In my experience, I do have kids who are unvaxed, and still high intensity etc. I know I've made my share of mistakes in parentingthen, and gone through some tough times that made parenting ideally a challenge, which I know is a factor, but I also think there's a genetic component to their intensity. But I am so glad they didn't get jabbed, as they are almost certainly kids who would have had worse reactions based on their genetics etc!
Admitting that you made your share of mistakes is GREAT! Please be aware that smartphones & WiFi will cause issues as well and eating processed foods & not consuming WATER. Check out the website www.electricsense.com PLUS, if any of them are addicted to video games, be aware it is the same as being addicted to drugs. God Bless!
Really important points! My kids don't have any devices of their own and we limit screen time. They play videogames now and then, a day with a lot of screen time consists of the rare movie afternoon or 1.5 hrs max of video game time once they've done their schoolwork and been outside! Most days we don't even do screen time, apart from a couple duolingo lessons on my phone and the phone we use for audio books in the evening gets put on airplane mode and not close to kids. Diet is for sure a factor, and we could do better for sure. I know that when we visit others with more junk food
available I do notice a difference. But overall we try to eat a mostly whole food minimally processed diet, though we do eat more grains than ideal (trying to do sprouted as much as possible which also makes a difference) but most of that is budget, time and energy,
which I know are helped by a better diet, but can be a struggle to achieve in the meantime. We do eat far less than the average household, but have our weak spots for sure. Just doing our best. We have periodically babysat other kids whom my husband has referred to as "our kids if they ate junk and had more screen time" even in un-v'd kids, that makes a huge difference!
On another note, but along similar lines, I read the book "What your vet won't tell you about vaccine" and it discussed this vet's experience with calmer, less hyper puppies when they didn't get their puppy shots. I felt that was confirmed when I had two husky cross pups who were surprisingly calm despite the breeds in them being high energy. I find it interesting that there are some conversations being had around that, though not enough, and someone pointed out that a practicing vet sees more generations of dogs than human docs, so sometimes the differences in health and longevity can be seen more clearly. Still, there's so much self delusion, because they are invested and so seem to need to justify the whole thing overall.
What kids eat is also a serious contributor to behavioral issues. Food dyes, sugar and other carbs (obviously), and almost certainly other myriad components of processed foods. I can tell you this, for example: The few times when I have fasted for 2-3 days, I became interiorly CALM. Anxiety floated away. Time probably felt as though it was passing more slowly. Etc.
Same exact effect when I went on a diet of keto/carnivore. 2-3 days and I felt significantly more in control.
It would be legitimate to investigate the possibility (or probability) that the fasting or the eating only meat wasn't per se or primarily the cause of this beneficial mood improvement, but instead the fact that something I would have been eating otherwise stayed out of me. Sugar? Seed oils? So-called "natural flavorings"? MSG? Food dyes? ...
If we ourselves were vaxxed, we pass on the metals and toxins and DNA fragments to our babies, along with what we've taken in environmentally, and they then detox us through breastfeeding...so we must be detoxing them and ourselves all through our lives, and eating as organically as possible (and nothing remains uncontaminated. We are being sprayed with toxins like bugs.)
My god. This is one of the most interesting observations I've heard on this subject. ...
Is it that parents who question vaccination tend to raise their children differently, or is it truly at least partly the fact that the children's systems were not altered by injections?
I knew a two- or three-year old child who seemed different after a scheduled vaccination that had just happened. It could be my own imagination, but I remember at the time noting that he seemed different now -- before, he was bright and happy, and now he suddenly exhibited a troubledness, an interior frustration or anger, a disconnection from those around him.
It's a very, very sad thing to see this and -- if my observation was correct -- to realize that this incapacitation of mind has been happening to millions and millions of children.
"OMG, being unvaccinated has absolutely nothing to do with it."
Completely wrong! GO WATCH VAXXED II and SEE the families with kids whose 'first' kids got all or some vaxxx poisons, when the parents didn't know any better -- and their later kids who are 'clean'!
I cannot POSSIBLY be "better or worse parenting" because HOW can parenting create autoimmune diseases, or allergies, or a massive increase in cold and other childhood diseases -- or worse strabismus or newly uneven facial features in the VAXXED kids, but not the unvaxed?!
You mean like the "peer-reviewed" "science" that the Big Pharma companies PAID TO BE PUBLISHED?!(In the journals THEY own!?) You completely ignore the EXTREMELY well qualified doctors and medical researchers who, when they raised some questions were blocked and fired from their research jobs AT Pharma co's? How about the HIGHLY respected doctors who were hounded, fired, and even had their MEDICAL QUALs and Board certs taken?!
Oh what basis do you determine that the DOCTORS in VAXED II were not VERY highly respected and followed doctors UNTIL they spoke up?
Dr Paul Marick, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Pierre Kory, were all top of the mountain as docotrs -- UNTIL they spoke up about Pharma's LIES about the bioweapon! Paul Marick figured out the... ha: MARICK PROTOCOL it's now called that has been saving the lives of people with sepsis.! Sepsis has pretty much ALWAYS been fatal!
(And, if you DO read "hard, peer-reviewed" published papers... have you just REFUSED to read all the LATEST ones SHOWING the devastation cause by the vaxxx? Yeah, 'spected not.)
I knew a wealthy, middle-aged couple -- very intelligent and very successful in life -- who denied warnings about the Covid event and the mRNA "vax," dismissing all contrary allegations of fact with a statement to the effect of "No. Dr. Fauci is our trusted source of real information."
Now where is their doctor? Hidden away in some witness protection program to keep him from being served court papers? After having materially aided in scamming the world into harming themselves and their children with an injectable concoction claiming to prevent a "dangerous disease" on the order of the yearly flu.
Etc.
Refusing to look at contrary facts is not always a safe course of action, and it's never an intelligent one.
That statement assumes one side of a scientific issue that's in major dispute. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation, absolutely; but that doesn't mean that anywhere you see correlation, causation doesn't apply. Sometimes, correlation is indeed a result of causation.
Good parenting is paramount always. But if vaccination causes problems with a child's neurological self -- even if in observationally subtle ways -- then that can change the child's whole life, including his ability to connect with, understand, and interact rationally with parents and others, and it can also make it more difficult for the child to control himself. Some of this may come from something I've heard said, that the autistic child's brain can't sort and block out irrelevant sensations, leaving the child to sense/perceive too many things all at once, resulting in an internal inescapable chaos that no one outside him can see or understand.
One can be a great parent all day long, but if your child has been neurologically damaged by a vaccine or anything else, you're going to be dealing with things that neither of you had ever naturally been intended to deal with.
And this isn't just about *obvious* autism. Not all damage is obvious. Neurological problems can include effects that are barely noticeable but that still reduce a child's overall efficacy and happiness in life, creating difficulty learning or focusing, lowered emotional responsiveness, etc.
"Correlation does not necessarily imply causation"
I like to point out that absolutely correct: correlation does not prove causation...
However, when you've got a veritable MOUNTAIN of correlations -- that 100% should be a cue to do some controlled studies (not just observational; actual experimentation!).
Absolutely. And those real-life correlations should be enough for any parent to act on immediately, in advance of any "official" research by establishment science, science which is owned by big money and can be counted on to avoid authentic condemnation of the big boys who bankroll its operations.
Not just children but my adult daughter very different starting 4 years ago after 'Cvid' 'vaccine' ...I did nit realuse she had been i nected because I begged her not to but tge cha ge in her behavior is very noticeable and has made me her mother very ill with worry and I grieve the liss if my previously kind, funny, caring discerning daughter..Now she is somewhat narcisstic, uncaring and has cut me out of her life etc. She is my only child....She niw has lower impulse control it seems and loses her temper sometimes ( with me) for minor issues. When I protest she blames me etc Exhausting, upsetting. She had 2 'jabs' she later tokd me and one 'Booster' I also worry terribly about her life, health now. Some truthful doctors report the same ie Personality change in some eg Dr Breggin a camoaigning psychiatrist
Please go look up Dr Bryan Ardis. His book just came out, it's an easy clear read (with ALL his refs annotated and linked, Cindy). I followed him closely starting back in early 2021; except for a couple of months when his 'stuff' -- the info he'd dug up IN "hard science, peer-reviewed published papers" -- made me decide he'd gone nuts.
I want back a few months later to see what he was saying -- and holy hell! He had refs for every crazy/insane thing he had said! (And yeah, he does come across a bit smarmy... but his information is SOUND AS HELL!)
Neve, you may be able to find info that can help your daughter clear her system. If you have the money, as he can't get paid by insurance any more -- having been fired for telling the truth (and HIS book is also excellent!) -- Dr Pierre Kory is now helping vax injured through the Crow Nation (so the feds AND Big Pharma can't destroy his practice any further!) But there is also a whole 'second medical field' of docs, nurses, researchers, and folks who were hounded out -- or chose to GET out - of the "ortho-docs" medical field.
Go look into the Independent Medical Alliance https://imahealth.org/ -- thr new (well a year+ new) name for the Old FLCCC (Front Line Covid Critical Care alliance. They have many of their lectures and talks from the medical conferences -- some kinda deep-medical, if you haven't the background; some for 'normal' folks who don't. FANTASTIC conferences!
Yes, that is true about neurological damage. I’m very familiar with autism. The problem is when people take these true things about disorders and diseases and then attribute them to vaccines.
There is no evidence of vaccines causing autism, diabetes II, or neurological damage. Only anecdotes — what I’ve seen, heard, or read. That is not enough to create a universal theory.
Anecdotes are what lead people in some parts of the world to believe that disease is the result of voodoo or witchcraft or the evil eye. Others believe it’s the result of a person’s qi being blocked. And still others believe it’s due to bad things a person did in their previous life. All can back up their beliefs with anecdotes. So are they all correct? If not, how does one go about demonstrating that they are wrong?
Good science is based on evidence and medical theory is based on evidence from double-blind studies. Scores of these such studies have been conducted and the results have not indicated any evidence of vaccines causing autism or any of these other things.
> Good science is based on evidence and medical theory is based on evidence from double-blind studies. Scores of these such studies have been conducted and the results have not indicated any evidence of vaccines causing autism or any of these other things.
That is what they tell all of us. "If you didn't fund a study in one of our establishment labs, your evidence is irrelevant." This is not at all true. Interest-conflicted journals and institutions skew and lie in their own studies, lack of studies, and journals, and they do so with the cooperation of the media monopolies that they pay enormous sums to in advertising.
