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Thanks for the mention and quoting me. American medicine is such a mess, but I never got around to questioning my assumptions about this topic despite my years studying medical corruption for Butchered my "Healthcare". We US docs are smug about our beliefs after our decades of indoctrination. I'm shocked anew every week or two when I realize another cherished idea was planted by industry. If you download my book free, please at least review it and if you like it (it was three years of full time work) please buy the ebook to support my Amazon Ads contractor. I don't make money on my writing.

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You are welcome Robert. Thank you for all your work.

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Dec 30, 2022Liked by Unbekoming

Every time I think that I know the worst about our deathcare system, I read something like this, and realize there really is no bottom to its innate evil.

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I know the feeling. Every time I pick up a stone to look underneath it, hoping beyond hope, that nothing is there, something lurches out and bites me. Snakes everywhere!

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Dec 30, 2022Liked by Unbekoming

"Male circumcision and female genital mutilation are two entirely different surgeries, and conflating them dishonors both subjects."

There are several different forms of female genital mutilation. They are all barbaric, but most (last I checked, admittedly many years ago) performed in the US are restricted to the clitoral hood, which is homologous to the male prepuce (foreskin). Most people mistakenly believe that "female circumcision" (an anatomical impossibility) is a euphemism for a clitorectomy. It may be, but not necessarily.

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Dec 31, 2022Liked by Unbekoming

Debunking a of the false lie-filled "studies" with financial conflicts of interest:

https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/alleged-medical-benefits/

A medical organizations that oppose male genital mutilation and the garbage retroactive backpedaling rationalization for mutilating boys:

https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/medical-organization-statements/

Foreskin being sold online, human trafficking, does anyone care about boys?

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/search/foreskin?focus=products&page=1&perpage=30&sort=relevance&term=foreskin&type=product

Bill Gates and Fauci love promoting mutilation!

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

Gynocentric society and a lack of empathy for boys and men:

gynocentrism.com

http://empathygap.uk/

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Male genital mutilation and female genital mutilation ARE comparable.

Why would you say otherwise?

The lowest degree of female genital mutilation is a pin prick in the clit, still wrong - but when compared to the removal of 15 square inches of healthy densely innervated erogenous tissue, the foreskin, this is modern USA circumcision mutilation of boys - it is more severe.

They have varying degrees of MGM and FGM.

They're both humans, boy and girl - it's both the varying degrees of unconsensual removal of healthy erogenous tissue. How is it not comparable?

What motivates you to say this? Genuine question.

I'm reminded of:

Gynocentrism.com

The Empathy Gap by William Collins. The premise of this book is that boys and men get consistently and lower levels of empathy and any social issues affecting boys and men in modern gynocentric society virtually always take a backseat.

MGM and FGM are comparable because boys are just as valuable as girls.

The west doesn't tolerate FGM for Muslims doing it - but, we give a pass to Jewish people because of the antisemitic race card they use and the fact the boys are treated with less care than girls - otherwise this would be illegal already.

Also, Dr. Ronald Goldman and Eric Clopper are both Jewish and have written books damning male genital mutilation, and there is a group, "Jews Against Circumcision", that is against, you guessed it, circumcision...they are not antisemitic, they don't hate themselves, they love their sons and don't want to hurt and traumatize them.

These are honest criticisms and questions

Thank you.

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Dec 31, 2022Liked by Unbekoming

All this aside - I just want to say, "thank you".

Thank you for taking the time to write about this and explore it.

Baby boys unborn or just born, thank you, too - as well as their future partners and their future sons who no doubt will be spared.

I understand the utility of the softer, less critical stance and language...to someone who spends a lot of time volunteering and donating to end this human rights violation - I understand that I wax passionately about it.

I have nothing but respect for you.

Happy New Years.

May the Wind Be at Your Back.

- Edmond Dantès

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Dec 31, 2022Liked by Unbekoming

You're clearly and sincerely devoted to your cause, Edmond. I admire that. While I took the subject lightly I do understand the need for parents to reconsider the matter. My sons are fathers now themselves so I really don't have a dog in the fight. But I can see dropping the "tradition" without too much fanfare.

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Yuck. I'm uncut and as nature intended me to be.

I personally find circumcision to be revolting. It's probably a European thing.

I think my record for shagging a woman continuously is about seven hours (beautiful Russian I met on a dating site in a hotel in Paris; unlike many hotel fucks, I managed to not break the bed on this occasion) so don't tell me your lack of sensitivity makes you superior. 😂

I'll get my coat.

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Dec 30, 2022·edited Dec 30, 2022

Tempest in a tea kettle when there are other much more serious problems facing human, men's and women's, civil and inalienable human rights being eliminated by a 'pyramid cap' that also includes long standing state religions of all stripes. But to address this many fathers give consent so that their son looks the same as them as end of story. This was my criteria in that decision when the birthing Doc put that straight up question to me without any opinion on his part either way. The thought that there might be some long lasting subliminal psycho trauma directly attributable is very thin at best. The fact that their is a religious element to this, for and against, as a matter of brandishing religious fealty and against the 'other' is a large component of this practice for the followers of state religion. An Eastern Euro friend told me he was left 'intact' as a matter of religious statement for Christianity and against the Jewish faith. This to differentiate him from the people who had crucified Christ. This as just another control function. As a joint parental decision on how a penis looks perhaps women could way in on what they prefer as to their thoughts on this act, the look and their experience and preference with either, with or without.

