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Kelli's avatar

Wow ... just wow! This one is incredible. Thank you!

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

Thank you Kelli, I'm the person he interviewed. It's a joy to cut to the heart of the matter.

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

This is a great interview. Thank you, UnB. I just subscribed to Terry's SS and am ordering a book.

God Bless.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

Thank you for your support. I hope you get a lot out of it. Feel free to ask me questions or recommend topics to discuss

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Adam PC's avatar

Yo I tag u twice on tiktok hit me back bruh: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheep3044

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Christine C's avatar

I subscribed too. It's excellent.

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ClearMiddle's avatar

Yes, I just subscribed too. Book order likely coming.

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JB's avatar

Great post! You've become one of my favorite Substackers, by far. I've had to cut down on SS subscriptions, it had become overwhelming to get so many emails. You're on my keeper and soon to be paid list! Thanks for all you do.

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ClearMiddle's avatar

You sure do keep the posts coming fast and furious(ly)! I began reading in full skeptic mode, but I was quite surprised and pleased. There's much in this interview that is close to things that I say, or things I choose not to say, and not because I'm really smart or something but because I read scripture and I notice and remember what it says, as opposed to what denominations and traditions and what-not proclaim. Anyone who reads faithfully is apt to come up with similar ideas. Sometimes, anyway. But speaking about them can get us in trouble with our friends.

Reading and noticing things in scripture is one thing, but projecting a coherent picture from them, one that remains faithful to the word while also remaining consistent with what is happening is considerably more difficult. I'm seeing good ideas here. Not necessarily "the" explanation to end explanations -- we'll see about that -- but worthy of consideration by those not tightly bound to tradition.

In 2020 and 21 I spent quite a lot of time in the book of Revelation. Some of what it portrays resembles what has been happening recently, if you don't look too closely. The dispensational pre-millennialists have done a nice job of concocting an interpretation that matches what is happening, but they did it by only seeing what they wanted to see and ignoring anything else in scripture that argues otherwise. I think that might be a mistake.

One thing that came across strongly to me, from reading Revelation over and over again, is that it feels like these horsemen represent at the very least things happening now. Not really "future". It's not difficult, though, to fit them to the past 2000 years -- they fit well! -- and then we find ourselves now in some phase of the horrible "green" part, living in a world being destroyed with the aid of various "green" deceptions. That's an interesting "coincidence", and I had not noticed it.

Now is that THE interpretation? The right one? I can't say, but it might be. It makes more sense than anything else I've heard lately. That doesn't make it true, but even without accepting something as true, observations of this kind can function as "lenses" for viewing world events. But now I need to mount this lens, and see if it clarifies or conflicts. Or both. Hypotheses. (Yes, I've been reading the author's comments.)

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Tami Berman's avatar

I believe that the literal translation of Scripture is a deception in itself. The hebrew bible is written in code. The hebrew letters are symbols that represent aspects of human nature. It is not a language that was ever meant to be spoken. Jesus is not and never was a person. Nor is anyone else in the bible. Jesus in hebrew is just one more letter of the same letters that spell yehovah. All the stories in the bible are explaining the Law of Attraction and how manifestation works. Understand the Law and you will Know how to manifest the Garden of Eden and the Messiah. https://imaginationandfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/012.-Neville-Goddard-FIVE-LESSONS.pdf

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ClearMiddle's avatar

Yes, there certainly are different ways to understand things. I was in a similar place to where you seem to me to be now -- I recognize it -- and there has been value in every phase of my life, and I assume there would be in yours as well. We're always learning, if we are open to that and are seeking truth.

In my experiences, I would continue in a phase of understanding for some number of years, learning, and then move on to another, in part as a result of what I had learned. Others I have known have stayed put, no matter what, and I have learned from that. My practice is to move on when the time to do so arrives, when the signs are strong and clear, but not before.

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Tami Berman's avatar

I feel like that has been my path as well.

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Christine C's avatar

Started reading this interview about 4am (CST) and it's fascinating. Really glad you posted this!

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Cory's avatar

Dear Unbekoming,

Looking forward to reading this.

You are truly a deep thinker & gifted writer!

Have followed you, I think, since 2020 starting on Twitter and watched your evolution.