Real events should not be ignored. Here's the truth: Enormous numbers of parents have children who -- overnight, immediately after a vax -- are GONE. In my case, this happened to the friend of a close friend of mine. Overnight, the child was permanently disabled neurologically. Parents and child will never have the relationship or life that they had expected.
You don't have to defer to experts with massive financial and reputational conflicts of interest. The incidence of the event described above is high, and it IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE. Observation itself is the foundation of scientific truth. We're not obliged to throw out our own observations because they didn't happen to occur as part of a study. No one is obliged in any way to believe these reports are true, but those who experienced them do know the truth, and this truth is bolstered by the fact that this experience has been happening to I don't know how many thousands or hundreds of thousands.
This is part of what appears to be an awakening of the world to decades of protected lies.
You probably know of the existence of documentaries on this general subject. Documentaries which the public is encouraged to dismiss withojut viewing. For anyone interested in the other side of this debate, below are a few direct links, including to the famous documentary, Vaxxed, which was promoted earnestly by Robert DeNiro when it first came out, and which was quietly and without explanation removed from the film festival it had been part of before it could be seen.
Behind-the-scenes powers and pressures are a real thing, which include publicly trashing the reputation of any reputable doctor who participates in trying to help us all see what they've been covering up.
For anyone interested, here are three Substack notes. The first one contains a direct link to Vaxxed (and other presentations). COMPLETELY FREE TO WATCH.
I'm fairly confident that those who look will see. Eventually, I believe every human being is on the same side. It's just a matter of earnestly considering the other side.
Thanks for the links - I used to think all humans are on the same side like you say but I realise increasingly that some in power despise human beings eg often the richest on earth such as Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UK royals and more. Chicken and egg problem means its not possible to know whether centuries of being the richest and therefore most powerful have unhinged these types who want billions of people diseased & dead, or these types are a different species almost who never had compassion to begin with Centuries of looting and genocidng are how they get so rich & hence powerful ie lack of good human traits.
Neve: Yes, I agree on every point. I was definitely, in my mind, excluding the powers that be from "every human being."
But your chicken-and-egg question is interesting. The answer to that isn't obvious, though my suspicion is that they're eggs -- different inside from birth.
In either case, I'm now reminded of a relevant statement from a great 1940s noir film called "The Third Man," starring a very young Orson Welles. The whole movie is available here for free: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lwhqc
The key statement is made at 1:18:05 by the sinister character played by Orson Welles who's talking to a more honest and empathetic man inside the car of a ferris wheel way up in the air above London:
Looking down at the tiny people walking to a fro on the ground far below, the sinister gentleman says: "Tell me, would you really feel anything if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you 20,000 pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money?"
"There is no evidence of vaccines causing autism,"
Because you BELIEVE the suborned and lying big corporations" "Why, THEY would never lie!!" Take an hour -- go WATCH VAXXED II -- THEN you might be able to speak/write intelligently. So far, you're smugly insisting that you and the people you LIKE are the only ones who know anything!
How about asking WHY Pharma has NEVER done ACTUAL testing new vaccines against a TRUE placebo? Their "version" of a placebo-controlled test means they test the NEW "upgraded" version against the OLD version, or against some other ENTIRELY unrelated vaccine (still full of all the adjuvants and other stuff that can CAUSE INJURY!) They have -- and will NOT -- test their shit against SALINE solution!
Because then they cannot hand-wave away that "well, yes, the new version DOES cause a few MORE injuries -- but it's WELL within the standards based on the PREVIOUS (or wholly different) vaccines!" NEVER against saline! Why, do you suppose they won't DO that? and WHY do you think they are NOT hiding something? And WHY do they have complete legal immunity from ANY damage or death THEIR PRODUCTS cause?!
Oh and Cindy? About autism... Guess you just missed (in your careful reading) that when the actual test of (was it DTAP? Don't remember, watch VAXXED II and you'll get the whole story!) showed beyond doubt that "Yes, this is absolutely causing autism" -- Pharma REQUIRED the investigators to burn all their papers and reports. And then they destroyed -- and continue to harass -- the one doc who really raised hell; got driven from his field and out of doctoring entirely (like so many GOOD docs during the bioweapon). (Sorry, can't remember HIS name either -- but he's in the documentary too!)
He and one other doc (both British) in the investigation sued when they were stripped of their quals. The other doctor was senior and had the money to fight and regain his license. Wakeman? Wakefield? didn't and so he was fired and shut out. However -- another doctor (or maybe the one who sued and won) did NOT destroy his notes -- and he came out 20 YEARS later (how many children?) and provided the proof that autism is very much caused by vax!! And of course, Cindy, you've never SEEN that in your Pharma-approved "hard science" because YOU won't look!
Want peer-reviewed? Try the book "Turtles all the Way Down." Written BY docs. Or Pierre Kory's book "The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine that Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the Pandemic/"
"Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology, and Reality" by John Leake and Peter A. McCullough MD MPH. "Moving Beyond the COVID-19 Lies : Restoring Health & Hope for Humanity" by Bryan Ardis.
Bering proudly ignorant of what ELSE is going on in the world is just NOT a good look!
Fine. Let’s go with anecdotes, then, shall we? I have two nephews with severe autism. I have another close family member on the autism spectrum. I did afternoon childcare for two years for a family with an autistic child. None of these individuals or their parents will tell you that the autism developed after a childhood vaccination.
Doctors are not part of some great conspiracy to pull the wool over our eyes and get rich from big Pharma. Most of them went into medicine because they genuinely care & wanted to help.
Yes, big Pharma funds some research, but that is always made explicit in the articles I read in peer-reviewed medical journals. And they definitely do not have the ability to destroy research done by others. If they did try, it would be all over the media.
Yeah, that's all on how you parent and raise your kids. Vaccinated and unvaccinated folks still experience life and good and bad times. But I agree with Cindy... It's good parenting, or at least HOW you parent your child.
"Experience life and good and bad times": perhaps, often, yes. But that general a statement doesn't ask what *kind* of life they experience, and it doesn't ask *how* good and *how* bad their highs and lows are.
I'd expect that a healthy child raised with good parenting has a very different life from a neurologically damaged child with good parenting.
I quoted a piece of what you said so that it would be clearer exactly what part of your original comment I was commenting about. Also, sometimes threads get longer and it eventually becomes hard to tell which comment one is responding to in the first place. Quoting statements helps anchor replies together with the thing being replied to.
I'll try to restate my point here:
Your original comment suggested that there are no differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed kids because "both experience life, and both have ups and downs," and that it all just boils down to good parenting.
My point was that in many or maybe most cases there *ARE* differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed kids and that we can't dismiss those differences by equivocating, by merely saying that both groups "live and have ups and downs."
For example, we probably wouldn't say that chronically depressed people and happy people are no different from each other just because both "experience life and have ups and downs."
What is the experience of life had by each group? Is one better than the other? How high are the ups of each group, and how low are the lows of each group?
There's a difference between experiencing life as a neurologically damaged, dependent, and unhappy human being and experiencing life as a neurologically powerful, efficacious, and happy human being.
As a parent, I would want my kids to have all the healthy characteristics that nature intrisically provides, rather than that they be crippled by mood disorders and brain de-wiring caused by the injection of man-made chemicals sold to us by enormous corporations and their multi-million-(billion?)-dollar ad and PR campaigns with smiling band-aid advertisements, political legislation bought and paid for, etc.
And if your child is totally normal and aging as expected and then has a "well-baby visit with shots" -- and the next morning is a VEGETABLE... sure, that's parenting in a SENSE -- because the parents LET the doctor inject a Russian Roulette substance into their baby! But it's not THEIR fault!!
Exactly my point. Belief about what causes disease that is only based on anecdotes is opinion. Facts come from hard scientific research which, in the case of medical theory, means double-blind studies.
ANECDOTES are supposed to be pointers to DOING the experimentation to DISCOVER what is causing the anecdotes! Did you never learn about the scientific method?! If you SEE a pattern -- and it's a BAD one -- you NEED to investigate using science to SEE if the correlation is in fact all or part of causation!
Do you know that double-blind studies mean MORE than merely the "ortho-docs" in charge of the two (or more) 'wings' being studied need to NOT know what their wing is being given (active or placebo) -- and there are a multitude of confounding factors that must be discovered and balanced/planned for...
And IF you are running your tests with ... say ... TWO VACCINES and you find that the injury/death levels are approximately the same -- that one of the "hard science" requirements is that the two wings were NOT subjected to two of the approximately the SAME THING!? If, say, thimerosal causes injury in one vaccine.... but when you 'test' your new vaccine against a 'everything-in-it-is-the-same EXCEPT for not having the new bit ... then you are NOT testing (which has NEVER been done! Look it up!) your new vax AGAINST a placebo!
You're testing it against EVERY OTHER injurious component and handwaving away the "same injuries" in the fake (full of bad shit) 'original' version. You'd ONLY find a problem IF your new component is REALLY REALLY bad. Bad enough to rise ABOVE the "usual" injuries caused by the "not-a-placebo" and its bad shit.
And while I'm ON a tear... Let's consider the Hep B vaccine. It's one they inject into NEW BORN INFANTS in their first week, usually the first DAY! Because IF the mother HAS Hep B -- the baby can pick it up on the trip out the birth canal -- and it KILLS babies!
Here's two interesting problems. Hep B is passed almost exclusively in TWO ways:
One: intravenous drug users pass it via dirty needles; and
Two: it can be spread through unprotected sex.
(NEITHER is SUPPOSED to be a risk to a newborn, right?!) The third possible spread is at birth, from the mother. They used to test the mother, and if she HAD Hep B; they'd deliver the child by C-section. A single C-sect costs more than injecting many newborns -- but VERY RARELY needs to be done... so the money decision is inject EVERY infant!
Then HERE is problem three -- but they never tell you! The 'approximate life-span' OF the Hep B vax is: 12 years. (Yes Cindy -- hard science, peer-reviewed!) So, they are injecting a NEW BORN with a preventative for a disease that the child would only catch from injection with a dirty needle or of that child HAS SEX BEFORE AGE 12!!! TRY to find a decent justification for that?!
I have read a lot about how vaccines are ‘tested’ by pharma creators snd other ‘science’ that we grew up trusting & have discovered thst most science is (as the that good docu is called) ‘ a rich man's trick’ Milions of ways to lie using science on order to get the result the profit hungry/depopulators want. Shocking, evil but very common.
It's why I call MOST doctors "ortho-docs" -- because they ONLY learn what they are forced to learn -- and seem to NEVER LEARN MORE!
