It seems the book implies there is a virus that causes poliomyelitis even if there are other more important causes, however, where is the evidence of a virus responsible for any cases of polio or am I misinterpreting?
And all this history because of some dude named Etienne Trouvelot brought some exotic (gypsy) moths to Boston hoping to start a silk-producing business during the disruption to the cotton trade during the Civil War. He was hoping to breed silkworms that did not rely on Mulberry leaves but native Oak leaves instead. His batch of larvae escaped from an open window sill, , decimating the neighbouring oak forests – and they had to kill them with SOMETHING. Enter arsenic-based ‘Paris Green’ and the rest is history
Ground zero was 27 Myrtle Street in Medford, Massachusetts.
I went down the no-virus rabbit hole before reading moth in an iron lung then read silent spring by rachel carson after that. Maraedy believes a virus of the gut which had been harmless got access to the nerve tissue via new pesticides on fruit creating a new gateway. I think its tough to know if its toxin getting to the nerve tissue or a germ. But the whole tying this to an invasive species angle is something I can't quite fully unpack as our fight against invasive species serves as a metaphor for vaccines while at the same time being more than just a metaphor but more like the same fight one biological fractal over. And even connected where the answer to a side effect of the fight became vaccines. I don't think its just useful for understanding the issues..I think the way forward for reform in medicine and public health policy may be tying MFM folks to factions of environmentalists. Ethyl Mercury was stopped due to EPA standards running in conflict with the FDAs non-existant onces.
Actually, the book utterly eviscerates the notion of a 'virus' and explains how they used the 'virus' model to cover up the scientifically obvious real cause - metal toxin poisoning. They have transferred to non-scientific gobbledygook and mass hypnosis and psychosis to the genocidal COVID era.
A couple more random anecdotal quotes:
”Arsenic, even in a few hours after its ingestion, may cause distinct lesions of the spinal cord, of the type known as acute central myelitis, or acute poliomyelitis.” [Popov]
[...]
"Neurologist James Putnam, who had authored the 1893 article, “Is Acute Poliomyelitis Unusually Prevalent This Season?” would pose a question that would be even more poignant if asked today, almost 125 years later.
"It is not impossible that we group, clinically, under the name of poliomyelitis, several affections which might in strictness be separated; or, in other words, that several different poisons are liable to affect the anterior horns of the spinal cord, exciting results which, though in the main alike, may differ in detail.31"
Thanks, Julius. It's so interesting to see how scientists and doctors have refuted the dogma from the getgo ... and yet it has persisted until today. I remember picking up a book on scurvy in which was stated that the cure was known much earlier by some before it became generally recognised.
A "flu" that seemed to mainly impact 20-40 year olds. Hmmm.
Whoops and mainly impacts males. Hmmmm.
And mainly impacts males who were in the military during WW1. Hmmm.
And mainly hits these males during or shortly after combat in zones that were saturated with mustard gas. Hmmm.
And then this "flu" starts to "spread" in port cities where, gasp, these military men disembark after the war. Hmmm.
Not to mention over exaggerated numbers, mass vaccine campaigns, squalid living conditions, malnourishment, maritime transport for long periods in humid and unsanitary conditions amidst human and animal waste.
Dot Connecting 101 gets smothered under a barrage of political propaganda.
I link to a couple other works on the history of vaccines.
It answers in part the question of many possible causes, including other types of 'virus' causing acute flaccid myelitis. Just give paralysis a new name and wallah, you have 'cured' polio.
Other possible causes are listed including Cola, phosphoric acid and sugar is bad, um kay. And addictive and doctors recommended it!
Smallpox/chickenpox/monkeypox/radiation and sunburn burns all have similar symptoms.
Yeah, I was a bit stumped about this when I read the book as well. He clearly deconstructs the viral story of polio but still allows space for its proven existence and possible influence. My take, without having read his other works, was that he sought as much reach as possible for this work rather than go out on a limb and overtly suggest the assumed virus may have no causal relation because it truly hasn't been proven. I can't blame him if this is the case, and frankly the book definitely would be more effective in changing minds in those who never could possibly entertain what appears to be the increasingly fraudulent nature of the virology field.