Thank you,

Cory

USA

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Middyboy's avatar

Very interesting interview. This particular Christian actually read The Aquarian Conspiracy when it was first published and delved into various esoteric streams of thought over the subsequent decades. The Covid scam woke me up to re-examine many events which I previously accepted on face value. I had an odd secondary awakening though (which seemed to come from nowhere) when I was made aware that all the gnostic and theosophical material I had been reading was vain and deceptive nonsense. I'd be interested in listening to a discussion between Mr Wolfe and James Delingpole, who also seems to have been down many rabbit holes but has emerged as a firm Christian.

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Christine Grace's avatar

YES. "For me it’s an easy choice, but I’ve been spiritually preparing myself for 20 years and I welcome it by now. God says that cowards will not be welcome in His eternal presence (Rev 21:8). It takes courage to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, because everyone has to leave something else behind. That may be family, friends, lifestyles, atheism, or even a church denomination. The goal of the believer is to escape your past and join a family which transcends skin color, nationality, time, and space. You don’t have to understand everything in order to enter the Kingdom. In fact, Jesus says we have to start over and humble ourselves if we want to join his revolution: “Truly I tell you,” he said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 18:3) I know that God will open the eyes, and give courage to those who love the truth more than their own lives." Ditto! Thank you for sharing.

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Allan's avatar

Charles Manson killed the Love and Peace movement while under the control of the MKUltra program. The fathers of the students at Kent Street shot four dead(????)in Ohio with their National Guard uniforms on because there kids were protesting. These two events crushed the rebellion out of the majority of the American youth. Also changing the path of many of them. I think these two operations snuffed out the Age of Aquarius. The Cabal wouldn’t want us to know we are all Gods and start treating each other like Gods.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

The assassination of Kennedy and John Lennon were also big factors in killing the youth movement, but it didn't go away, it just took on a more professional level. As for being gods, don't you see Oprah talking about it? And that woman she's connected to, who's running for president? Joe Rogan is all about that, and they push him to #1 in the world. They deceive themselves and each other, because they have a God-shaped hole in their hearts.

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Andrew N's avatar

This is fantastic have just watched the interview with Daniel Natal,

Have you read any of Paul Levy's work?

From this article https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/war-and-wetiko

Interestingly, The Book of Revelations talks about a “war in heaven.” (Revelation 12:7). In this phrase, the Bible, which can be conceived of as being encrypted utterances of the soul itself, is creatively symbolizing a living transcendental dynamism that is taking place within the collective unconscious of humanity. If “the kingdom of heaven is within us,” so too is the “war in heaven.” When we are unable to contain the warring elements within ourselves, however, the inner conflict of opposites will spill out into the external world where this conflict will get “dreamed up” and literally acted out in the world theater by way of projection. This is one of wetiko’s chief ways to distract us into thinking that the source and the solution of our problems is to be found outside of—instead of within—ourselves.

https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/carl-jung-imagination-evil

https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/the-light-has-cast-a-spell-upon-itself

These darker powers can only take on a convincing, apparent existence by tricking us into believing that they have power over us. These darker forces only have power over us, however, to the extent that we don’t see through their illusory nature, but rather, unwittingly give our power over to them by investing them with an undeserved objective reality, making them appear more powerful than is warranted.

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erikthegrey's avatar

Great discussion. In any study of Revelation, I highly reccomend: https://www.garynorth.com/freebooks/docs/pdf/before_jerusalem_fell.pdf Gentry makes the case for a pre AD 70 date for the book and matches up the events of the destruction of Jerusalem with the text.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Is there a link to hear the interview? I'd love to be able to listen and read along to follow.

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Unbekoming's avatar

Hi Joanie

no, it's only in written form, but if you have the Substack App (on iphone) it has an audio option you can use to listen to it.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Hm... assuming it's a "computer voice"?