EVERY DAMNED DOCTOR KNEW that the best possible preventative against a virus was having HAD chicken pox, measles, mumps... PICK your childhood disease!! And then INSTANTLY -- they forgot it -- when govt/Pharma offered them bribes to do everything their way! And yes, some FEW children died of the childhood disease... USUALLY children in already fragile condition. But before you leap into tell us all about hard science and peer-reviewed numbers... the children injured and killed by vaxxes far FAR exceed the few who died form childhood diseases!
The fact about science lying is true, but it doesn't seem possible until one has witnessed it, and until a person suspects that there's something to see, he or she won't look. It's really sad. Meanwhile, so many lives incapacitated or destroyed.
The following post shows quotes from numerous people in the field of science/medicine ACTUALLY SAYING that fraud happens and is commonplace.
"Insiders Admit What Your Doctor Never Will: Modern Medicine Is a Fraud"
"It’s worse than you think."
"What follows is a compilation of damning admissions from some of the most authoritative figures in medical science—top editors of the world’s most influential medical journals: The Lancet, The New England Journal of Medicine, The BMJ, JAMA, and more.
"Short of study authors confessing outright fraud in their own work, these are the most credible admissions you’ll ever hear."
I went through the whole vaccination thing with my son when he was growing up. He got all the routine baby and child vaccinations on schedule as recommended. And guess what? He’s now 25 and has been sick exactly FIVE TIMES in HIS ENTIRE LIFE! 5X in 25 YEARS. I can even recount each time. Not many people can beat that!
He and I have gotten flu vaccinations every year for at least the last 12+ years. We’ve each only had the flu once during that time. (Before flu vaccinations became readily available, I would spend one week every winter in bed sick as a dog with the flu which usually turned into sinusitis and sometimes even pneumonia.) We’ve gotten every Covid vaccination: 5 for him & 7 for me. We’ve had Covid once – in August 2024. We’ve had every other vaccination as scheduled: TDAP for both, and RSV, 2 pneumonia, & 3 shingles vacs for me.
And guess what? After all those dozens of vaccinations, we’ve each received, we haven’t had the least bit of reaction or health problem from any of them. Pretty amazing, wouldn’t you say? Neither have my parents, any of my four siblings & their spouses, or 9 nephews & nieces, & 4 baby great-nieces & nephews ever had any problems from vaccinations they got. But I’m surely not going to use our experience to pronounce that vaccinations are perfectly safe based on the experience of the 26 members of my family!
I will use these anecdotes, however:
(1) my mom contracted polio when she was a child, when there was a polio epidemic in the US but no polio vaccination. Because of vaccinations, polio has been wiped out in the US and in much of the world.
(2) because of the anti-VAX movement, there has been an outbreak of measles in the US this year: almost 2000 cases to date, 12% of whom had to be hospitalized and 3 of whom died..21% of children under five who contracted measles have had to be hospitalized.
(3) None of my 3 family members on the autism spectrum nor the child in the home where I worked for two years developed it after a vaccination. None.
What I see underlying all the fear and concern about vaccinations here and elsewhere is that none of you folks are scientists or pediatricians, have family members who are scientists or pediatricians, and probably not even any friends who are scientists or pediatricians. And that’s a problem.
It is human nature to demonize something with which we are unfamiliar. It’s like racism: Blacks are delinquents, criminals, & dangerous . . . until you have friends who are Black. The same with believing Trump‘s lies about immigrants being rapists & murderers. Until you have friends who are immigrants. And the same with medical research. From afar, the unknown is a bogeyman. But once you become intimately involved, you realize that the fears and allegations are unfounded.
My husband is a scientist. We have dozens of friends who are scientists. A friend is on the faculty at one of the top 5 med schools in the US. All have Ph.D.’s. One of my brothers teaches pediatric infectious diseases at another med school. These are not stupid people. Anyone who thinks they’re smarter than them is a fool. They all do research in universities, free from corporate special interests. All have published in professional peer-reviewed scientific & medical journals. In addition, I have read dozens & dozens of medical articles from professional journals that are the same.
Yes, there are studies done by big Pharma, but they don’t get published in these professional journals and none of the people I know have ever received money from them for their research. Nor have any of the many professional articles I have read received any funding from any companies, let alone pharmaceutical companies. None. So while it does happen, it is nothing on the scale of what anti-VAXers claim. Not even close.
The real problem is not big Pharma funding medical research. The real problem is pressure on the FDA to approve treatments, medications, and vaccinations before they have completed the full length of rigorous testing. This pressure comes from patients who need it now and feel they can’t wait, their doctors, and, yes, from big Pharma who needs to keep their stockholders happy with a steady flow of profit. But that’s what happens in a capitalist economy.
So my plea to everyone is:
(1) to stop demonizing researchers when you’re neither a Ph.D. scientist nor a pediatrician in infectious disease diseases.
(2) to have a little humility and recognize that these people can run circles around the rest of us intellectually. Really.
(3) to think critically. Don’t believe what someone says just because the person has a degree after their name. It’s where they got their degree that matters. There’s a universe of difference between a degree from a correspondence program or backwater school and a degree from Harvard. Don’t just listen to attacks unless the person has a substantial alternative that is backed up by research.
Yes of course vaccines have been "studied" in excruciating and voluminous detail.
The omitted portion of this statement is that virtually every one of these studies has been rigged- the same is true for virtually every single vaccine trial in history.
In a time of short attention spans, there is power in distilling one's arguments down to a soundbite. Whenever a shill for Big Pharma falsely claims that quacksines have been thoroughly tested, we can point out that not a single one of those industry-funded clinical trials was tested against a saline placebo. Therefore those clinical trials are unscientific and misleading.
according to Gary Null , there has never been a gold standard vaccine trial done , meaning a randomized double-blind placebo controlled test, and yes those who question that fact come under fire , rather than the vax makers who fail to properly test, amazing that the "poisoning children for profit" scam is so easily hidden from the sheeple right in plain sight :-/ :-( :-/
Ruby, great point. I suppose the "danger of not vaccinating" was just too great to be "ethical." Frankly, I don't think that finding volunteers would've been hard. And anyway, gov/mil used to inject unsuspecting soldiers with syphilis, so how much can ethics play in their world anyway?
In pre-clinical studies, practically every animal died after the COVID injection. When this happens, the trial is NEVER progressed to testing on human volunteers. It is aborted for being too dangerous... Instead, millions of people, children and babies were coerced into taking the dangerous COVID injections. As a result, there have been millions of adverse side effects and innumerable deaths. This was totally predictable and avoidable.
In fact, there was no contagious pandemic. It was all "viral marketing" to bring about, amongst several other corporate goals, a highly lucrative "Decade of Vaccines" for Big Pharma...
Please read the book called The Hot Zone. concerning viruses and pandemics thru the centuries.
To dismiss a contagious illness like COVID 19 that spread rapidly and killed millions of people as “viral marketing” for vaccines ignores the facts of what occurred. Thats the darkest conspiracy theory I’ve heard YET.
Ask the healthcare people on the front lines whether it was viral marketing
I see whistleblowers, eg Pfizer ( Dr Yeadon etc) & other medics ( Vernon Coleman ex doctor).who insist no new illness happened during the 'pandemic'..They are correct that tge injections, severely harm and kill but wrong that ( Coleman).Covid and the sometimes severe symptoms for years since, are just an excuse not to go to work ; to claim state benefits. Millions of people per country have symptoms for years after - injected and non-injected, all ages.
My sister was on the NHS front line and she said there was no COVID emergency. In fact, the hospital was quieter than usual, due to lockdowns. She also pointed out that PCR tests cannot be used to diagnose symptomless illnesses. The inventor of the PCR test said it was an amplifying tool for scientific research NOT a diagnostic tool.
Look up U.S. legislation which euphemistically defines vaccines as counter-measures (to be taken against a public they find threatening). A more accurate term is "bioweapon".
Literally viral marketing. What you say about the Covid animal tests, if true, is just another massive outrage on top of a pyramid of outrages. Thanks for the tip.
Vaccines are based on the unproven Theory of Viruses. Anyone who doesn't know that by now is either too busy to inform themselves of this important fact or proactively spreading disinformation.
Agreed, Toni. It's unscientific to believe in viruses because the Koch postulates haven't been met. Also, they lump viruses in with bacteria and other micro-organisms as if they are living entities. However, "a single or double strand of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat" is NOT a living entity. It's just a fragment of cell debris.
Lived in Singapore when my daughter was a month old. Took her for her 'required US" vaccines at 6 weeks and the doc refused. Told me they can cure whooping cough but not autism. That was back in 1986. So, my kids had the MMR shots, separately a month apart, in the US. And not until the age of 3 as they were home, not in school or daycare.
They didn't get autism, but they sure had the rest... ear infections, mumps, measles, etc., when they did start school.
I'm still grateful for Dr. Lee warning me about the MMR and suggesting it later; and separately. I have so many friends dealing w/autism, ADHD, etc., with their children because they didn't know and had their kids vaccinated way too early.
That doc in the scrubs would be toast in my book! I'd leave his practice based on his bad medical advice!
Ideally he would have advised to not have any vaccines but his advice seems to have helped the child's health ie have the vax later. I had not known that earlier or later made a difference to the child's health although it seems logical.that an older child might have a stronger system to deal with vax poisons.
Yes. Although I strongly suspect that taking any vax, even at a later and less risky age, is still likely to compromise the victim's system in any of numerous possible ways that don't make themselves immediately or blatantly obvious.
i have 2 unvaccinated adult children that i raised to think for themselves and they both, out of pure fear and domination (28&30), chose to get the covid vaccines and also disgarded me out of their lives for a couple of years during this plandemic ... i am welcome back now and no discussion bout past ... and i am good with whatever they are choosing to do as i have surrendered completely. i know beyond knowing what is best for me and what is true. love loves no matter what AND i live freely as i am until my last breath in this illusory physical form. intuition is free and that IS me. love's will i am.
MD’s get paid handsomely for administering vaccines so of course this scrub wearing doc will get his panties in a bunch. This was 13yrs ago!!! WTF is going on and why aren’t more parents doing their research? I truly believe my nieces have been harmed by childhood schedule of vax’s. They’re now C19 shot and boosted. Fear has come into play years in the making.
Total risk of at least one chronic condition after the age of 18 in the vaccinated is now over 60%. TRUE total baseline risk for those who have never once been exposed to any vaccines and those who've also avoided the "vitamin" K shot, is 2.64%. Take your pick.
Thanks Joy. Would you be interested in doing a written interview with me? I have over 10,000 subscribers and they would be very interested in your work. If so, could you please email me: unbekoming@outlook.com
Joy has also said that for the 0.25% of the population that is lifetime non-jabbed, the cancer rate is zero! Childhood cancer is a modern phenomenon. But check with her on the numbers. Did you ever do the interview?