I'm always in two minds about whether it's best to go for the jugular, ie, the fundamental truth or push a half-truth that's not so completely at odds with the dogma.
When you consider that there are so many paid agents out there pushing half-truth I think I have to favour the "go for the jugular" approach.
It would be really interesting to do a psychological study on what the more effective approach is. Regardless of which approach, there is always a cognitive dissonance period where we need to get used to an idea that overturns dogma and in my own case I think I just "park" extremely-at-odds-with-the-dogma truths, giving myself time to used to them while other people may completely dismiss a truth out of hand when the contradiction of the dogma is too great ... so perhaps it is best to go for half-truth from that point of view.
Of course, the more dogma you discover the easier it is to reject more of it. By the time I got to the nuclear bombs hoax it took me about 5 minutes to go, "Oh yeah, I see that," whereas if that had been the first dogma I confronted in my dogma dismissal journey I'm sure it would have taken way longer.
I recommend the book “Dissolving Illusions” to any who are starting on this journey. It tackles health outcomes across all major diseases of poverty and deprivation going back to the ~1700’s in the US, UK and Europe including Polio, and the mythology built up around it. Indispensable and impeccably sourced to primary sources on the ground at the time, it’s shocking to appreciate the appalling living conditions in which our ancestors lived during the emergence of industrial cities and how little impact the medical field actually had in improving quality of life.
Also the work of Mike Stone and Drs Sam and Mark Bailey - and there's also Dawn Lester and David Parker's book, What Really Makes You Ill. I have to say that there's something about Mike Stone's work that particularly appeals to me but also Sam does great videos too. Mike's website is a great resource for looking up the history of various allegedly virus-caused illnesses - I think easier to do an internet search of whatever you're looking for with site:viroliegy.com rather than try to navigate the website to find stuff.
Yes, Forrest Maready is great! I remember watching many of his videos, “My Incredible Opinion”, on FascistBook, way back in time before Rep. Schiff the Schitt D-CA, called for censorship in 2019. Are you aware of his new show? It looks like his videos are on the website.
The first 100 episodes were removed from FB, and were not on his old website either, but he has added them back to his new site (via subscription). Good to know.
Forrest is the best. My Dad just can't get past the brainwashing about Polio. I've explained it to him so many times and he just keeps saying "what about polio"? Even though he didn't want to get the Covid shot, his wife insisted, and he is awake on so many other issues....He read the Creature of Jekyl Island and is a gold and silver guy. It's very hard to get past some brainwashing after you reach a certain age, possibly. He just turned 90 God Bless him.
I have yet to read the book but I follow Forrest on YouTube. I first heard about the polio lies about 5 years a go and is linked with my awakening b4 the covid lies
Great recommendation and an absolute must read. In the fashion of a detective novel, Maready lays out the whole history of poliomyelitis (inflammation of the grey matter [polio] of the spinal cord) and all its utterly un-scientific superstitious myths and crackpot quack analyses (eg juvenile teething paralysis) and cover ups (by the medical professionals)
“My daughter Josie, who was placed under your care in May and November, 1865, andhas at home followed your directions in wearing more or less apparatus adjusted to her partially paralyzed leg, first manifested to us that her leg was debilitated when about eighteen months of age. She walked when about a year old, then gave up walking. We attributed the fact to debility from teething. When she resumed walking, at about eighteen months of age, the weakness in one leg was discovered.”
The metallic based insecticides (arsenic and then mercury and aluminium) caused paralysis particularly in young toddlers. Young people of that age are teething – therefore ’scientists’ deduced that the paralysis is related to teething. Hence pigs fly. But then they realised they could perpetuate the disease and make money. The so-called ‘vaccine‘ for a non-existent 'virus' had nothing to do with the reduction in 'polio' which had already occurred due to reduction in the use of the toxic insecticides (in particular DDT) at the time, along with basic improved hygiene practices (plumbing and sanitation.
