I’ve done it twice for seven days and lived to tell the tale. The feeling of mental clarity and peace cannot be described. You have to experience it for yourself.
Thank you for this beautiful summary of an important book! I feel like I read the book in just half an hour. I will have to give these strategies a go.
And because dry fasting only produces about one unit of water per unit of fat burned, I imagine that this works best in a low evapotranspiration environment, like a cool marine climate vs a hot, arid desert. So I imagine my beloved dry sauna therapy will need to be stopped while I cary out a seven day dry fast. (I often sweat more than five pounds of water in a single sauna session).
I will share this with some of the health optimization communities I participate in. (I've heard that one of my favorite health optimizing practitioners does not recommend dry fasting, and I'm curious why this might be.)
This is a very thorough book review! I've saved it so I can revisit it if I get to a point where I can do a dry fast. I've water-fasted for over 10 days before, but never tried dry fasting. I think I'd get too thirsty or my throat would get dry and I'd be coughing due to that.
I’ve done all this, and how, except for withholding water. I get pretty severely hypotensive when I commune with the zero, so I tend to focus on electrolytes and water. But maybe that issue would correct itself if I just let it ride. I’ll try it one day. Also, I’d never be so bold as to stake any claim to immortality (that sounds like the Icarus protocol to me), but I can attest that these pathways will make you look and feel years younger. I feel like I’m living in rewind, and not to brag (it’s just a bag), but all this deliberate denial has carved my body up like Michelangelo carved David from raw stone. One of my approaches, not mentioned here, is to run 6-10 miles, depending on how I feel, in a state of complete glycogen depletion. It’s like mimicking the last 6.2 of a marathon on a regular basis. Bonk training it’s called. I’ll conclude by adding that, sooner or later, if you practice this kind of asceticism, you’ll reach a point of diminishing returns and realize that seasonality is the only constant. Feasts will eventually be required. For most of us, figuring out how to erase and withhold is key right now. But that’s because we all got out of balance. Nature used to balance us, with its cold snaps and droughts, the sun going high and low, teaching us pain and pleasure in equal measure. Now it’s up to consciousness to impose the Yin on itself.
I'm wondering if the water taken away from a regular fast would be more beneficial than drinking it. When I fast it's the water that gives a feeling of fullness, albeit very temporary, but comes back ever so strongly after my 3rd day. It makes sense to me that by eliminating the water I just might be able to get thru a longer fast than I'm doing now. Drinking water on an empty stomach frankly nauseates me. I see it as an antidote to food. A trick that doesn't work.
Not sure though if I can maintain a week but previous experience has shown me that fasting drinking copious amounts of water is not only inconvenient and annoying, since I rarely if ever become thirsty, is's very trying. I would rather do it cold turkey, no water. You do reach a wall where hunger leaves you but for me, not when you're constantly drinking water.
the book probably does... I would think at a minimum you should be sure you are not at all dehydrated before undertaking this fast. but even in the review it states not to do this if you have a viral infection.
Pretty sure I could never go 7 days without water. Maybe 1 or 2… I just really like water. There must be some allowance for water during the 7days as people die without it in 3-5 yes no? Not going to buy the book as it seems to be a no brainer. I’m a fan of fasting and don’t doubt the benefits, but 7days dry does sound quite extreme to me.
"In water fasting, the body doesn't need to produce endogenous water, which is a key process in dry fasting that leads to rapid fat burning and detoxification... This process is significant during dry fasting for several reasons. First, it provides the body with a clean, internal source of water, free from external contaminants."
I'm a fan of intermittent fasting.. it's a natural part of what living creatures should experience when food is hunted and gathered not ongoing consumption like a feed bag on our faces but the dry fast is a troubling concept especially with modern bodies that have huge toxic loads in our fat.
When fat breaks down it adds to the toxins in circulation and the idea that more pure water will result from a more toxic environment and no adverse events to kidneys that are not being flushed but relying on auto-generated fluid seems like a theory that works better in an ideal model than modern humans with all of our organs overloaded before the fast starts.
I must say that sometimes, Lies are Unbekoming amazes me. This is one of those. The Phoenix Protocol Dry Fasting book is simply revolutionary, while at the same time, covering a topic that is ancient and well known in many circles. Its contents have the potential to turn our medical system on its head - but the resistance, of course, is severe. Our medical systems are profit driven - and fasting is not an enterprise that can be easily leveraged for profit.
Hippocrates said, “Diseases which arise from repletion are cured by depletion; and those that arise from depletion are cured by repletion; and in general, diseases are cured by their contraries.” Fasting cures one of those two classes of disease, or does is it limited to that? Obviously, if we are starving, the cure is to eat, and if we are eating too much, the cure is to stop eating so much. But fasting is more than that.
Fasting can also be transformational. Many cures, like healing, are transformations. We have a cut in our flesh and it is transformed by healing to new skin. We have a dental cavity, and it is transformed by a dentist into a whole tooth. Fasting can cause our bodies to cast off damaged or faulty flesh, and grow new flesh in its place. Transformational cures. The dry fast (I have not experienced it personally) appears to be a powerful tool in the fasting arsenal of health, healing, and cures.
Unfortunately, our medical systems do not want to study fasting, and as a result, fasting cures are anti-interesting. Doctors and medical systems avoid talking about them, much less studying them scientifically. There are potentially thousands of different types of fasts - the dry fast being the most severe, with thousands of possibilities to cure different illnesses. But our medical systems have negative interest in such cures - they are not patent medicines.
I’ve done it twice for seven days and lived to tell the tale. The feeling of mental clarity and peace cannot be described. You have to experience it for yourself.