When my daughter born the nurse callously dangled her and injected her with vital K which I could not prevent. I have ne known why but will find out if I can.
The "dangled her" part too really pisses me off. I saw this treatment of a sick animal at the vet once and it made me sick. Still not over it years later. I think this kind of treatment of any vulnerable being is an indication either of psychopathy or malignant narcissism on the part of the so-called "caregiver."
I heard of a father who literally *guarded* his newborn daughter against hospital staff from the moment of her birth until their departure together from the hospital. I was highly impressed and inspired by this.
I know I'm coming late to the conversation, but I wonder what the actual statistics would be. The study itself said that it compared disease to the total population, which includes the very small percentage of unvaccinated people. I feel that this study would hold more weight if there were a way to separate the populations. I'm not saying the study wouldn't get the same results, I'm just saying that it would be more accurate, and therefore easier for me to believe. I also wonder if there is possibly another reason why the invaccinated are healthier. The study just attributes the difference in statistics to vaccines, but there are so many more aspects to health such as diet, exercise, pollution in densely populated areas, etc.
There can be correlation without causation as well. Shark attacks correlate with ice cream sales. Does that mean we are causing more shark attacks to occur when we buy ice cream, or is there another factor, such as warm weather, that is actually causing more people to go swimming, increasing the risk of shark attacks? Again, I'm not saying the study is wrong, but the way they came to their conclusions is not by using a sound scientific method, so it doesn't help me believe the statistics. I am open to changing my mind with more evidence, however.
Kristina, the man who is still commonly referred to as the "father of modern epidemiology" John Snow, saved the UK from cholera simply by measuring outcomes between those who drank from certain (suspect) cisterns, and those who did not. By eliminating the suspected cause (cleaning up the suspect cisterns) he definitively proved the cause. This IS a "sound scientific method" of locating cause.
The Control Group study proved that there is only a 1 in 3 times the number of ATOMS estimated to exist in the entire universe that vaccines are NOT the actual cause of well over 90% of the chronic (deadly and disabling) diseases suffered by Americans of all ages. Now, you're free to take as many jabs as you like while saying "But there's still a chance (vaccines are innocent)" - but these odds are basically a finding that it's mathematically impossible vaccines are not the primary cause of these (immune mediated) diseases and disorders.
If you're going to claim it's not "scientific" (to use the gold standard method for toxicology) then do identify what elements contained therein are not scientific, and by exactly what logic you do not believe they're "scientific."
If you're 'open' perhaps you should actually READ the study itself, and perhaps you should do this BEFORE making incorrect claims about it.
It was meant to be an unmitigated disaster. That's the whole point of quacksines. They are slow-kill bioweapons, marketed as life-saving drugs. It's a total inversion of the truth, as practiced by pathological liars.
Pathological liars never respect anyone who is gullible enough to fall for their lies. Instead, they consider themselves to be superior to their victims and therefore they think they have the right to continue with their psychological abuse. It's totally warped, of course.
Its ALLdepopulation the whole system is partof the genocide for hundreds of years. Look oil billionaire Rockefeller who destroyed natural medicine a century ago - even murdering practitioners of free safe often herbal remedies. He created modern medicine to use his petroleum based products which are toxic. He created the medical schools and pharmacies to make profits of trillions for himself but also he wanted to depopulate & has done by many methods ongoing. Bill Gates's father a Rockerfeller lawyer and vv keen eugenicist with Gate's mother.& used Planned Parenthood' to speed up depopulation..ongoing. Gates has injected billions of peope for decades in Africa, India, the world and the injections found to contain anti fertility chemicals and other poisons. Many of the richest on earth are depopulating Rothschilds & others.
It was evident when he knew his ignorance had been exposed because he suddenly affected a conspicuous and overly emotional tone — totally departing from any forensic discussion of the facts, and opting instead for emotional appeals. “I feel so attacked!” “All we want is what’s best for the children!” “You’ve attacked me personally, and my colleagues!”
If he thinks that we, the audience, feel sympathy for his being “attacked” (which I don’t think he was), he’s wrong.
Nowadays, showing someone that they are in error with hard evidence is tantamount to an “attack.” And this doc clearly is not accustomed to being challenged, and is dangerous because he is not teachable. His ego is the obstacle here. He is so cocksure of being right while being so deceived and misinformed. He’s the perfect Pharma operative.
That's funny. That's exactly how the TV doctors reacted in an episode of some show called "The Doctors" when a blonde celebrity guest -- Jenna McCarthy? -- asserted that vaccines cause autism/damage in front of their television audience. The stooge doctors were getting their asses handed to them by her and her compatriot in the audience, and they quickly resorted to defensive anger about "being attacked."
Indeed, I've been thinking about that recently. Alot is said about health comparisons between the two groups, but what about IQ comparisons and even more importantly I think, personality profile comparisons. I have no doubt that this chemical stew impacts the big 5 traits such as neuroticism, openness, agreeableness etc.
My son and his wife were about to have their first and I told them not to vax. Now they have three brilliant, healthy totally unvaxxed [and organically fed] kids, and we're all beyond glad for that decision.
Ashamed to say I allowed my son to have some of the vaccines, all the ones they give up to about 9 months I think, and nowhere near as many as they want to do even in the UK. I can't turn back time and dearly wish I had known this information before he was born, he would be with the unvaccinated for sure. I thank Andrew Wakefield as without his voice I would not have stopped, I did not know any better. One thing I know is if I have grandchildren they will never be vaccinated. That said, even though he has had some injections my son is ridiculously healthy, bright, strong and emotionally sound, and for that I am so grateful. Maybe I caught myself from harming him just in time.
My five kids have never received any of the shots and all are very healthy. When they do get sick, they recover beautifully. They had one of the strains of whooping cough that is not vaccinated for and came through it smoothly (I used Dr Suzanne Humphreys vit C protocol) and now have natural immunity for, I think it’s around 30 years? Only two out of my five kids ever had an ear infection and had antibiotics. Food, herbs, essential oils, sleep, vitamin C, sunlight and water have been the best medicines. And let’s not forget love too. Thank you for writing this post.
The ear infection thing is so interesting. I too have 5 unvaccimated kids and literally never have any had an ear infection. We all go swimming in pools and Galveston (dirty Gulf water lol). It's not for lack of trying! Ear infections seem like a major bugbear for some kids, especially my fully vaccinated niblings.
Dr Paul Thomas (& J. Lyons Weiler) in his study of 561 non-jabbed vs jabbed at his pediatric practice in Oregon also noticed that ear pain was much less in the non-jabbed. ADHD and allergies also much lower. But it's probably not an ear "infection". Dr Sam Bailey may have covered what's really going on in one of her videos I am guessing. More likely a poisoning by the vax followed by an opportunistic bacterial infestation which makes it seem like a bacterium was the cause. Galveston is famous for some rigorous disease detective work many decades ago - I think that's described in "Can You Catch A Cold?" which is a well written easy to read book on disease. Just published
The young, whiny, poor victim of a doctor is an embarrassment to the profession. He knows that he has been caught in his own ignorance, and attempts to cover it by talking more so that others don’t get a chance to speak.
Makes me wonder about the LeRoy High School teenage girls (and one boy) 2011-2012 story…just watch a documentary about this small town epidemic of “Tourette’s”. Makes me think it was induced by the HPV vaccines. Interesting how vaccines were not mentioned as a possible cause.
I'm days backed-up on Substacks, lol! I hope the doc in the blue scrubs looks back on that show, and his words, and now has a definitive answer. He wants to look at vaccines, he WANTS to have this debate. Well, that show right there, that episode, wouldn't even be allowed to air now. And that fact is the evidence he really needs, if he has any critical thinking left in his brainwashed mind. Which I sadly doubt.
Its money - many or most medics we now know, will kill healthy people for money..Even if they dont get the money it seems but the hospital they work in does
You know what I notice in the Vaxxed 2 documentary, with all those un-vaxxed kids?
They're CALM.
They're not interrupting. They're not whining. They're not touching things. They're not fidgeting, or jumping up and down.
They've all been either exceptionally well-parented, and well-raised.
Or the neurological dysfunction that characterizes an overly-vaccinated child is completely absent.
Yes, exactly!!
In my experience, I do have kids who are unvaxed, and still high intensity etc. I know I've made my share of mistakes in parentingthen, and gone through some tough times that made parenting ideally a challenge, which I know is a factor, but I also think there's a genetic component to their intensity. But I am so glad they didn't get jabbed, as they are almost certainly kids who would have had worse reactions based on their genetics etc!
Admitting that you made your share of mistakes is GREAT! Please be aware that smartphones & WiFi will cause issues as well and eating processed foods & not consuming WATER. Check out the website www.electricsense.com PLUS, if any of them are addicted to video games, be aware it is the same as being addicted to drugs. God Bless!
Really important points! My kids don't have any devices of their own and we limit screen time. They play videogames now and then, a day with a lot of screen time consists of the rare movie afternoon or 1.5 hrs max of video game time once they've done their schoolwork and been outside! Most days we don't even do screen time, apart from a couple duolingo lessons on my phone and the phone we use for audio books in the evening gets put on airplane mode and not close to kids. Diet is for sure a factor, and we could do better for sure. I know that when we visit others with more junk food
available I do notice a difference. But overall we try to eat a mostly whole food minimally processed diet, though we do eat more grains than ideal (trying to do sprouted as much as possible which also makes a difference) but most of that is budget, time and energy,
which I know are helped by a better diet, but can be a struggle to achieve in the meantime. We do eat far less than the average household, but have our weak spots for sure. Just doing our best. We have periodically babysat other kids whom my husband has referred to as "our kids if they ate junk and had more screen time" even in un-v'd kids, that makes a huge difference!
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.
On another note, but along similar lines, I read the book "What your vet won't tell you about vaccine" and it discussed this vet's experience with calmer, less hyper puppies when they didn't get their puppy shots. I felt that was confirmed when I had two husky cross pups who were surprisingly calm despite the breeds in them being high energy. I find it interesting that there are some conversations being had around that, though not enough, and someone pointed out that a practicing vet sees more generations of dogs than human docs, so sometimes the differences in health and longevity can be seen more clearly. Still, there's so much self delusion, because they are invested and so seem to need to justify the whole thing overall.
And dogs that are sicker earlier in their life span. I can honestly say - my eyes are fully opened to the Truth
Wow. I shouldn't be surprised. Great comment. I'll share this observation around.