Great book! As are "Crooked" and "Red Pill Gospel." On point with his master storytelling ability. Of note, Forrest just started his own podcast "The Forrest Maready Show" that is live every Saturday evening. Here is a link to his last show: https://www.forrestmaready.com/fmshow-003/?ref=my-incredible-opinion-newsletter
I saw the same thread on Polio and read the book. I was was so struck with it, that I returned to that old thing I used to do with my wife when we were first married. We sat outside with our coffee and I read to her. I have thanked Forrest Maready for opening up this history for us, and evangelised about his writing to family and friends. Following the revelations in this book, I then read his book "Crooked". Oh my. Forrest Maready is a curious and persistent man. I recommend his work. It will dispossess you of any lingering trust you may have in vaccines in a readable and understandable manner.
I purchased this book during the height of the lockdown in 2020 or early 2021 (in CA- endless lockdown) and recently read it a second time because it's such a fascinating and quick read. I have not read other works of his yet, but this definitely can serve as the best go to book on polio that would work to deconstruct anyone's thinking about the virus story. I had already been familiar with the false HIV/AIDS hypothesis and a good deal of the corrupt science involved with that narrative a few years earlier so I had caught wind of the problems with the smallpox and polio stories as well, but this book gave me a foundation about polio and its history that I was not familiar with.
The book, which I read in 2022, was an eye opener for me, leading eventually to discoveries about my own lifelong health issues. I had limited confidence in his conclusions, but I found other corroborating evidence elsewhere. It doesn't really matter to me whether he got everything exactly right. He very clearly was on to something.
Many of the discoveries I made resulted from subsequently reading his other book, _Smile_, in late 2022. I received a diagnosis of minimal brain damage at 19 or 20 years old, presumably arising from head trauma at birth, but reading this book and walking through the cranial nerves and the symptoms that appear when they are damaged gave me a new way to understand my own life history. I can see that there was more to what happened than my parents had known.
Iron Lung is great. I went in thinking Maraedy would bash the scientists of the day but I think he was respectful that it was a confusing unfolding of events. I think trying to tease out transmission of infection from shared exposure to toxin doesn't lead to clean cut and dry binary answers.
Really, people should read the Autism Vaccine as well. The title almost kept me away as it seemed brash...but in that book he's measured as well showing respect for the initial serious problem of dipteheria scientists and Doctors were earnestly looking for an answer too. From that book I think the diptheria vaccine is the best vaccine to really focus on as its development is where the concept of adjuvants came from and overall its story is so confusing. The vaccine sounds more like an allergy shot, than a vaccine as its more about dealing with toxins released by the germ than fighting the actual germ.
Which really I think more needs to be made of the fact that the lines between toxicology and immunology are blurry with the two having some odd similiarities and differences. Vaccines are trying to tell your body to pay more attention to a germ and fight it with antibodies while vaccine shots try to tell your body to chill out and don't over react. In the meantime can we always tell if we're exposed to an alllergen or figthing an infection. I can't?
I like Forrest Maready’s theories in Crooked, but Polio seems to be a complicated beast. Brian has a very ‘snarky’ tone of writing, which is funny if you get the joke - but sometimes I don’t! If you read his stuff on covid vaccines then he uses the term ‘severe efficacy’ to mean ‘efficacy against severe outcomes’ which took me a while to ‘get’.
You described what I sensed within a few minutes of reading Brian. Anyway, I'm open to being proven wrong again. I'm quite used to it.
Funny how you never have enough time to read things until it gets personal. I read Crooked as my youngest son was diagnosed with Lupus in his early 30s. We can't undo the choices we made for him when he was Vxd as a child, however we'd like to do all we can for him in the here and now.
It seems the book implies there is a virus that causes poliomyelitis even if there are other more important causes, however, where is the evidence of a virus responsible for any cases of polio or am I misinterpreting?
And all this history because of some dude named Etienne Trouvelot brought some exotic (gypsy) moths to Boston hoping to start a silk-producing business during the disruption to the cotton trade during the Civil War. He was hoping to breed silkworms that did not rely on Mulberry leaves but native Oak leaves instead. His batch of larvae escaped from an open window sill, , decimating the neighbouring oak forests – and they had to kill them with SOMETHING. Enter arsenic-based ‘Paris Green’ and the rest is history
Ground zero was 27 Myrtle Street in Medford, Massachusetts.
Fascinating.