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Unbekoming's avatar

Yes.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Okay, I'll just read it 😉

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Duchess's avatar

I wonder what he would think of Jonathan Cahn...that the old gods are back....because I miss Mike Heiser also...about principalities, and we know that the old gods ruled over different areas and peoples...and of course work for the ruler of this world.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

I've watched probably about 4-6 interviews with Jonathan Cahn, and every time he ends up saying some fishy stuff by the end. He seems to be a hardcore Zionist, using the latest trends and discussions to push people into a narrative that America is the great evil and Israel is the great hope. I'd have to dig deeper into his writings to pinpoint what's wrong, but he doesn't sit right with me. Heiser was a brilliant scholar first and foremost, and he decided to start sharing his discoveries in a very balanced way, whereas Cahn does a lot of creative storytelling and loose associations

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

"a hidden collective of highly-connected Baby Boomer occultists, known as Theosophists"

LOL

Seriously.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

Ever heard of Klaus Schwab? How about Henry Kissinger? Merilyn Ferguson, David Icke, Alice Bailey (she's their inspiration), Edgar Cayce, or Robert Muller? The leaders are public, but they have many disciples, who are today in positions of investors, CEOs, and politicians.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Its a deflection from the real power brokers. A misdirection.

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

Yes. Seriously. If you've never been engaged in that highly-connected world I suppose it would seem unreal to you but that doesn't prove it isn't real. Only that you've never experienced it. Which does seem real from what you've written. You lack experience.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Think of the real problem: the synagogue of Satan.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

That's a great topic, and it is related. As I said, the Baby Boomer thing is the lowest level of the force behind it, there are more above it.

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

We all have proximity to Satan in common, but from what you wrote I don't think that was your subject.

If by synagogue you are referring to the Jewish people, again, that's a deflection.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

You might want to tell the ones calling themselves that.

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Adam PC's avatar

Tell terry to hit me back: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheep3044

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milahu's avatar

> If you wondered what happened to the acid-dosing hippies, a lot of them grew up and became embedded in powerful organizations and decided they didn’t care about preserving their traditional values, but they couldn’t openly defy the status quo either. Their project has been called the “Aquarian Conspiracy”

LSD ("acid") is an important lesson in the school of life. i cant take people serious who say that "psychedelics are bad". 2C-E is my favorite, similar to Mescaline.

the problem here is that a powerful minority is trying to make their subjective worldview into an objective standard for all people, instead of aiming for a balance (justice) of multiple subjective views, because such "one truth" solutions are simple, easy to understand for the 99% idiots.

> if you haven’t spent a decade or more reading important books, doing your homework, looking up primary sources, and learning the skills necessary to be a proper researcher, you’re going to get swindled by the flood of con artists who are capitalizing on the trend.

yes. most people are stupid children, who never grew up, because official "teachers" kept them stupid.

in my case, i have been thinking about this sick world for 20 years (since my puberty at 14 years), and i have been writing my journal for about 10 years (since my prison time for growing cannabis). i had the luck to find a new hypothesis on "interpersonal compatibility" (aka: who are my friends?). when i talk to such "stupid children", they look at my book for a few seconds, find some trigger words they dont like, and then scream "youre a nazi!!" these people have the attention-span of a goldfish. i dont waste my time on them, i move on.

> Very few have done what I’m doing, which is alienating every side simultaneously, calling out the counter-culture itself as a controlled demolition project carefully curated and policed by the same people who are ruining the mainstream.

the victims of this pseudo-dialectic (controlled mainstream versus controlled opposition) (pendulum swing) (false dichotomy) are "tender-minded" people, aka idiots, who just want to belong to some group, and who dont care about details or long-term strategy, they just want to "feel good", to be stupid and happy. it really takes the natural talent of real intelligence ("tough-minded" personality types) to resist this push-pull dynamic, and to prefer loneliness when faced with a choice between wrong and wrong.

for me, im a lone wolf. i walk alone. i fight alone. but this loneliness is not sustainable, so of course im trying to answer the question "who are my friends?"

> piles of “hidden knowledge” produced by con artists like Jordan Maxwell.

my work can be classified as a search for "hidden knowledge". i prefer to call it "master morality" (nietzsche), because the public is so obviously ruled by slave morality (pacifism, stupidity, passivity, low standards)

what makes my work different from that of "con artists" is that my work has consequences for the real world, and is not just a fantasy-distraction for idiots, who believe that "knowledge is power".

because "the only true power is violence", so making my work compatible with a global military dictatorship (or with a ruling class of soldiers) was one "design goal" of my theory. because screaming "violence is bad" wont get you far. rather, embrace reality, and make "safe use" of it.