FOOD‼️Process food, full of indigestible chemicals, fluoride in the drinking and bath water,grains, sugar
What kids eat is also a serious contributor to behavioral issues. Food dyes, sugar and other carbs (obviously), and almost certainly other myriad components of processed foods. I can tell you this, for example: The few times when I have fasted for 2-3 days, I became interiorly CALM. Anxiety floated away. Time probably felt as though it was passing more slowly. Etc.
Same exact effect when I went on a diet of keto/carnivore. 2-3 days and I felt significantly more in control.
It would be legitimate to investigate the possibility (or probability) that the fasting or the eating only meat wasn't per se or primarily the cause of this beneficial mood improvement, but instead the fact that something I would have been eating otherwise stayed out of me. Sugar? Seed oils? So-called "natural flavorings"? MSG? Food dyes? ...
If we ourselves were vaxxed, we pass on the metals and toxins and DNA fragments to our babies, along with what we've taken in environmentally, and they then detox us through breastfeeding...so we must be detoxing them and ourselves all through our lives, and eating as organically as possible (and nothing remains uncontaminated. We are being sprayed with toxins like bugs.)
Thank-you.
My god. This is one of the most interesting observations I've heard on this subject. ...
Is it that parents who question vaccination tend to raise their children differently, or is it truly at least partly the fact that the children's systems were not altered by injections?
I knew a two- or three-year old child who seemed different after a scheduled vaccination that had just happened. It could be my own imagination, but I remember at the time noting that he seemed different now -- before, he was bright and happy, and now he suddenly exhibited a troubledness, an interior frustration or anger, a disconnection from those around him.
It's a very, very sad thing to see this and -- if my observation was correct -- to realize that this incapacitation of mind has been happening to millions and millions of children.
OMG, being unvaccinated has absolutely nothing to do with it. Correlation does not mean causation. It is good parenting.
"OMG, being unvaccinated has absolutely nothing to do with it."
Completely wrong! GO WATCH VAXXED II and SEE the families with kids whose 'first' kids got all or some vaxxx poisons, when the parents didn't know any better -- and their later kids who are 'clean'!
I cannot POSSIBLY be "better or worse parenting" because HOW can parenting create autoimmune diseases, or allergies, or a massive increase in cold and other childhood diseases -- or worse strabismus or newly uneven facial features in the VAXXED kids, but not the unvaxed?!
I’m sorry you feel that way. I’m afraid I won’t watch the film. I only pay attention to hard, peer-reviewed science.
You mean like the "peer-reviewed" "science" that the Big Pharma companies PAID TO BE PUBLISHED?!(In the journals THEY own!?) You completely ignore the EXTREMELY well qualified doctors and medical researchers who, when they raised some questions were blocked and fired from their research jobs AT Pharma co's? How about the HIGHLY respected doctors who were hounded, fired, and even had their MEDICAL QUALs and Board certs taken?!
Oh what basis do you determine that the DOCTORS in VAXED II were not VERY highly respected and followed doctors UNTIL they spoke up?
Dr Paul Marick, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Pierre Kory, were all top of the mountain as docotrs -- UNTIL they spoke up about Pharma's LIES about the bioweapon! Paul Marick figured out the... ha: MARICK PROTOCOL it's now called that has been saving the lives of people with sepsis.! Sepsis has pretty much ALWAYS been fatal!
(And, if you DO read "hard, peer-reviewed" published papers... have you just REFUSED to read all the LATEST ones SHOWING the devastation cause by the vaxxx? Yeah, 'spected not.)
Avalanche. Yes.
I knew a wealthy, middle-aged couple -- very intelligent and very successful in life -- who denied warnings about the Covid event and the mRNA "vax," dismissing all contrary allegations of fact with a statement to the effect of "No. Dr. Fauci is our trusted source of real information."
Now where is their doctor? Hidden away in some witness protection program to keep him from being served court papers? After having materially aided in scamming the world into harming themselves and their children with an injectable concoction claiming to prevent a "dangerous disease" on the order of the yearly flu.
Etc.
Refusing to look at contrary facts is not always a safe course of action, and it's never an intelligent one.
Are you ignorant to the evidences layed in front of you?
Nope. I only pay attention to evidence LAID out before me, not antidotes. 😉
ANECDOTES.
That statement assumes one side of a scientific issue that's in major dispute. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation, absolutely; but that doesn't mean that anywhere you see correlation, causation doesn't apply. Sometimes, correlation is indeed a result of causation.
Good parenting is paramount always. But if vaccination causes problems with a child's neurological self -- even if in observationally subtle ways -- then that can change the child's whole life, including his ability to connect with, understand, and interact rationally with parents and others, and it can also make it more difficult for the child to control himself. Some of this may come from something I've heard said, that the autistic child's brain can't sort and block out irrelevant sensations, leaving the child to sense/perceive too many things all at once, resulting in an internal inescapable chaos that no one outside him can see or understand.
One can be a great parent all day long, but if your child has been neurologically damaged by a vaccine or anything else, you're going to be dealing with things that neither of you had ever naturally been intended to deal with.
And this isn't just about *obvious* autism. Not all damage is obvious. Neurological problems can include effects that are barely noticeable but that still reduce a child's overall efficacy and happiness in life, creating difficulty learning or focusing, lowered emotional responsiveness, etc.
"Correlation does not necessarily imply causation"
I like to point out that absolutely correct: correlation does not prove causation...
However, when you've got a veritable MOUNTAIN of correlations -- that 100% should be a cue to do some controlled studies (not just observational; actual experimentation!).
Absolutely. And those real-life correlations should be enough for any parent to act on immediately, in advance of any "official" research by establishment science, science which is owned by big money and can be counted on to avoid authentic condemnation of the big boys who bankroll its operations.
Not just children but my adult daughter very different starting 4 years ago after 'Cvid' 'vaccine' ...I did nit realuse she had been i nected because I begged her not to but tge cha ge in her behavior is very noticeable and has made me her mother very ill with worry and I grieve the liss if my previously kind, funny, caring discerning daughter..Now she is somewhat narcisstic, uncaring and has cut me out of her life etc. She is my only child....She niw has lower impulse control it seems and loses her temper sometimes ( with me) for minor issues. When I protest she blames me etc Exhausting, upsetting. She had 2 'jabs' she later tokd me and one 'Booster' I also worry terribly about her life, health now. Some truthful doctors report the same ie Personality change in some eg Dr Breggin a camoaigning psychiatrist
Please go look up Dr Bryan Ardis. His book just came out, it's an easy clear read (with ALL his refs annotated and linked, Cindy). I followed him closely starting back in early 2021; except for a couple of months when his 'stuff' -- the info he'd dug up IN "hard science, peer-reviewed published papers" -- made me decide he'd gone nuts.
I want back a few months later to see what he was saying -- and holy hell! He had refs for every crazy/insane thing he had said! (And yeah, he does come across a bit smarmy... but his information is SOUND AS HELL!)
Neve, you may be able to find info that can help your daughter clear her system. If you have the money, as he can't get paid by insurance any more -- having been fired for telling the truth (and HIS book is also excellent!) -- Dr Pierre Kory is now helping vax injured through the Crow Nation (so the feds AND Big Pharma can't destroy his practice any further!) But there is also a whole 'second medical field' of docs, nurses, researchers, and folks who were hounded out -- or chose to GET out - of the "ortho-docs" medical field.
Go look into the Independent Medical Alliance https://imahealth.org/ -- thr new (well a year+ new) name for the Old FLCCC (Front Line Covid Critical Care alliance. They have many of their lectures and talks from the medical conferences -- some kinda deep-medical, if you haven't the background; some for 'normal' folks who don't. FANTASTIC conferences!
I'm sorry to hear this.
Yes, that is true about neurological damage. I’m very familiar with autism. The problem is when people take these true things about disorders and diseases and then attribute them to vaccines.
There is no evidence of vaccines causing autism, diabetes II, or neurological damage. Only anecdotes — what I’ve seen, heard, or read. That is not enough to create a universal theory.
Anecdotes are what lead people in some parts of the world to believe that disease is the result of voodoo or witchcraft or the evil eye. Others believe it’s the result of a person’s qi being blocked. And still others believe it’s due to bad things a person did in their previous life. All can back up their beliefs with anecdotes. So are they all correct? If not, how does one go about demonstrating that they are wrong?
Good science is based on evidence and medical theory is based on evidence from double-blind studies. Scores of these such studies have been conducted and the results have not indicated any evidence of vaccines causing autism or any of these other things.
> Good science is based on evidence and medical theory is based on evidence from double-blind studies. Scores of these such studies have been conducted and the results have not indicated any evidence of vaccines causing autism or any of these other things.
That is what they tell all of us. "If you didn't fund a study in one of our establishment labs, your evidence is irrelevant." This is not at all true. Interest-conflicted journals and institutions skew and lie in their own studies, lack of studies, and journals, and they do so with the cooperation of the media monopolies that they pay enormous sums to in advertising.
Real events should not be ignored. Here's the truth: Enormous numbers of parents have children who -- overnight, immediately after a vax -- are GONE. In my case, this happened to the friend of a close friend of mine. Overnight, the child was permanently disabled neurologically. Parents and child will never have the relationship or life that they had expected.
You don't have to defer to experts with massive financial and reputational conflicts of interest. The incidence of the event described above is high, and it IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE. Observation itself is the foundation of scientific truth. We're not obliged to throw out our own observations because they didn't happen to occur as part of a study. No one is obliged in any way to believe these reports are true, but those who experienced them do know the truth, and this truth is bolstered by the fact that this experience has been happening to I don't know how many thousands or hundreds of thousands.
This is part of what appears to be an awakening of the world to decades of protected lies.
You probably know of the existence of documentaries on this general subject. Documentaries which the public is encouraged to dismiss withojut viewing. For anyone interested in the other side of this debate, below are a few direct links, including to the famous documentary, Vaxxed, which was promoted earnestly by Robert DeNiro when it first came out, and which was quietly and without explanation removed from the film festival it had been part of before it could be seen.
Behind-the-scenes powers and pressures are a real thing, which include publicly trashing the reputation of any reputable doctor who participates in trying to help us all see what they've been covering up.
For anyone interested, here are three Substack notes. The first one contains a direct link to Vaxxed (and other presentations). COMPLETELY FREE TO WATCH.
VAXXED, et al.:
https://substack.com/@cmcardinale/note/c-99522363
IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY MORE THAN JUST AUTISM:
https://substack.com/@cmcardinale/note/c-110086949
STORIES RELATED:
https://substack.com/@lastcall1/note/c-136948641
I'm fairly confident that those who look will see. Eventually, I believe every human being is on the same side. It's just a matter of earnestly considering the other side.