I went down the no-virus rabbit hole before reading moth in an iron lung then read silent spring by rachel carson after that. Maraedy believes a virus of the gut which had been harmless got access to the nerve tissue via new pesticides on fruit creating a new gateway. I think its tough to know if its toxin getting to the nerve tissue or a germ. But the whole tying this to an invasive species angle is something I can't quite fully unpack as our fight against invasive species serves as a metaphor for vaccines while at the same time being more than just a metaphor but more like the same fight one biological fractal over. And even connected where the answer to a side effect of the fight became vaccines. I don't think its just useful for understanding the issues..I think the way forward for reform in medicine and public health policy may be tying MFM folks to factions of environmentalists. Ethyl Mercury was stopped due to EPA standards running in conflict with the FDAs non-existant onces.
Actually, the book utterly eviscerates the notion of a 'virus' and explains how they used the 'virus' model to cover up the scientifically obvious real cause - metal toxin poisoning. They have transferred to non-scientific gobbledygook and mass hypnosis and psychosis to the genocidal COVID era.
A couple more random anecdotal quotes:
”Arsenic, even in a few hours after its ingestion, may cause distinct lesions of the spinal cord, of the type known as acute central myelitis, or acute poliomyelitis.” [Popov]
[...]
"Neurologist James Putnam, who had authored the 1893 article, “Is Acute Poliomyelitis Unusually Prevalent This Season?” would pose a question that would be even more poignant if asked today, almost 125 years later.
"It is not impossible that we group, clinically, under the name of poliomyelitis, several affections which might in strictness be separated; or, in other words, that several different poisons are liable to affect the anterior horns of the spinal cord, exciting results which, though in the main alike, may differ in detail.31"
Thanks, Julius. It's so interesting to see how scientists and doctors have refuted the dogma from the getgo ... and yet it has persisted until today. I remember picking up a book on scurvy in which was stated that the cure was known much earlier by some before it became generally recognised.
Same with Spanish Flu. It's all lies.
A "flu" that seemed to mainly impact 20-40 year olds. Hmmm.
Whoops and mainly impacts males. Hmmmm.
And mainly impacts males who were in the military during WW1. Hmmm.
And mainly hits these males during or shortly after combat in zones that were saturated with mustard gas. Hmmm.
And then this "flu" starts to "spread" in port cities where, gasp, these military men disembark after the war. Hmmm.
Not to mention over exaggerated numbers, mass vaccine campaigns, squalid living conditions, malnourishment, maritime transport for long periods in humid and unsanitary conditions amidst human and animal waste.
Dot Connecting 101 gets smothered under a barrage of political propaganda.
I included Unbekoming's post in a post with a few on a theme, and then expanded on the polio and smallpox storylines.
https://open.substack.com/pub/denutrients/p/posts-showing-modern-illness-often?r=os7nw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I link to a couple other works on the history of vaccines.
It answers in part the question of many possible causes, including other types of 'virus' causing acute flaccid myelitis. Just give paralysis a new name and wallah, you have 'cured' polio.
Other possible causes are listed including Cola, phosphoric acid and sugar is bad, um kay. And addictive and doctors recommended it!
Smallpox/chickenpox/monkeypox/radiation and sunburn burns all have similar symptoms.
pesticides.
Yeah, I was a bit stumped about this when I read the book as well. He clearly deconstructs the viral story of polio but still allows space for its proven existence and possible influence. My take, without having read his other works, was that he sought as much reach as possible for this work rather than go out on a limb and overtly suggest the assumed virus may have no causal relation because it truly hasn't been proven. I can't blame him if this is the case, and frankly the book definitely would be more effective in changing minds in those who never could possibly entertain what appears to be the increasingly fraudulent nature of the virology field.
I'm always in two minds about whether it's best to go for the jugular, ie, the fundamental truth or push a half-truth that's not so completely at odds with the dogma.
When you consider that there are so many paid agents out there pushing half-truth I think I have to favour the "go for the jugular" approach.
It would be really interesting to do a psychological study on what the more effective approach is. Regardless of which approach, there is always a cognitive dissonance period where we need to get used to an idea that overturns dogma and in my own case I think I just "park" extremely-at-odds-with-the-dogma truths, giving myself time to used to them while other people may completely dismiss a truth out of hand when the contradiction of the dogma is too great ... so perhaps it is best to go for half-truth from that point of view.