Where I'm from we Sundance with no food or water for 4 days, all the while we're praying. We've been doing this for generations.
Are you in a blue zone?
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Thank you for this beautiful summary of an important book! I feel like I read the book in just half an hour. I will have to give these strategies a go.
And because dry fasting only produces about one unit of water per unit of fat burned, I imagine that this works best in a low evapotranspiration environment, like a cool marine climate vs a hot, arid desert. So I imagine my beloved dry sauna therapy will need to be stopped while I cary out a seven day dry fast. (I often sweat more than five pounds of water in a single sauna session).
I will share this with some of the health optimization communities I participate in. (I've heard that one of my favorite health optimizing practitioners does not recommend dry fasting, and I'm curious why this might be.)
Thank you, again, for excellent contribution!
7 days without water…in Australian summer!
This is a very thorough book review! I've saved it so I can revisit it if I get to a point where I can do a dry fast. I've water-fasted for over 10 days before, but never tried dry fasting. I think I'd get too thirsty or my throat would get dry and I'd be coughing due to that.
I’ve done all this, and how, except for withholding water. I get pretty severely hypotensive when I commune with the zero, so I tend to focus on electrolytes and water. But maybe that issue would correct itself if I just let it ride. I’ll try it one day. Also, I’d never be so bold as to stake any claim to immortality (that sounds like the Icarus protocol to me), but I can attest that these pathways will make you look and feel years younger. I feel like I’m living in rewind, and not to brag (it’s just a bag), but all this deliberate denial has carved my body up like Michelangelo carved David from raw stone. One of my approaches, not mentioned here, is to run 6-10 miles, depending on how I feel, in a state of complete glycogen depletion. It’s like mimicking the last 6.2 of a marathon on a regular basis. Bonk training it’s called. I’ll conclude by adding that, sooner or later, if you practice this kind of asceticism, you’ll reach a point of diminishing returns and realize that seasonality is the only constant. Feasts will eventually be required. For most of us, figuring out how to erase and withhold is key right now. But that’s because we all got out of balance. Nature used to balance us, with its cold snaps and droughts, the sun going high and low, teaching us pain and pleasure in equal measure. Now it’s up to consciousness to impose the Yin on itself.
I'm wondering if the water taken away from a regular fast would be more beneficial than drinking it. When I fast it's the water that gives a feeling of fullness, albeit very temporary, but comes back ever so strongly after my 3rd day. It makes sense to me that by eliminating the water I just might be able to get thru a longer fast than I'm doing now. Drinking water on an empty stomach frankly nauseates me. I see it as an antidote to food. A trick that doesn't work.
Not sure though if I can maintain a week but previous experience has shown me that fasting drinking copious amounts of water is not only inconvenient and annoying, since I rarely if ever become thirsty, is's very trying. I would rather do it cold turkey, no water. You do reach a wall where hunger leaves you but for me, not when you're constantly drinking water.
Thanks for posting this!
Shouldn't this come with some significant warnings?
the book probably does... I would think at a minimum you should be sure you are not at all dehydrated before undertaking this fast. but even in the review it states not to do this if you have a viral infection.
Pretty sure I could never go 7 days without water. Maybe 1 or 2… I just really like water. There must be some allowance for water during the 7days as people die without it in 3-5 yes no? Not going to buy the book as it seems to be a no brainer. I’m a fan of fasting and don’t doubt the benefits, but 7days dry does sound quite extreme to me.
"In water fasting, the body doesn't need to produce endogenous water, which is a key process in dry fasting that leads to rapid fat burning and detoxification... This process is significant during dry fasting for several reasons. First, it provides the body with a clean, internal source of water, free from external contaminants."
I'm a fan of intermittent fasting.. it's a natural part of what living creatures should experience when food is hunted and gathered not ongoing consumption like a feed bag on our faces but the dry fast is a troubling concept especially with modern bodies that have huge toxic loads in our fat.
When fat breaks down it adds to the toxins in circulation and the idea that more pure water will result from a more toxic environment and no adverse events to kidneys that are not being flushed but relying on auto-generated fluid seems like a theory that works better in an ideal model than modern humans with all of our organs overloaded before the fast starts.
True. Wonder if one should detox first?
I must say that sometimes, Lies are Unbekoming amazes me. This is one of those. The Phoenix Protocol Dry Fasting book is simply revolutionary, while at the same time, covering a topic that is ancient and well known in many circles. Its contents have the potential to turn our medical system on its head - but the resistance, of course, is severe. Our medical systems are profit driven - and fasting is not an enterprise that can be easily leveraged for profit.
Hippocrates said, “Diseases which arise from repletion are cured by depletion; and those that arise from depletion are cured by repletion; and in general, diseases are cured by their contraries.” Fasting cures one of those two classes of disease, or does is it limited to that? Obviously, if we are starving, the cure is to eat, and if we are eating too much, the cure is to stop eating so much. But fasting is more than that.
Fasting can also be transformational. Many cures, like healing, are transformations. We have a cut in our flesh and it is transformed by healing to new skin. We have a dental cavity, and it is transformed by a dentist into a whole tooth. Fasting can cause our bodies to cast off damaged or faulty flesh, and grow new flesh in its place. Transformational cures. The dry fast (I have not experienced it personally) appears to be a powerful tool in the fasting arsenal of health, healing, and cures.
Unfortunately, our medical systems do not want to study fasting, and as a result, fasting cures are anti-interesting. Doctors and medical systems avoid talking about them, much less studying them scientifically. There are potentially thousands of different types of fasts - the dry fast being the most severe, with thousands of possibilities to cure different illnesses. But our medical systems have negative interest in such cures - they are not patent medicines.
to your health, tracy
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