Thanks for the links - I used to think all humans are on the same side like you say but I realise increasingly that some in power despise human beings eg often the richest on earth such as Rothschilds, Rockefellers, UK royals and more. Chicken and egg problem means its not possible to know whether centuries of being the richest and therefore most powerful have unhinged these types who want billions of people diseased & dead, or these types are a different species almost who never had compassion to begin with Centuries of looting and genocidng are how they get so rich & hence powerful ie lack of good human traits.
Neve: Yes, I agree on every point. I was definitely, in my mind, excluding the powers that be from "every human being."
But your chicken-and-egg question is interesting. The answer to that isn't obvious, though my suspicion is that they're eggs -- different inside from birth.
In either case, I'm now reminded of a relevant statement from a great 1940s noir film called "The Third Man," starring a very young Orson Welles. The whole movie is available here for free: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lwhqc
The key statement is made at 1:18:05 by the sinister character played by Orson Welles who's talking to a more honest and empathetic man inside the car of a ferris wheel way up in the air above London:
Looking down at the tiny people walking to a fro on the ground far below, the sinister gentleman says: "Tell me, would you really feel anything if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you 20,000 pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money?"
"There is no evidence of vaccines causing autism,"
Because you BELIEVE the suborned and lying big corporations" "Why, THEY would never lie!!" Take an hour -- go WATCH VAXXED II -- THEN you might be able to speak/write intelligently. So far, you're smugly insisting that you and the people you LIKE are the only ones who know anything!
How about asking WHY Pharma has NEVER done ACTUAL testing new vaccines against a TRUE placebo? Their "version" of a placebo-controlled test means they test the NEW "upgraded" version against the OLD version, or against some other ENTIRELY unrelated vaccine (still full of all the adjuvants and other stuff that can CAUSE INJURY!) They have -- and will NOT -- test their shit against SALINE solution!
Because then they cannot hand-wave away that "well, yes, the new version DOES cause a few MORE injuries -- but it's WELL within the standards based on the PREVIOUS (or wholly different) vaccines!" NEVER against saline! Why, do you suppose they won't DO that? and WHY do you think they are NOT hiding something? And WHY do they have complete legal immunity from ANY damage or death THEIR PRODUCTS cause?!
Oh and Cindy? About autism... Guess you just missed (in your careful reading) that when the actual test of (was it DTAP? Don't remember, watch VAXXED II and you'll get the whole story!) showed beyond doubt that "Yes, this is absolutely causing autism" -- Pharma REQUIRED the investigators to burn all their papers and reports. And then they destroyed -- and continue to harass -- the one doc who really raised hell; got driven from his field and out of doctoring entirely (like so many GOOD docs during the bioweapon). (Sorry, can't remember HIS name either -- but he's in the documentary too!)
He and one other doc (both British) in the investigation sued when they were stripped of their quals. The other doctor was senior and had the money to fight and regain his license. Wakeman? Wakefield? didn't and so he was fired and shut out. However -- another doctor (or maybe the one who sued and won) did NOT destroy his notes -- and he came out 20 YEARS later (how many children?) and provided the proof that autism is very much caused by vax!! And of course, Cindy, you've never SEEN that in your Pharma-approved "hard science" because YOU won't look!
Want peer-reviewed? Try the book "Turtles all the Way Down." Written BY docs. Or Pierre Kory's book "The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine that Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the Pandemic/"
"Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology, and Reality" by John Leake and Peter A. McCullough MD MPH. "Moving Beyond the COVID-19 Lies : Restoring Health & Hope for Humanity" by Bryan Ardis.
Bering proudly ignorant of what ELSE is going on in the world is just NOT a good look!
Fine. Let’s go with anecdotes, then, shall we? I have two nephews with severe autism. I have another close family member on the autism spectrum. I did afternoon childcare for two years for a family with an autistic child. None of these individuals or their parents will tell you that the autism developed after a childhood vaccination.
Doctors are not part of some great conspiracy to pull the wool over our eyes and get rich from big Pharma. Most of them went into medicine because they genuinely care & wanted to help.
Yes, big Pharma funds some research, but that is always made explicit in the articles I read in peer-reviewed medical journals. And they definitely do not have the ability to destroy research done by others. If they did try, it would be all over the media.
Yeah, that's all on how you parent and raise your kids. Vaccinated and unvaccinated folks still experience life and good and bad times. But I agree with Cindy... It's good parenting, or at least HOW you parent your child.
"Experience life and good and bad times": perhaps, often, yes. But that general a statement doesn't ask what *kind* of life they experience, and it doesn't ask *how* good and *how* bad their highs and lows are.
I'd expect that a healthy child raised with good parenting has a very different life from a neurologically damaged child with good parenting.
Ok... And your point is?
Ngl I appreciate the response but you lost me after quoting a piece of what I said 😅😅😅
Just dumb it down for a sista please. Thanks. 🥰🥰🥰
I quoted a piece of what you said so that it would be clearer exactly what part of your original comment I was commenting about. Also, sometimes threads get longer and it eventually becomes hard to tell which comment one is responding to in the first place. Quoting statements helps anchor replies together with the thing being replied to.
I'll try to restate my point here:
Your original comment suggested that there are no differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed kids because "both experience life, and both have ups and downs," and that it all just boils down to good parenting.
My point was that in many or maybe most cases there *ARE* differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed kids and that we can't dismiss those differences by equivocating, by merely saying that both groups "live and have ups and downs."
For example, we probably wouldn't say that chronically depressed people and happy people are no different from each other just because both "experience life and have ups and downs."
What is the experience of life had by each group? Is one better than the other? How high are the ups of each group, and how low are the lows of each group?
There's a difference between experiencing life as a neurologically damaged, dependent, and unhappy human being and experiencing life as a neurologically powerful, efficacious, and happy human being.
As a parent, I would want my kids to have all the healthy characteristics that nature intrisically provides, rather than that they be crippled by mood disorders and brain de-wiring caused by the injection of man-made chemicals sold to us by enormous corporations and their multi-million-(billion?)-dollar ad and PR campaigns with smiling band-aid advertisements, political legislation bought and paid for, etc.
I'm not sure if this will be more clear or less.
And if your child is totally normal and aging as expected and then has a "well-baby visit with shots" -- and the next morning is a VEGETABLE... sure, that's parenting in a SENSE -- because the parents LET the doctor inject a Russian Roulette substance into their baby! But it's not THEIR fault!!
OMG Your opinion is not the same as fact
Exactly my point. Belief about what causes disease that is only based on anecdotes is opinion. Facts come from hard scientific research which, in the case of medical theory, means double-blind studies.
ANECDOTES are supposed to be pointers to DOING the experimentation to DISCOVER what is causing the anecdotes! Did you never learn about the scientific method?! If you SEE a pattern -- and it's a BAD one -- you NEED to investigate using science to SEE if the correlation is in fact all or part of causation!
Do you know that double-blind studies mean MORE than merely the "ortho-docs" in charge of the two (or more) 'wings' being studied need to NOT know what their wing is being given (active or placebo) -- and there are a multitude of confounding factors that must be discovered and balanced/planned for...
And IF you are running your tests with ... say ... TWO VACCINES and you find that the injury/death levels are approximately the same -- that one of the "hard science" requirements is that the two wings were NOT subjected to two of the approximately the SAME THING!? If, say, thimerosal causes injury in one vaccine.... but when you 'test' your new vaccine against a 'everything-in-it-is-the-same EXCEPT for not having the new bit ... then you are NOT testing (which has NEVER been done! Look it up!) your new vax AGAINST a placebo!
You're testing it against EVERY OTHER injurious component and handwaving away the "same injuries" in the fake (full of bad shit) 'original' version. You'd ONLY find a problem IF your new component is REALLY REALLY bad. Bad enough to rise ABOVE the "usual" injuries caused by the "not-a-placebo" and its bad shit.
And while I'm ON a tear... Let's consider the Hep B vaccine. It's one they inject into NEW BORN INFANTS in their first week, usually the first DAY! Because IF the mother HAS Hep B -- the baby can pick it up on the trip out the birth canal -- and it KILLS babies!
Here's two interesting problems. Hep B is passed almost exclusively in TWO ways:
One: intravenous drug users pass it via dirty needles; and
Two: it can be spread through unprotected sex.
(NEITHER is SUPPOSED to be a risk to a newborn, right?!) The third possible spread is at birth, from the mother. They used to test the mother, and if she HAD Hep B; they'd deliver the child by C-section. A single C-sect costs more than injecting many newborns -- but VERY RARELY needs to be done... so the money decision is inject EVERY infant!
Then HERE is problem three -- but they never tell you! The 'approximate life-span' OF the Hep B vax is: 12 years. (Yes Cindy -- hard science, peer-reviewed!) So, they are injecting a NEW BORN with a preventative for a disease that the child would only catch from injection with a dirty needle or of that child HAS SEX BEFORE AGE 12!!! TRY to find a decent justification for that?!
I have read a lot about how vaccines are ‘tested’ by pharma creators snd other ‘science’ that we grew up trusting & have discovered thst most science is (as the that good docu is called) ‘ a rich man's trick’ Milions of ways to lie using science on order to get the result the profit hungry/depopulators want. Shocking, evil but very common.
It's why I call MOST doctors "ortho-docs" -- because they ONLY learn what they are forced to learn -- and seem to NEVER LEARN MORE!
EVERY DAMNED DOCTOR KNEW that the best possible preventative against a virus was having HAD chicken pox, measles, mumps... PICK your childhood disease!! And then INSTANTLY -- they forgot it -- when govt/Pharma offered them bribes to do everything their way! And yes, some FEW children died of the childhood disease... USUALLY children in already fragile condition. But before you leap into tell us all about hard science and peer-reviewed numbers... the children injured and killed by vaxxes far FAR exceed the few who died form childhood diseases!
The fact about science lying is true, but it doesn't seem possible until one has witnessed it, and until a person suspects that there's something to see, he or she won't look. It's really sad. Meanwhile, so many lives incapacitated or destroyed.
The following post shows quotes from numerous people in the field of science/medicine ACTUALLY SAYING that fraud happens and is commonplace.
https://drwojakmd.substack.com/p/insiders-admit-modern-medicine-is-a-fraud
"Insiders Admit What Your Doctor Never Will: Modern Medicine Is a Fraud"
"It’s worse than you think."