> the Aquarian project will pull out all the stops to convince the world that history is a lie, Jesus was just another Ascended Master like all the other Theosophist icons, and mysticism is the true frontier of discovery.

yes, most of "history" is a lie. you have already mentioned the 9/11 lie. they lie about everything, to justify their crimes, to give idiots "reasons" to work and fight.

"jesus" was just another human.

"god" is just a weird name for nature, but different personality types see different parts of the same nature. the challenge is to find a symbiosis of different personality types. (this really is an unsolved problem.)

to me, "jesus" is mostly a symbol for pacifism, a one-sided world view that leads to overpopulation, degeneration, collapse. so how the fuck will jesus save us?! that is equally absurd as fanatic zionists waiting for a "messiah ben david" to proclaim a "jew world order"...

to me, "jesus" is an example of a "type 4" personality, what Hans Eysenck called "fascist", what others call "transformational leadership style". in my view, type 4 and type 3 are best friends. type 3 is the "socialist". the public domain is ruled by socialists, the private domain is ruled by fascists. type 1 and type 2 have a similar symbiosis: type 2 (capitalist) in public, type 1 (communist) in private.

so all these world views are only symptoms of different personality types, and my impression of this "Aquarian Conspiracy" is that its just another remix of the same bullshit, created by type 3 and type 4, dreaming of some socialist utopia, where all people are equal, and live in peace forever... and like all these ideologies, first they have to kill all type 1 and type 2 people (social darwinism), because types 12 have no place in a 100% socialist world (secretly controlled by fascists). just like zionists are planning to kill all "non-jews" (types 12), and then paradise on earth will come.

> mysticism is the true frontier of discovery

no, they just wanna prove their "mind over matter" subjective view, that "everything is contructed" (constructivism, mentalism, spirituality), that laws of physics have no power, that "good intentions" are better than "good results", etc. etc.

transparency, honesty, justice... we all have our reasons, we all want to be taken serious. feelings and intuitions are equally important as sensations and thoughts (the four jungian functions, the four basetypes).

> Jesus had a very simple way of teaching

children should be free to choose their teachers, to create voluntary relations.

everyone should be allowed to work as a teacher, not just the "officially accepted" ones.

> If prophecy were “solved” too early, or by too many people, it would theoretically be possible to avoid its fulfillment; that would ruin the whole point. Prophecy is inevitable

that is the pacifist (passivist) speaking. as an activist, i say no, there are ways to take control, to be a leader. but not all people are born with a talent of leadership.

[part 1 of 2]

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[part 2 of 2]

> the biggest doctrinal pitfalls are anything that comes from the Catholic or Orthodox Churches (which are parts of “the Beast”)

yes, churches are bad, sects are good. empires are bad, villages are good. the difference is the number 150 (or 144) = dunbar's number = the natural group size. any form of "natural order" can only work in small groups of 150 people.

this also applies for such pretty ideas like "democracy" - in small groups they can work, but as soon as a group grows larger than 150 people, you need technology to organize that group, and this allows creating lies, where a "ruling class" of parasites can profit from the misunderstandings of others, and the group is too large for "natural" organization, so it is ruled by a technocracy, spreading its propaganda.

> the lie of apostolic succession, believing we need human priests

jesus was no special snowflake. people like jesus (with the same personality type) are so common that i find it boring. these people seem to have a constant lack of self-value (masochists, types 24), so they hide their dominance as "transformational leadership style" aka "soft power".

"we" do need human leaders = living gods. "we" as in: our half of the world. if your half of the world works with dead gods (sitting on a cloud and watching you), then good for you, but not for me.

> conflating human effort with the “Kingdom of Heaven” Jesus was always preaching about.

"Kingdom of Heaven" is the same nonsense that you see in your enemies: mind over matter, constructivism, mentalism, spirituality, ...

my favorite question to all "jesus people": if your life after death is so much better than your life before death, then why cant i kill you here and now, to liberate you from your painful life before death, and send you to your oh-so-great life after death?

my guess is that "life after death" is just a weird expression for long-term strategy, giving thought to our effects on our grandchildren, like leaving behind a fucked-up planet.

