. Is there a blood test that will prove that a vaccinated person didn’t catch Covid-19? I doubt it. Forget there is another control group, the unvaccinated. How many of them suffer from ‘Long Covid’?
Overall message: people who took the vaccine and people in positions of influence who suppressed information about vaccine injuries were doing the right thing. The benefits of their actions can only be seen at the population level. So if your health deteriorated after you were vaccinated, give yourself a pat on the back for your decision to do your duty to society. If you supported lockdowns etc give yourself a pat on the back. Accept you will never personally experience benefits from being vaccinated or from supporting lockdowns etc because benefits can only be measured by experts who use statistics to analyse population level data.
We can all believe what we want to believe, and Kerryn Phelp's comments will reassure many people.
Remember that she, Kerryn, is also a GP.
Remember, GPs are never to blame.
Remember, it’s not the GPs fault that they are injecting their patients with experimental genetics, they could lose their jobs for God’s sake. Anyone in their position would do the same thing, wouldn’t they?
If financial advisers recommended toxic investments to their clients under the threat of losing their jobs, well obviously who can blame them for shoveling that shit to their trusting clients. The advisers have families, kids in private school, mortgages, holiday homes to maintain. No-one would seriously expect advisers to take a stand and quit their jobs or dob in their employers and masters for that matter.
I found this passage from the article that broke the story stunning:
The Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA), which oversees Australia’s 800,000 registered practitioners and 193,800 students, last year warned that anyone who sought to “undermine” the national Covid vaccine rollout could face deregistration or even prosecution.
I had no idea there were that many!
About 1,000,000 (yes that’s one million!) people in Australia under the thumb of a government agency that can end their career by using a “code of conduct” if they step out of line and “contribute to vaccine hesitancy”.
Australia only has 25 million people.
That is 1 of these “controlled priesthood” for every 25 men, women, children and babies on this island.
That is a simply stunning ratio. To the extent that you want to understand the shape of authoritarian medical tyranny in Australia, that is the ratio that can help you understand it.
This reminds me of a discussion I had with a nurse about a year ago, the wife of an ex-work colleague, that was vaccinating people all week at the clinic she worked. During a chat and knowing that I knew a thing or two about vaccines, she asked me to tell her how they worked, it didn’t feel genuine, almost small talk. I sat there in silence for about a minute and then said, “do you really want to know, if so, I will tell you”, and she in return sat there for about two minutes and then said “no, not really.”
Let’s now look at Kerryn’s November submission to the government’s “Inquiry into LONG COVID AND REPEATED COVID INFECTIONS”. This is where all this recent hoo-ha started.
I found it hard to read, I felt like vomiting at too many points in her 18-page submission. I do recommend you read it though. It’s best to hear it from these horses’ mouths.
For starters, this long covid inquiry is, among other things, a wholesale government attempt at covering up vaccine injury. Yes, long covid is a thing (long any viral infection is a thing), but it has been purposefully and wildly expanded and exaggerated to make the carpet large enough, and thick enough, so that as much vaccine injury as possible can be swept underneath it. They share the same symptoms after all, as we will see Kerryn herself attest to (her 40 years of experience turned out to be good for something).
If you have doubts about the carpet sweeping thesis, here is the list of over 500 submissions, spend a bit of time reading the “name withheld” submissions, and see how many “long covid” stories from the public you read, that also mention that they were vaccinated.
Such as this:
We lived cautiously and were all vaccinated the first day we became eligible.
and this:
I was double vaccinated and I had no pre-existing health conditions.
But if you throw up multiple times while reading it, I have produced an antidote here. I have done a FIND and REPLACE in her submission and replaced Long Covid with Vaccine Injury, and it reads almost perfectly. Here are a couple of beauties.
Dr Anthony Fauci labelled VACCINE INJURY an “insidious public health emergency for millions of people”. I tend to agree.
And this:
People suffering the symptoms of VACCINE INJURY may present to an emergency department or to their GP complaining of chest pain or breathlessness, extreme fatigue, nerve pain or cognitive difficulties.
They may have the standard tests like Xrays and ECGs and CT scans and MRIs and blood tests which come back normal, so they are told there is “nothing to find”.
Every single paragraph of her submission is some version of nauseating (yet it is an important historical document), I’m going to highlight and comment on a few.