"What follows is a compilation of damning admissions from some of the most authoritative figures in medical science—top editors of the world’s most influential medical journals: The Lancet, The New England Journal of Medicine, The BMJ, JAMA, and more.
"Short of study authors confessing outright fraud in their own work, these are the most credible admissions you’ll ever hear."
WOW, if you have children or are planning on it, God help them!
I went through the whole vaccination thing with my son when he was growing up. He got all the routine baby and child vaccinations on schedule as recommended. And guess what? He’s now 25 and has been sick exactly FIVE TIMES in HIS ENTIRE LIFE! 5X in 25 YEARS. I can even recount each time. Not many people can beat that!
He and I have gotten flu vaccinations every year for at least the last 12+ years. We’ve each only had the flu once during that time. (Before flu vaccinations became readily available, I would spend one week every winter in bed sick as a dog with the flu which usually turned into sinusitis and sometimes even pneumonia.) We’ve gotten every Covid vaccination: 5 for him & 7 for me. We’ve had Covid once – in August 2024. We’ve had every other vaccination as scheduled: TDAP for both, and RSV, 2 pneumonia, & 3 shingles vacs for me.
And guess what? After all those dozens of vaccinations, we’ve each received, we haven’t had the least bit of reaction or health problem from any of them. Pretty amazing, wouldn’t you say? Neither have my parents, any of my four siblings & their spouses, or 9 nephews & nieces, & 4 baby great-nieces & nephews ever had any problems from vaccinations they got. But I’m surely not going to use our experience to pronounce that vaccinations are perfectly safe based on the experience of the 26 members of my family!
I will use these anecdotes, however:
(1) my mom contracted polio when she was a child, when there was a polio epidemic in the US but no polio vaccination. Because of vaccinations, polio has been wiped out in the US and in much of the world.
(2) because of the anti-VAX movement, there has been an outbreak of measles in the US this year: almost 2000 cases to date, 12% of whom had to be hospitalized and 3 of whom died..21% of children under five who contracted measles have had to be hospitalized.
(3) None of my 3 family members on the autism spectrum nor the child in the home where I worked for two years developed it after a vaccination. None.
What I see underlying all the fear and concern about vaccinations here and elsewhere is that none of you folks are scientists or pediatricians, have family members who are scientists or pediatricians, and probably not even any friends who are scientists or pediatricians. And that’s a problem.
It is human nature to demonize something with which we are unfamiliar. It’s like racism: Blacks are delinquents, criminals, & dangerous . . . until you have friends who are Black. The same with believing Trump‘s lies about immigrants being rapists & murderers. Until you have friends who are immigrants. And the same with medical research. From afar, the unknown is a bogeyman. But once you become intimately involved, you realize that the fears and allegations are unfounded.
My husband is a scientist. We have dozens of friends who are scientists. A friend is on the faculty at one of the top 5 med schools in the US. All have Ph.D.’s. One of my brothers teaches pediatric infectious diseases at another med school. These are not stupid people. Anyone who thinks they’re smarter than them is a fool. They all do research in universities, free from corporate special interests. All have published in professional peer-reviewed scientific & medical journals. In addition, I have read dozens & dozens of medical articles from professional journals that are the same.
Yes, there are studies done by big Pharma, but they don’t get published in these professional journals and none of the people I know have ever received money from them for their research. Nor have any of the many professional articles I have read received any funding from any companies, let alone pharmaceutical companies. None. So while it does happen, it is nothing on the scale of what anti-VAXers claim. Not even close.
The real problem is not big Pharma funding medical research. The real problem is pressure on the FDA to approve treatments, medications, and vaccinations before they have completed the full length of rigorous testing. This pressure comes from patients who need it now and feel they can’t wait, their doctors, and, yes, from big Pharma who needs to keep their stockholders happy with a steady flow of profit. But that’s what happens in a capitalist economy.
So my plea to everyone is:
(1) to stop demonizing researchers when you’re neither a Ph.D. scientist nor a pediatrician in infectious disease diseases.
(2) to have a little humility and recognize that these people can run circles around the rest of us intellectually. Really.
(3) to think critically. Don’t believe what someone says just because the person has a degree after their name. It’s where they got their degree that matters. There’s a universe of difference between a degree from a correspondence program or backwater school and a degree from Harvard. Don’t just listen to attacks unless the person has a substantial alternative that is backed up by research.
I'm guessing there are other factors as well. Strong families that are independent thinkers- often religious-....
Yes! So very well behaved, calm, minimal fidgeting, and the children who did speak spoke clearly and in full sentences.
Yes of course vaccines have been "studied" in excruciating and voluminous detail.
The omitted portion of this statement is that virtually every one of these studies has been rigged- the same is true for virtually every single vaccine trial in history.
Vaccines have never been tested against a saline placebo. I think that in itself speaks volumes.
This is true and barely scratches the surface.
All vaccines are barbaric.
In a time of short attention spans, there is power in distilling one's arguments down to a soundbite. Whenever a shill for Big Pharma falsely claims that quacksines have been thoroughly tested, we can point out that not a single one of those industry-funded clinical trials was tested against a saline placebo. Therefore those clinical trials are unscientific and misleading.
according to Gary Null , there has never been a gold standard vaccine trial done , meaning a randomized double-blind placebo controlled test, and yes those who question that fact come under fire , rather than the vax makers who fail to properly test, amazing that the "poisoning children for profit" scam is so easily hidden from the sheeple right in plain sight :-/ :-( :-/
Ruby, great point. I suppose the "danger of not vaccinating" was just too great to be "ethical." Frankly, I don't think that finding volunteers would've been hard. And anyway, gov/mil used to inject unsuspecting soldiers with syphilis, so how much can ethics play in their world anyway?
In pre-clinical studies, practically every animal died after the COVID injection. When this happens, the trial is NEVER progressed to testing on human volunteers. It is aborted for being too dangerous... Instead, millions of people, children and babies were coerced into taking the dangerous COVID injections. As a result, there have been millions of adverse side effects and innumerable deaths. This was totally predictable and avoidable.
In fact, there was no contagious pandemic. It was all "viral marketing" to bring about, amongst several other corporate goals, a highly lucrative "Decade of Vaccines" for Big Pharma...
Please read the book called The Hot Zone. concerning viruses and pandemics thru the centuries.
To dismiss a contagious illness like COVID 19 that spread rapidly and killed millions of people as “viral marketing” for vaccines ignores the facts of what occurred. Thats the darkest conspiracy theory I’ve heard YET.
Ask the healthcare people on the front lines whether it was viral marketing
Healthcare workers on the front lines were not allowed to use medications that would quickly and effectively deal with the infection.
I see whistleblowers, eg Pfizer ( Dr Yeadon etc) & other medics ( Vernon Coleman ex doctor).who insist no new illness happened during the 'pandemic'..They are correct that tge injections, severely harm and kill but wrong that ( Coleman).Covid and the sometimes severe symptoms for years since, are just an excuse not to go to work ; to claim state benefits. Millions of people per country have symptoms for years after - injected and non-injected, all ages.
My sister was on the NHS front line and she said there was no COVID emergency. In fact, the hospital was quieter than usual, due to lockdowns. She also pointed out that PCR tests cannot be used to diagnose symptomless illnesses. The inventor of the PCR test said it was an amplifying tool for scientific research NOT a diagnostic tool.
Look up U.S. legislation which euphemistically defines vaccines as counter-measures (to be taken against a public they find threatening). A more accurate term is "bioweapon".
Literally viral marketing. What you say about the Covid animal tests, if true, is just another massive outrage on top of a pyramid of outrages. Thanks for the tip.
Not true, see below….
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/vaccines-101-from-molecular-science-to-global-policy
Vaccines are based on the unproven Theory of Viruses. Anyone who doesn't know that by now is either too busy to inform themselves of this important fact or proactively spreading disinformation.
Agreed, Toni. It's unscientific to believe in viruses because the Koch postulates haven't been met. Also, they lump viruses in with bacteria and other micro-organisms as if they are living entities. However, "a single or double strand of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat" is NOT a living entity. It's just a fragment of cell debris.
Change "vaccine trial" to "drug trial," and that sums it up.
"Bad Medicine," Ben Goldacre - book is over a decade old, still relevant
"Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime," Peter Gotzsche
This is nothing new, except for the lockstep pressure.
Whoa….now it’s conspiracy time
Whoa... now it's corporate shill time.
Lived in Singapore when my daughter was a month old. Took her for her 'required US" vaccines at 6 weeks and the doc refused. Told me they can cure whooping cough but not autism. That was back in 1986. So, my kids had the MMR shots, separately a month apart, in the US. And not until the age of 3 as they were home, not in school or daycare.
They didn't get autism, but they sure had the rest... ear infections, mumps, measles, etc., when they did start school.
I'm still grateful for Dr. Lee warning me about the MMR and suggesting it later; and separately. I have so many friends dealing w/autism, ADHD, etc., with their children because they didn't know and had their kids vaccinated way too early.
That doc in the scrubs would be toast in my book! I'd leave his practice based on his bad medical advice!
Yes, he did indeed do an emotional knee jerk reaction, very unprofessional. Is his Program funded by big drug marfi . . pharma corporate company?
> Took her for her 'required US" vaccines at 6 weeks and the doc refused. Told me they can cure whooping cough but not autism.
Brilliant statement.
Ideally he would have advised to not have any vaccines but his advice seems to have helped the child's health ie have the vax later. I had not known that earlier or later made a difference to the child's health although it seems logical.that an older child might have a stronger system to deal with vax poisons.
Yes. Although I strongly suspect that taking any vax, even at a later and less risky age, is still likely to compromise the victim's system in any of numerous possible ways that don't make themselves immediately or blatantly obvious.
i have 2 unvaccinated adult children that i raised to think for themselves and they both, out of pure fear and domination (28&30), chose to get the covid vaccines and also disgarded me out of their lives for a couple of years during this plandemic ... i am welcome back now and no discussion bout past ... and i am good with whatever they are choosing to do as i have surrendered completely. i know beyond knowing what is best for me and what is true. love loves no matter what AND i live freely as i am until my last breath in this illusory physical form. intuition is free and that IS me. love's will i am.
Have sent you email.
My kids are also completely unvaccinated..They are now 18 and 12 and never been sick. Best decision I've ever made. We are also plant based family.
Thank You for sharing your story…
How do you deal with the issue, that the Vx’d are Shedding?