> Once you wrap your head around the logic of the Kingdom of Heaven as a network of free agents led by their consciences, influenced by the Holy Spirit and grounded in the Word of God (i.e. Bible), you start to get your footing in how revolutionary it’s supposed to be. You begin to realize how simple and obvious the role of a Christian really should be, and how you can discard everything else.

nah mate, its just a subjective world view, shared by 1 of 4 personality types. dont be so fucking proud of your personality type... we all have our reasons, and a "perfect world" needs all four types.

> They refuse to create a standard by which to judge anything, because they don’t want to be judged in turn.

in psychology, there is the contrast of judging versus perceiving. or active versus passive.

personally, im very judgemental, i have some strong opinions, and i have no fear of being judged. im not afraid of conflict, competition, fight. i dont have a "greed for harmony".

one problem of pacifism is that everyone feels "right", but there are no fights, so we never know who actually is "right". in science you would say, everyone is allowed to have his hypotheses, but all experiments are illegal, because experiments could reveal some hypotheses as false, and then someone would cry...

> the Winter Christian is a thought experiment about what it takes to operate in this dark future.

sounds similar to my vision of a post-apocalyptic culture...

> It pictures a soldier of God

i am a soldier of nature : ) a radical naturalist, fighting for natural order...

> It will be a crime to say that anyone is wrong. Tolerance will be their sledgehammer.

equality, greed for harmony...

> Those who fight this False Light will face persecution, and most likely death. We will be exterminated just as easily as they “cancel” us online now. I can’t wait.

yeah. cops are planning to bust my door, steal my stuff, and throw me in jail for five years, for distributing my book for free in public. but my hypothesis will survive.

> In these heavenly proceedings, there is one divine being in particular who has been given the role of contradicting them, poking holes in their logic and finding weaknesses in God’s plans. That’s “the Satan” figure.

satan can be translated to personality type 1 (my type) or type 3.

i see myself as a radical anti-humanist (and anti-christian), because i am not happy in this world ruled by pacifists, who believe that human life has a million times more worth than the life of animals or plants. to me, humans are just animals. (if my hypothesis on compatibility is true, then it will also work with animals.)

> God’s plan is so audacious and backwards that a war erupts in heaven, led by Satan

makes sense if satan is type 1. type 1 is aggressiv, a "natural born killer", an "anti-pacifist", a soldier, a "serial killer".

> They are exiled to earth

yes... types 12 are "the physicists", we live in the real world, we dont have a "life after death", we dont care about "good intentions" but we want "good results".

but this can also be translated to types 23, who are just "naturall stupid" (strong bodies and weak minds) (using "heaven" as a symbol for intelligence), then satan would be type 3, who is more aggressive than type 2. type 3 leads, type 2 follows.

so to me, this is just another fancy story to explain personality types, which are inborn and constant for life. types 23 are forever trapped in their stupidity, and types 14 have the difficult task to somehow make "safe use" of the stupid ones.

this is getting too long, sorry for the noise.

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Terry Wolfe's avatar

Hi Milahu. I'm the person he one he was interviewing. I read both of your comments fully. Based on what you're saying, I'm guessing you haven't actually read what Jesus said, have you? You should give it a try and see for yourself what he taught. What could be the harm? See for yourself how his personality seems, don't just take the word of others. And while I don't know the list of personality types you keep referring to, I've read enough Nietzsche to get his argument. He was a whiny loser who felt sad about the decline of the Catholic Church as the moral guiding framework of Europe; his notion of "God" was actually the Vatican, and the rest of his writing was coping and playing make-believe. Rene Girard was a much better philosopher and analyst of human nature. You're proving his point: that Christianity is the scapegoat of losers like Nietzsche and Carl Jung who want to re-envision a post-Christian society but can't produce results. The people who run the world today are sociopaths, that's why they're depopulating already. They're not pacifists, they're warmongers. They are doing exactly what you advocate: worshiping Nature and killing mankind in a Hunger Games style struggle of survival of the fittest collapse. You'd fit right in with their crowd, and you may get the chance to kill Christians in the future if their plan is achieved in our lifetimes.