Of course, the more dogma you discover the easier it is to reject more of it. By the time I got to the nuclear bombs hoax it took me about 5 minutes to go, "Oh yeah, I see that," whereas if that had been the first dogma I confronted in my dogma dismissal journey I'm sure it would have taken way longer.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/nuclear-weapons-hoax.html
I recommend the book “Dissolving Illusions” to any who are starting on this journey. It tackles health outcomes across all major diseases of poverty and deprivation going back to the ~1700’s in the US, UK and Europe including Polio, and the mythology built up around it. Indispensable and impeccably sourced to primary sources on the ground at the time, it’s shocking to appreciate the appalling living conditions in which our ancestors lived during the emergence of industrial cities and how little impact the medical field actually had in improving quality of life.
Also the work of Mike Stone and Drs Sam and Mark Bailey - and there's also Dawn Lester and David Parker's book, What Really Makes You Ill. I have to say that there's something about Mike Stone's work that particularly appeals to me but also Sam does great videos too. Mike's website is a great resource for looking up the history of various allegedly virus-caused illnesses - I think easier to do an internet search of whatever you're looking for with site:viroliegy.com rather than try to navigate the website to find stuff.
Mike Stone - www.viroliegy.com subtitled Exposing the lies of Germ Theory and virology using their own sources, mikestone.substack.com
Dr Sam Bailey - drsambailey.substack.com
Dawn Lester - dawnlester.substack.com
Yeah, he almost got it right. No virus. All poison.
Yes, Forrest Maready is great! I remember watching many of his videos, “My Incredible Opinion”, on FascistBook, way back in time before Rep. Schiff the Schitt D-CA, called for censorship in 2019. Are you aware of his new show? It looks like his videos are on the website.
https://www.forrestmaready.com/
Yes you are right!! Thank you!
The first 100 episodes were removed from FB, and were not on his old website either, but he has added them back to his new site (via subscription). Good to know.
Forrest is the best. My Dad just can't get past the brainwashing about Polio. I've explained it to him so many times and he just keeps saying "what about polio"? Even though he didn't want to get the Covid shot, his wife insisted, and he is awake on so many other issues....He read the Creature of Jekyl Island and is a gold and silver guy. It's very hard to get past some brainwashing after you reach a certain age, possibly. He just turned 90 God Bless him.
I have yet to read the book but I follow Forrest on YouTube. I first heard about the polio lies about 5 years a go and is linked with my awakening b4 the covid lies
Great recommendation and an absolute must read. In the fashion of a detective novel, Maready lays out the whole history of poliomyelitis (inflammation of the grey matter [polio] of the spinal cord) and all its utterly un-scientific superstitious myths and crackpot quack analyses (eg juvenile teething paralysis) and cover ups (by the medical professionals)
“My daughter Josie, who was placed under your care in May and November, 1865, andhas at home followed your directions in wearing more or less apparatus adjusted to her partially paralyzed leg, first manifested to us that her leg was debilitated when about eighteen months of age. She walked when about a year old, then gave up walking. We attributed the fact to debility from teething. When she resumed walking, at about eighteen months of age, the weakness in one leg was discovered.”
The metallic based insecticides (arsenic and then mercury and aluminium) caused paralysis particularly in young toddlers. Young people of that age are teething – therefore ’scientists’ deduced that the paralysis is related to teething. Hence pigs fly. But then they realised they could perpetuate the disease and make money. The so-called ‘vaccine‘ for a non-existent 'virus' had nothing to do with the reduction in 'polio' which had already occurred due to reduction in the use of the toxic insecticides (in particular DDT) at the time, along with basic improved hygiene practices (plumbing and sanitation.
Correct ‼️
All of his videos are available but only for paid members on his site.