TERMS OF REFERENCE
Research into the potential and known effects, causes, risk factors, prevalence, management, and treatment of long COVID and/or repeated COVID infections in Australia;
One of the terms of reference for the inquiry is to look at repeated infections.
Nowhere in her submission does she draw, the now proven link between vaccination, repeated vaccination, and repeated covid infection. She is silent on that matter. We now know that the more you vaccinate, the more likely you are to get covid. She is silent on the matter.
I am a general practitioner with over forty years of clinical experience.
I can only talk about myself, but I had zero years of the “experience” she is referring to, and I knew that injecting the population with an untested new-tech genetic medication was a less than ideal idea.
I then read many books and papers about childhood vaccination and realised that was also a less than ideal idea. Injecting babies with repeated cocktails of ingredients and chemicals while their immune systems and blood brain barrier are still developing is less than ideal.
So, how is it that zero years of experience figured out truths that forty years of experience didn’t. And with that in mind, what is the value of pointing to those forty years? Those forty years didn’t help her or her wife, yet she still defers to those years. Just one of the many cognitive dissonances.
Long COVID is a multi-system disease which may occur after a relatively mild initial infection with the SARS CoV2 virus. If someone is unlucky enough to develop Long COVID or post- COVID syndrome after the initial COVID infection it can linger for months or longer. We don’t yet know how long the condition may persist, or whether in some people the impairment might be permanent. It can affect any age: children, young adults, the elderly.
Here she is pushing the exaggerated threat of covid, and long covid especially. Framing it as a threat to both children and elderly. Sure, anyone can test positive, anyone can also get covid (the disease, not the test), and anyone can in theory die FROM covid, but it is almost statistically impossible for a child do die FROM covid, so why is she pushing that line? I haven’t checked in a while, but I don’t think I’m going out on a limb by saying that I don’t believe there is a single child in Australia that has died FROM and because of Covid, especially if they were UNvaccinated.
If you are going to refer to groups in a sweeping manner, then age-based risk stratification matters. She is silent on that.
Official estimates of SARS CoV2 infection numbers in Australia are over ten million cases, however this is likely to be an underestimate as many cases are now going unreported. To date there have been over 15,700 reported deaths. It is a death toll that in 2022 has been ten times greater in magnitude than the road toll.
In pushing the tens of millions line, she never mentions the myriad of lies within PCR testing and the astonishing 90+% false positive rate, cycle thresholds blah blah blah. This is such old news that I’m sick of repeating it, but here is this woman, with 40 years’ experience remember testifying to government, in November 2022 (!) that all those PCR test results were valid indicators of disease.
She is also pushing the 15,700 death number without mentioning average age of death (being higher than life expectancy) and without mentioning the dying WITH a PCR+ result or dying OF covid. According to her, the ex-head of the AMA, all of those 15,700 (over 3 years!!) were covid deaths and were preventable if only we had done more!
She also does not mention the 160,000 deaths per annum in Australia or just under 500,000 over three years that is NORMAL death, so as to give her 15,700 some honest context.
And as for the death toll analogy. In her mind, the death of an 85 year old that died, most likely because their pneumonia was not treated properly, or because it was simply their time (old people, frail old people, just die at some point), is on par with a hothead 20 year old who died in a car accident. She also doesn’t mention, in her “10x” framing, that there ALWAYS are many, many, many more old people that die each year than road deaths.
She is happy to talk about the 15,700 covid related deaths over three years, but is silent on the 21,000 excess deaths this year. This from the great Arkmedic:
The updated number now is about 21,000.
To put this into perspective that is the equivalent of about 100 fully loaded Qantas 737-800 crashing in one year.
Worse - 30 of those crashes happened after we raised the alarm on the first 70 crashes.
Also, before I move on, it’s possible that a few people don’t undertand what I eman when I say that they died because their pneumonia was not treated propertly. Well Arkmedic in the same artcile does a great job explaining it simply.