And to answer your question (ie. "if your life after death is so much better than your life before death, then why cant i kill you here and now, to liberate you from your painful life before death, and send you to your oh-so-great life after death?") You're mistakenly going along with the Nietzschian delusion that for Christians, this world and our lives as believers are painful, or that we're avoiding life and conflict. Quite the opposite. That's him projecting his own loser life of a coward, somebody with a degenerative mental disease and addictions, and weak slavery to his worst impulses, just like Aleister Crowley. For me, life is not painful at all, it's a rewarding march of steady progress, contributing to the greatest good, seeing it provoke evil people who envy the good. But if you did kill me here and now, I would bless you, because I get blessed for being persecuted. And as Paul said, "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain." (Philipians 1:21)

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hey terry. thanks for discussing my troll comment ; )

its always a challenge to find out, where exactly is the difference between our world views. (at least i find differences more interesting that commonalities.)

we seem to agree that "small groups are better than large groups". sects versus churches. villages versus cities. tribes versus empires.

> Based on what you're saying, I'm guessing you haven't actually read what Jesus said, have you?

true. i only know fragments like "truth will make us free". and i saw that mel gibson movie "passion of the christ".

my impression is that jesus is a pacifist, who is trying to survive in the roman empire with a "dont tread on me" philosophy: "im peaceful so let me live".

like today, civilians say "im a civilian, im innocent, let me live". (but the same civilians work for the empire, which is dropping bombs on foreign countries, so of course they are "guilty".)

jesus is playing "the long game": he knows that the roman empire will collapse one day, because romans are short-sighted, and then "the jesus people" will rule the earth, and do everything right...

my very narrow interest is this one question "who are my friends?" because i believe that this missing answer is a bottleneck, causing many other problems.

and im pretty sure that jesus has no answer. because practically, no human has a good answer on this question (at least not in public), and jesus is rather famous, so if jesus would have an answer, more people would know.

> I don't know the list of personality types you keep referring to

i have a suspicion that some personality types (types 34?) are naturally blind to personality types, so these people will never "truly understand" psychology... this is a catch-22 problem, because this blindness could be fixed by connecting different personality types, so everyone can delegate his weakspots to his friends.

with my hypothesis that jesus has a type 4 personality, jesus would answer something like "chill bro, we all are friends" because "we are all equal". its like discussing colors with blind people. or like talking english to chinese people.

> Rene Girard was a much better philosopher and analyst of human nature. You're proving his point: that Christianity is the scapegoat of losers like Nietzsche and Carl Jung who want to re-envision a post-Christian society but can't produce results.

yes im a loser, yes i cant produce results, because what i want is criminal (serial murder, decentralization, tribal warfare), so im doing nothing (living off state welfare in germany, waiting for the collapse), except talking and writing about "what would Milan do if he had all freedoms". currently i would describe myself as a "concept artist", but thats just a side-job, because my main-job is criminalized.

christianity is just one version of slave morality, and slave morality is "the scapegoat". aka: pacifism, civilization, high culture, city culture, passivity, following, waiting, trust in authorities, ... (what you also describe as "trust authority figures")

this book is on my toread list, because it resonates with my "righteous anger" right from the start. (but im afraid that this book is just another passive description of this sick world, without a concrete suggestion of how to fix this mess.)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60222529-the-wolf-tamers

> The Wolf Tamers: How They Made the Strong Weak. by David Sinclair

> In the war of the wolves and the sheep, what if the sheep started winning?

> The strangest war is being fought. It’s a war to destroy human intelligence and human strength. This war says that wolves must be exterminated or made into non-wolves, by taming them. And then they can become… pets.

so "slave morality" is when sheep are ruling over wolves, stupid are ruling over smart, etc... everything is wrong, everything is inverted, injustice rules, culture fighting nature.

> The people who run the world today are sociopaths, that's why they're depopulating already.

nah, they are depopulating because there are 20x too many people in this world. seriously, you dont belive in overpopulation? then what is the "carrying capacity" of this planet? today we have 10,000,000,000 people. would 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 people be "too much"?

> They're not pacifists, they're warmongers.

i wanted to say: the current overpopulation is a direct result of pacifism = criminalization of serial murder, replacing serial murder with mass murder ("war") every 100 years. pacifism has fixed nothing, its just a waste of time, replacing death with "debt".