Great book! As are "Crooked" and "Red Pill Gospel." On point with his master storytelling ability. Of note, Forrest just started his own podcast "The Forrest Maready Show" that is live every Saturday evening. Here is a link to his last show: https://www.forrestmaready.com/fmshow-003/?ref=my-incredible-opinion-newsletter
I saw the same thread on Polio and read the book. I was was so struck with it, that I returned to that old thing I used to do with my wife when we were first married. We sat outside with our coffee and I read to her. I have thanked Forrest Maready for opening up this history for us, and evangelised about his writing to family and friends. Following the revelations in this book, I then read his book "Crooked". Oh my. Forrest Maready is a curious and persistent man. I recommend his work. It will dispossess you of any lingering trust you may have in vaccines in a readable and understandable manner.
I purchased this book during the height of the lockdown in 2020 or early 2021 (in CA- endless lockdown) and recently read it a second time because it's such a fascinating and quick read. I have not read other works of his yet, but this definitely can serve as the best go to book on polio that would work to deconstruct anyone's thinking about the virus story. I had already been familiar with the false HIV/AIDS hypothesis and a good deal of the corrupt science involved with that narrative a few years earlier so I had caught wind of the problems with the smallpox and polio stories as well, but this book gave me a foundation about polio and its history that I was not familiar with.
Thanks for that summary. I own the book, but it's nice to have things like that to share with others.
I knew the basics about polio before reading the book, but it added a lot to my understanding of the issue.
The book, which I read in 2022, was an eye opener for me, leading eventually to discoveries about my own lifelong health issues. I had limited confidence in his conclusions, but I found other corroborating evidence elsewhere. It doesn't really matter to me whether he got everything exactly right. He very clearly was on to something.
Many of the discoveries I made resulted from subsequently reading his other book, _Smile_, in late 2022. I received a diagnosis of minimal brain damage at 19 or 20 years old, presumably arising from head trauma at birth, but reading this book and walking through the cranial nerves and the symptoms that appear when they are damaged gave me a new way to understand my own life history. I can see that there was more to what happened than my parents had known.
Iron Lung is great. I went in thinking Maraedy would bash the scientists of the day but I think he was respectful that it was a confusing unfolding of events. I think trying to tease out transmission of infection from shared exposure to toxin doesn't lead to clean cut and dry binary answers.
Really, people should read the Autism Vaccine as well. The title almost kept me away as it seemed brash...but in that book he's measured as well showing respect for the initial serious problem of dipteheria scientists and Doctors were earnestly looking for an answer too. From that book I think the diptheria vaccine is the best vaccine to really focus on as its development is where the concept of adjuvants came from and overall its story is so confusing. The vaccine sounds more like an allergy shot, than a vaccine as its more about dealing with toxins released by the germ than fighting the actual germ.
Which really I think more needs to be made of the fact that the lines between toxicology and immunology are blurry with the two having some odd similiarities and differences. Vaccines are trying to tell your body to pay more attention to a germ and fight it with antibodies while vaccine shots try to tell your body to chill out and don't over react. In the meantime can we always tell if we're exposed to an alllergen or figthing an infection. I can't?
Great comment. I loved Autism Vaccine. Understanding that it was "horse serum" really stuck with me.
I bought this book! Just starting it! Ty!
i stopped watching once he got to polio because he made it sound like he found this out when age of autism ... idk if he gave any credit https://www.ageofautism.com/the-age-of-polio-explosion.html
https://unglossed.substack.com/p/questions-for-the-polio-toxin-theory
Brian Mowrey has done a series of complicated posts about polio and its vaccines, this is just one, but he disagrees with Forrest Maready on this one.
Thanks for this link. I will take a look.
I like Forrest Maready’s theories in Crooked, but Polio seems to be a complicated beast. Brian has a very ‘snarky’ tone of writing, which is funny if you get the joke - but sometimes I don’t! If you read his stuff on covid vaccines then he uses the term ‘severe efficacy’ to mean ‘efficacy against severe outcomes’ which took me a while to ‘get’.
You described what I sensed within a few minutes of reading Brian. Anyway, I'm open to being proven wrong again. I'm quite used to it.
Funny how you never have enough time to read things until it gets personal. I read Crooked as my youngest son was diagnosed with Lupus in his early 30s. We can't undo the choices we made for him when he was Vxd as a child, however we'd like to do all we can for him in the here and now.
i really liked this book. He has such an open mind to alternative possibilities and challenging common assumptions.