I ask this as I experienced “Shedding” the last time I got a Haircut 4 + years ago…
MD’s get paid handsomely for administering vaccines so of course this scrub wearing doc will get his panties in a bunch. This was 13yrs ago!!! WTF is going on and why aren’t more parents doing their research? I truly believe my nieces have been harmed by childhood schedule of vax’s. They’re now C19 shot and boosted. Fear has come into play years in the making.
A story on the unvaccinated seems a bit incomplete without bothering to include the data on the entirely unvaccinated population (of all ages) across 48 states, i.e., the Control Group study, for which a peer-reviewed and published paper can be seen here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365417868_Health_versus_Disorder_Disease_and_Death_Unvaccinated_Persons_Are_Incommensurably_Healthier_than_Vaccinated
Total risk of at least one chronic condition after the age of 18 in the vaccinated is now over 60%. TRUE total baseline risk for those who have never once been exposed to any vaccines and those who've also avoided the "vitamin" K shot, is 2.64%. Take your pick.
Thanks Joy. Would you be interested in doing a written interview with me? I have over 10,000 subscribers and they would be very interested in your work. If so, could you please email me: unbekoming@outlook.com
Joy has also said that for the 0.25% of the population that is lifetime non-jabbed, the cancer rate is zero! Childhood cancer is a modern phenomenon. But check with her on the numbers. Did you ever do the interview?
Sorry I missed your invitation. Here's my direct email: ghostofjfk12345@gmail.com
Do write me there. I would be glad to answer any questions.
Joy
When my daughter born the nurse callously dangled her and injected her with vital K which I could not prevent. I have ne known why but will find out if I can.
The "dangled her" part too really pisses me off. I saw this treatment of a sick animal at the vet once and it made me sick. Still not over it years later. I think this kind of treatment of any vulnerable being is an indication either of psychopathy or malignant narcissism on the part of the so-called "caregiver."
I allowed also a few vaccines when my daughter a child ie Health Visitor grabbed her and injected....
I heard of a father who literally *guarded* his newborn daughter against hospital staff from the moment of her birth until their departure together from the hospital. I was highly impressed and inspired by this.
I know I'm coming late to the conversation, but I wonder what the actual statistics would be. The study itself said that it compared disease to the total population, which includes the very small percentage of unvaccinated people. I feel that this study would hold more weight if there were a way to separate the populations. I'm not saying the study wouldn't get the same results, I'm just saying that it would be more accurate, and therefore easier for me to believe. I also wonder if there is possibly another reason why the invaccinated are healthier. The study just attributes the difference in statistics to vaccines, but there are so many more aspects to health such as diet, exercise, pollution in densely populated areas, etc.
There can be correlation without causation as well. Shark attacks correlate with ice cream sales. Does that mean we are causing more shark attacks to occur when we buy ice cream, or is there another factor, such as warm weather, that is actually causing more people to go swimming, increasing the risk of shark attacks? Again, I'm not saying the study is wrong, but the way they came to their conclusions is not by using a sound scientific method, so it doesn't help me believe the statistics. I am open to changing my mind with more evidence, however.
Please check out Del’s latest doc about this: https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com/ This was made after Vaxxed 2
Kristina, the man who is still commonly referred to as the "father of modern epidemiology" John Snow, saved the UK from cholera simply by measuring outcomes between those who drank from certain (suspect) cisterns, and those who did not. By eliminating the suspected cause (cleaning up the suspect cisterns) he definitively proved the cause. This IS a "sound scientific method" of locating cause.
The Control Group study proved that there is only a 1 in 3 times the number of ATOMS estimated to exist in the entire universe that vaccines are NOT the actual cause of well over 90% of the chronic (deadly and disabling) diseases suffered by Americans of all ages. Now, you're free to take as many jabs as you like while saying "But there's still a chance (vaccines are innocent)" - but these odds are basically a finding that it's mathematically impossible vaccines are not the primary cause of these (immune mediated) diseases and disorders.
If you're going to claim it's not "scientific" (to use the gold standard method for toxicology) then do identify what elements contained therein are not scientific, and by exactly what logic you do not believe they're "scientific."
If you're 'open' perhaps you should actually READ the study itself, and perhaps you should do this BEFORE making incorrect claims about it.
Are you telling me they still use monkey kidneys after the unmitigated disaster that was the polio vaccine rollout?
Apparently so
It was meant to be an unmitigated disaster. That's the whole point of quacksines. They are slow-kill bioweapons, marketed as life-saving drugs. It's a total inversion of the truth, as practiced by pathological liars.
Pathological liars never respect anyone who is gullible enough to fall for their lies. Instead, they consider themselves to be superior to their victims and therefore they think they have the right to continue with their psychological abuse. It's totally warped, of course.
Its ALLdepopulation the whole system is partof the genocide for hundreds of years. Look oil billionaire Rockefeller who destroyed natural medicine a century ago - even murdering practitioners of free safe often herbal remedies. He created modern medicine to use his petroleum based products which are toxic. He created the medical schools and pharmacies to make profits of trillions for himself but also he wanted to depopulate & has done by many methods ongoing. Bill Gates's father a Rockerfeller lawyer and vv keen eugenicist with Gate's mother.& used Planned Parenthood' to speed up depopulation..ongoing. Gates has injected billions of peope for decades in Africa, India, the world and the injections found to contain anti fertility chemicals and other poisons. Many of the richest on earth are depopulating Rothschilds & others.
Thank you for doing this.
PS - The doctor in the blue scrubs couldn't be more of a pussy. Geez.
It was evident when he knew his ignorance had been exposed because he suddenly affected a conspicuous and overly emotional tone — totally departing from any forensic discussion of the facts, and opting instead for emotional appeals. “I feel so attacked!” “All we want is what’s best for the children!” “You’ve attacked me personally, and my colleagues!”
If he thinks that we, the audience, feel sympathy for his being “attacked” (which I don’t think he was), he’s wrong.
Nowadays, showing someone that they are in error with hard evidence is tantamount to an “attack.” And this doc clearly is not accustomed to being challenged, and is dangerous because he is not teachable. His ego is the obstacle here. He is so cocksure of being right while being so deceived and misinformed. He’s the perfect Pharma operative.
“Not teachable” = great condemnation. Sad. But great.
I find many doctors, surgeons are like that ie shockingly egotistical and u willing to believe they could be wrong.
Thank You for this. I have experienced similar behaviour/responses… Little more than Overt, Myopic, Arrogance…
I have not heard the “Hate Speech” declaration. They do tend to be a bit more Eloquent…
That's funny. That's exactly how the TV doctors reacted in an episode of some show called "The Doctors" when a blonde celebrity guest -- Jenna McCarthy? -- asserted that vaccines cause autism/damage in front of their television audience. The stooge doctors were getting their asses handed to them by her and her compatriot in the audience, and they quickly resorted to defensive anger about "being attacked."
Sounds like they are being provided with narcissistic role models on TV to copy. It's a well-known NLP technique.
Didn't fight back on facts either. Went for the man.
Exactly.
Maybe also good idea to test how unvaxxed children compared on school level against the vaxxed.. huh... but we know it will never happened.
Indeed, I've been thinking about that recently. Alot is said about health comparisons between the two groups, but what about IQ comparisons and even more importantly I think, personality profile comparisons. I have no doubt that this chemical stew impacts the big 5 traits such as neuroticism, openness, agreeableness etc.
Thank you for sharing this well thought out and thoughtful story and discovery of the difference between the Lives of
“The Vax-VS-UnVaX”
GOD✝️BLESS AND GOD✝️SPEED
My son and his wife were about to have their first and I told them not to vax. Now they have three brilliant, healthy totally unvaxxed [and organically fed] kids, and we're all beyond glad for that decision.
Beautiful, thank you for sharing.
Ashamed to say I allowed my son to have some of the vaccines, all the ones they give up to about 9 months I think, and nowhere near as many as they want to do even in the UK. I can't turn back time and dearly wish I had known this information before he was born, he would be with the unvaccinated for sure. I thank Andrew Wakefield as without his voice I would not have stopped, I did not know any better. One thing I know is if I have grandchildren they will never be vaccinated. That said, even though he has had some injections my son is ridiculously healthy, bright, strong and emotionally sound, and for that I am so grateful. Maybe I caught myself from harming him just in time.
Not your fault of course I too allowed 2.
My five kids have never received any of the shots and all are very healthy. When they do get sick, they recover beautifully. They had one of the strains of whooping cough that is not vaccinated for and came through it smoothly (I used Dr Suzanne Humphreys vit C protocol) and now have natural immunity for, I think it’s around 30 years? Only two out of my five kids ever had an ear infection and had antibiotics. Food, herbs, essential oils, sleep, vitamin C, sunlight and water have been the best medicines. And let’s not forget love too. Thank you for writing this post.
Thank you for sharing that, well done!!!
Thank you for making this post!
The ear infection thing is so interesting. I too have 5 unvaccimated kids and literally never have any had an ear infection. We all go swimming in pools and Galveston (dirty Gulf water lol). It's not for lack of trying! Ear infections seem like a major bugbear for some kids, especially my fully vaccinated niblings.
Dr Paul Thomas (& J. Lyons Weiler) in his study of 561 non-jabbed vs jabbed at his pediatric practice in Oregon also noticed that ear pain was much less in the non-jabbed. ADHD and allergies also much lower. But it's probably not an ear "infection". Dr Sam Bailey may have covered what's really going on in one of her videos I am guessing. More likely a poisoning by the vax followed by an opportunistic bacterial infestation which makes it seem like a bacterium was the cause. Galveston is famous for some rigorous disease detective work many decades ago - I think that's described in "Can You Catch A Cold?" which is a well written easy to read book on disease. Just published
Makes so much clearer. Regret and sadness for not knowing sooner.
How to get others to understand this is the next challenge. Thankyou.
The young, whiny, poor victim of a doctor is an embarrassment to the profession. He knows that he has been caught in his own ignorance, and attempts to cover it by talking more so that others don’t get a chance to speak.
Makes me wonder about the LeRoy High School teenage girls (and one boy) 2011-2012 story…just watch a documentary about this small town epidemic of “Tourette’s”. Makes me think it was induced by the HPV vaccines. Interesting how vaccines were not mentioned as a possible cause.
Indeed, it is almost certainly that.
I'm days backed-up on Substacks, lol! I hope the doc in the blue scrubs looks back on that show, and his words, and now has a definitive answer. He wants to look at vaccines, he WANTS to have this debate. Well, that show right there, that episode, wouldn't even be allowed to air now. And that fact is the evidence he really needs, if he has any critical thinking left in his brainwashed mind. Which I sadly doubt.
Its money - many or most medics we now know, will kill healthy people for money..Even if they dont get the money it seems but the hospital they work in does