> They are doing exactly what you advocate: worshiping Nature

sounds good. youre not worshipping nature?

too bad the elite keeps ignoring my book : / maybe they already know my solution, and i have found nothing new. whatever, at least i have my purpose : )

> killing mankind

nah, just the 95% too much. "flatten the curve". and then keep it stable.

if you had a flock of sheep in a limited space, would you allow the sheep population to grow exponentially? do you understand what "exponential growth" is?

> You'd fit right in with their crowd

maybe, but im too selfish to follow orders, so i would never work as a soldier for the empire. rather some "independent" soldier fighting for a local tribe.

> if you did kill me here and now, I would bless you, because I get blessed for being persecuted. And as Paul said, "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain." (Philipians 1:21)

yeah, because cops would arrest me, and reward your family for your martyrdom of provoking my aggression...

to me, christianity / slave morality is really just a sheepskin of the empire ("the beast", the church, the state), no alternative, no opposition.

in my work, i resolve this conflict by saying that farmers and soldiers are equally important, and both "jobs" should be present in equal numbers in every tribe. (farmers/soldiers = slaves/masters = christians/romans.)

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

Jesus does have an answer to your question re : who are your friends? Terry's suggestion to read the bible is a good one. Jesus gives dozens of answers to that question and how to pursue those answers. The apostle Paul expounds on them.

Just read it for yourself. Ten years ago if anyone had told me I would be following Jesus today, I would have told them to give the crack pipe a rest. That's how opposed I was to the very thought of Christianity. Now, I follow Jesus. That's how logical, profound and spiritual I have come to understand his teachings. Which have been detoothed by virtually all Christian denominations. Sad, but true. Anyway, read it and make up your own mind. You seem to be blessed with a good one.

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Christine C's avatar

That's an amazing and wonderful testimony, Pirate! I bet Terry Wolfe and Unbekoming would be happy to hear how this happened to you. I know I would be! Tell us more. 😊📖🙏

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

I'm glad you got something from it. I will come back and go into more detail. God Bless.

I also plan to dive in on the stack I just started. Sub if you feel moved to do so. All (and I mean this literally) things work to the glory of God.

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milahu's avatar

> Jesus does have an answer to your question re : who are your friends?

then where is it?

my answer is this: https://github.com/milahu/alchi#abstract

did jesus have such a "pattern of relations"? did jesus talk about personality types for only one second?

here is what "the beast" (the church, the vatican, the roman empire) has to say about personality psychology:

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html

> A Christian reflection on the “New Age”. by Pontifical Council For Culture

> John Paul II warns with regard to the “return of ancient gnostic ideas under the guise of the so-called New Age: We cannot delude ourselves that this will lead toward a renewal of religion. It is only a new way of practising gnosticism – that attitude of the spirit that, in the name of a profound knowledge of God, results in distorting His Word and replacing it with purely human words. Gnosticism never completely abandoned the realm of Christianity. Instead, it has always existed side by side with Christianity, sometimes taking the shape of a philosophical movement, but more often assuming the characteristics of a religion or a para-religion in distinct, if not declared, conflict with all that is essentially Christian”.(6) An example of this can be seen in the enneagram, the nine-type tool for character analysis, which when used as a means of spiritual growth introduces an ambiguity in the doctrine and the life of the Christian faith.

so obviously, "the beast" has a problem with "gnosticism" and people who seriously want to build a "paradise on earth", who are not happy with a "kingdom in heaven", aka mysticism.

and you seriously believe that you are some alternative or opposition to this beast? my impression says no. any idiot can see that 9/11 is a lie, but then offering another lie as "a better solution" is just stupid.

> Terry's suggestion to read the bible is a good one.

nah, youre just trying to waste my time.

like in south park S14E02 scrotie mcboogerballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzvfK5nChbA

> Now, I follow Jesus. That's how logical, profound and spiritual I have come to understand his teachings. Which have been detoothed by virtually all Christian denominations.

i follow myself, thats good enough for me. im a "born leader", but you will call that "satanic arrogance", and you only follow "jesus", and everything else is wrong...

all "too radical" trends are castrated, perverted and integrated into the mainstream, this is also why i explicitly say that "legalize serial murder" is an absolute requirement for my solution.

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

Follow the teachings of Southpark if you prefer. It's your life.

But don't come knocking on my door if murder is in your heart. Thanks.

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