Well, part of the reason is the treatment protocols for those with “viral pneumonia” which was not that common as a cause of death. In fact, it is quite common to get a cold and then get a chest infection (aka pneumonia) and prior to 2020 this would have been quite happily treated by your GP with antibiotics before you got ill enough to need to go to hospital. Not now. Now, because of the “evidence based treatment protocols” from covid19evidence.net.au (which have no named author - so who wrote them?), if you get a pneumonia after a positive test for “COVID-19” this is what you are told:
go home
don’t come back until you can’t breathe
don’t take antibiotics of any sort
don’t take any other repurposed and safe drug
only take molnupiravir or paxlovid - which not only don’t work but can make things worse and are experimental
if you do come back we will give you remdesivir even though we know it doesn’t work and causes renal failure
if you can’t maintain your oxygen saturation we will put you on a ventilator rather than treat you with antibiotics
Guess what happens if you follow that protocol, particularly if you’re frail? Your risk of death goes through the roof.
Kerryn is silent on ALL of this in her submission.
To reduce the road toll, we build safer roads, insist on drivers being licenced, enforce speed limits and road rules, mandate wearing of seat belts and prohibit driving while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Not the seat belt analogy again for God’s sake. I thought we were done with that.
Listen to her keywords, “insist”, “enforce”, “mandate”, “prohibit”. How many authoritarian words can you squeeze into one paragraph? She is an articulate, good looking, confident, authoritarian with an expensive haircut.
The World Health Organisation has estimated that between 10 and 20 percent of COVID 19 survivors will be left with lasting symptoms such as extreme exhaustion, cognitive impairment, breathlessness, palpitations and moreii. Current research suggested approximately one in eight people who get COVID19 go on to develop Long COVID, post- infection symptoms lasting for at least a month.
Sure Kerryn, sure. 20% with “lasting symptoms” and 1 in 8 blah blah…sure. Is Kerryn pronounced Karen by the way?
Dr Anthony Fauci labelled Long COVID an “insidious public health emergency for millions of people”. I tend to agree.
A nod to the Pope, to the orthodoxy. She is nothing if not a politician.
We have no way of knowing how long this pandemic will last, or the long-term impact of infection and reinfection, but the early signs are disturbing. The science demonstrates that reinfection worsens Long COVID, even in people who have been vaccinated.
“Even” in the vaccinated, instead of saying “especially” in the vaccinated.
Kerryn, how many unvaccinated people have long covid? And how many compared to the vaccinated? Did you pose that question in your submission? No.
There are reports of a significant increase in diabetes diagnosis after a COVID infection, as well as a doubling of the risk of heart attack or stroke in the year after the infection. There are also reports of cardiac arrests and sudden death in young adults.
People suffering the symptoms of Long COVID may present to an emergency department or to their GP complaining of chest pain or breathlessness, extreme fatigue, nerve pain or cognitive difficulties. They may have the standard tests like Xrays and ECGs and CT scans and MRIs and blood tests which come back normal, so they are told there is “nothing to find”.
This is what sweeping injury under the rug looks like. SADS is linked to covid now, heart attacks and strokes are linked to covid. No mention of vaccines here at all.
Many of my colleagues and I tried to warn that children would be at risk and that opening schools before mitigation plans such as ventilation improvements in classrooms were in place was an unacceptable risk to teachers and students.
A school shutdowner. A teacher protector (from the kids). A zero-covid risk exaggerator.
Masks act as a barrier and reduce the aerosol spread and inhaled viral load of SARS CoV2, and hence the severity of COVID19 if exposed. Some of my colleagues and I tried to encourage to use of face masks from the early days of the pandemic, but there was a strange ideological rather than a reasoned evidence-based resistance. Unfortunately, that resistance came from people in positions of greatest influence over government decisions, despite the research findings or indeed basic logic.
A mask mandater. Especially an N95er. Masks “act as a barrier” after all. Really Kerryn?
The mandatory isolation period for infectious people was reduced from seven days to five days, and then completely removed. The five-day isolation period was inadequate in any event, as over half of people will still be infectious at five days.
When governments removed all isolation requirements on 14 October 2022, in health communication terms it sent a message that it was acceptable to be out and about while infectious, at school, at work, in public transport, in theatres and restaurants, in sports teams, in supermarkets.
Pro-isolation. A zero-covider. In November 2022, she is still talking about zero-covid policies. I guess that’s what 40 years of experience gets you.
Patients I speak to still have the mistaken impression that currently available COVID vaccines will stop them getting COVID and that is all they need to do. This over-reliance on vaccines has come from a misconception that “effective” means “you will not get COVID”, on a background of generations of experience with vaccines which have been able to practically eliminate or vastly reduce the incidence of most preventable childhood diseases like measles, rubella, pertussis and chickenpox. This is not the case with current COVID vaccines.
“Patients I speak to”, remember the wife of the friend of the friend? A woman who has gone insane from her fear of covid, while Kerryn was her doctor.
“still have the mistaken impression”. What are you talking about Kerryn? You are complaining that people believed you and your team when the narrative was that it will stop transmission. What does “still” mean? That people were right to believe “team no transmission” then, but are silly to believe it now…is that what “still” means?
And she off course would not let the moment pass without saying that the childhood vaccines she and her GP stormtroopers have pushed from time immemorial has “practically eliminated” childhood disease. Does better sanitation and nutrition and working conditions and general medical care get at least some of the credit Kerryn?
ADVERSE EVENTS FOLOWING IMMUNISATION
COVID19 vaccination has been central to Australia’s response to the COVID pandemic with the stated aim of reducing the risk of severe disease, hospitalisations and death. The initial urgency of the vaccine rollout was considered necessary to limit the numbers of deaths and hospitalisations that were being experienced in other countries.
In her “stated aims” she conveniently omits the stated aim of stopping transmission. Rewriting history.
Why is AEFI or “VACCINE INJURY” relevant to an inquiry into Long COVID and Reinfection?
There are several reasons.
People who have suffered significant damage to their health from a COVID vaccine are unlikely to be able to safely have further vaccines or booster doses with current vaccines.
If vaccination does confer some protection against Long COVID and reinfection, people who are unable to have further vaccinations or boosters become more vulnerable to Long COVID and to the consequences of reinfection including severe illness, complications of COVID, hospitalisation and death.
What type of pure grade Orwellian double-speak is this?
Let me try to understand what the hell she just said.
Vaccines confer protection from a diagnosis (long covid) that can be caused by vaccines. Then, if you cannot take more vaccines then you are vulnerable to the conditions that vaccines cause. My head is hurting.
This is an issue that I have witnessed first-hand with my wife who suffered a severe neurological reaction to her first Pfizer vaccine within minutes, including burning face and gums, paraesethesiae, and numb hands and feet, while under observation by myself, another doctor and a registered nurse at the time of immunisation. I continue to observe the devastating effects a year and a half later with the addition of fatigue and additional neurological symptoms including nerve pains, altered sense of smell, visual disturbance and musculoskeletal inflammation. The diagnosis and causation has been confirmed by several specialists who have told me that they have seen “a lot” of patients in a similar situation.
Her wife was injured “within minutes”.
How come in this instance that was not a coincidence. Why is her wife’s injury within minutes linked to the vaccine, but every other Australian’s a coincidence, anecdotal?
Jackie asked me to include her story to raise awareness for others.
Oh, she did, did she? Why?
Jackie, if you thought that your injury was publicly relevant why have you waited for 17 months to come out?
And why have you done it via your Mrs, and not directly. There isn’t a TV station in the land that wouldn’t have done “an exclusive” with you.
We did a lot of homework before having the vaccine, particularly about choice of vaccine at the time. In asking about adverse side effects, we were told that “the worst thing that could happen would be anaphylaxis” and that severe reactions such as myocarditis and pericarditis were “rare”.
“A lot of homework”, that’s nice. What did that look like? You spoke to other GP colleagues? You know, those that were prevented for “creating vaccine hesitancy”, those doctors?
Did you use your 40 years of experience while doing your “a lot of homework”? What does it say about your 40 years? By the way, during that 40 years, and while you were the head of the AMA, did you deregister or threaten to deregister any doctors that raised concerns about childhood vaccination?
I was also diagnosed with a vaccine injury from my second dose of Pfizer vaccine in July 2021, with the diagnosis and causation confirmed by specialist colleagues.
I have had CT pulmonary angiogram, ECG, blood tests, cardiac echogram, transthoracic cardiac stress echo, Holter monitor, blood pressure monitoring and autonomic testing.
In my case the injury resulted in dysautonomia with intermittent fevers and cardiovascular implications including breathlessness, inappropriate sinus tachycardia and blood pressure fluctuations.
These reactions were reported to the TGA at the time, but never followed up.
Yet you continued to promote “safe & effective” for 17 months and didn’t come out with your vaccine injury for that time while your fellow Australians succumbed to death and disease.
Within this group of vaccine injured individuals, there is a diminishing cohort of people who have symptoms following immunisation, many of which are similar to Long COVID (such as fatigue and brain fog), but who have not had a COVID infection. These people would be an important subset or control group for studies looking into the pathophysiology, causes of and treatments for Long COVID.
It is possible that there is at least some shared pathophysiology between vaccine injury and Long COVID, possibly due to the effects of spike protein.
So here, she says something true, that you cannot tell the difference between much of vaccine injury and much of long covid. They look the same. Do you know why they look the same Kerryn, because in the large majority of cases they ARE the same. Would you like to now go back to the beginning of your submission and make this point from the start and rewrite all the sections where you suggest, by omission, that they are NOT the same?
Vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about. Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that “might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout” or risk suspension or loss of their registration.
Kerryn, it sure sounds to me like you are contributing to vaccine hesitancy in this submission. When is your AHPRA hearing scheduled for? Can I attend? I would like to make a submission to the enquiry advocating for your deregistration.
Also, isn’t this exactly the type of fear and censorship that the AMA (your AMA) has created and pushed, towards doctors that contributed to childhood “vaccine hesitancy”?
Also, have you ever said anything about all the people, mostly young girls, injured by Gardasil, or is that a “public health” price worth paying for a “safe society”?
The burden of proof seems to have been placed on the vaccine injured rather than the neutral scientific position of placing suspicion on the vaccine in the absence of any other cause and the temporal correlation with the administration of the vaccine.
You put that same burden of proof on the families of vaccine injured children. It is THEY that had to prove causation for a medication that was never tested against a clean placebo. Did you ever learn that during your 40 years of experience?
Grandparents are having to make the heart-breaking decision to choose between protecting themselves from COVID infection and reinfection vs regular contact with their grandchildren.
Really Kerryn? The kids as granny killer line. After all that has happened, you still wheel out that troupe?
There is no State-wide or national approach to zero COVID transmission in hospitals and healthcare facilities, where medically vulnerable people should be able to feel safe.
Healthcare workers are burnt out and frustrated and face a higher risk of infection at work without a “zero COVID” approach.
This woman is a “government is the solution”, anti-personal responsibility, greater good collectivist and authoritarian, who has never passed a virtue signal without picking it up. She so perfectly represents the Australian “ruling class” that you cannot make her up, she is straight from the casting agency.
There is recent evidence that antiviral treatment early in the course of an infection may reduce the incidence of Long COVID. However, antiviral medications do not eliminate the risk in most people.
Access to affordable antiviral medication in Australia is very limited. Unless a patient fits the very strict criteria for a prescription under the Pharmaceutical benefits Scheme, they are required to pay over $1000 for a five day course.
Here she is pushing, I assume, the two main “anti-virals”, Paxlovid (causes rebound covid) and Remdesivir (causes organ failure), without once mentioning Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Quercetin let alone Ivermectin (off course not, at least she didn’t trot out (pardon the pun) the horse dewormer angle).
“Personal responsibility” has become a political cop-out and this failed strategy will lead to more and more cases of COVID19, reinfection and Long COVID.
This is the antithesis of the principle of public health, which is to ensure that community- wide actions are needed to protect the health of all people in the community in a way that respects the rights of individuals, for mutual benefit.
The public health strategies to achieve this are in the hands of Federal and State governments.
Government has the levers to help all people in the Australian community to live safer lives until there are better vaccines capable of preventing transmission, better treatments for SARS CoV2 infection and until Long COVID treatment protocols are developed.
Personal responsibility is a “failed strategy” to Kerryn.
More government with its “levers” is the solution.
Also, nowhere in her submission does she suggest that mass vaccination should be stopped. Death and injury, including hers and her wife’s injuries are a price to be paid apparently for the greater good of society’s public health.
An ideologue if there ever was one.
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Excellent post!
💥KARMA to the GP Snake with “40 years of experience” and her wife for not speaking out right away and pushing the poison on the population, especially children!
Ideologue doesn't go far enough. Covid/jab cultist fits. It's also a case of CYA so she can claim she spoke up when the legal shitstorm hits.