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You haven't even reviewed the literature.

Intense pain is preverbal trapped survival stress.

It impacts biological development to be out in fight/flight/freeze mode.

Baby boys have nervous systems, you only need a nervous system to sense danger - and being strapped down to a circumstraint table and having someone dig into your penis with a scalpel and clamp, etc - yeah, babies sense that danger.

Lots of amputated nerve endings.

It's his penis, not the family penis.

You treated your son like a cattle to brand, a slave to mark.

Realize that.

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It's his penis.

The parental preference of whether the parent likes to fetishize mutilation and degradation that is involved in the unconsensual and unethical circumcision of minors shall have no bearing.

Saying that "there are worse things" is such a cop out and coward's way out.

Have a heart.

This is barbaric.

The only person who matters is the person whom the penis is attached to and owned by.

Parental choice?

Then we should let Muslims cut on girls?

Or the aborigines cut on girls?

Or do you have sexist double standards?

There is no humor in the degradation and pain and mutilation of an innocent child.

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Dec 31, 2022·edited Dec 31, 2022

First, are you a parent? Second, If so, have you made any decisions regarding your child(ren) without their consent? Thirdly, Conflating the removal of a foreskin as equally important as the movement by the globalist pyramid cap to install a technocratic tyranny and 'their' desires to de populate humans and to totally control the lives of the remaining is a real stretch of reality. Also conflating the sexual aspect of female 'circumcision' is not a comparison at all to male circumcision so no double standard is involved. The female form being abhorrent to anyone who truly cares about girls and women and their life experiences!

If you feel that the removal of the foreskin on a male is all about degradation, pain and mutilation then by all means you do you, after deep internal insight on any programmed bias you may have internalized, as to any decision making you undertake for any male or female child you may be the parent or legal guardian of. Other parents/guardians may decide otherwise. As in to'vaxx' or not? Do you wish to abrogate their right to make informed decisions regarding children in their care? That would be a very slippery slope with safeguards too easily abrogated by authoritarians for or against any informed parental decision making regarding their children and to guide them as they mature. Hopefully by installing critical thinking skills, principles, boundaries and morals that will see them better able to navigate their lives and make good judgement calls on the world experience they live in. They may in turn agree or not with your position on male circumcision.

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MGM and FGM are comparable.

See my other comment on that in this thread.

It's not a life saving procedure.

It's his penis.

It's not healthcare.

It's American ignorance and profiteering.

And you're just trying to trivialize this by bringing up other global issues.

An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

Boys deserve the same protections girls have.

Parents should not have the right to cosmetically alter any part of their child's body.

Look at the links that I posted in my other comments on this page.

It's disgusting. No parent has that right, morally, to do this. It's unethical.

Europeans cringe at this American mutilation of baby boys.

And Europe has far better sexual health outcomes too. All in the links I posted.

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We will have to agree to disagree. I could write another rebuttal but I have more important issues than this that I am deeply involved in and find this conversation will just e.a.t. energy, attention and time to absolutely no positive conclusion for either of us.

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You still feel entitled to your son's penis as if you own him and his body?

You're in an American marketing bubble.

Europeans look upon the USA with disdain and horror at this behavior.

Baby boys deserve better.

To remove healthy tissue from someone's body is mutilation.

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Message 2: General Overview Message

Circumcision - the genital mutilation of boys violates all bioethics - just like the jab mandates, and the jab itself being promoted on shoddy science, statistical manipulation, and poor study design...on purpose...

Circumcision, male genital mutilation, is not a life saving procedure - the foreskin is healthy, protective, erogenous tissue.

Therefore, the "procedure" is damaging, a violation of human rights, and legalized and culturally normalized torture.

The article below from Doctors Opposing Circumcision outlines the human rights violation in greater detail.

https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/human-rights/

"First do no harm".

They love the money, though, and the average American can't grapple with the uncomfortable fact that this is wrong because it either happened to them or they did it to their son(s) or both.

Men that live with their entire penises never opt to mutilate themselves because it's an inferior option.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIZ9tgpNSydo3RjOOv4RU4-ZwLCZ3SVWv

The above video series speaks about the sexual function of the foreskin and the intact penis as a whole.

Here are more links on the missing elements of sexual function.

https://www.foregen.org/the-human-foreskin

http://www.savingsons.org/2015/09/foreskin-and-its-16-functions-not-just.html

https://circumcision.org/functions-of-the-foreskin/

This is what mutilated men and their partners are missing out on.

We just don't give boys a chance, baby boys cannot consent - and they won't "consciously remember"...so strap them down to a circumstraint table and start chopping away, right?

Then those boys that grow into adults make jokes about European men and their intact penises, they get defensive and angry when the topic is attempted to be discussed in a serious manner, instead of using crass humor to pave over what lies beneath - a violation of the body, pain, sexual diminishment, profiteering off of their body (foreskin harvesting, and the profit made from the "procedure" itself), etc...

American liberty and freedom? What a joke.

Our great old USA country has been selling foreskin to biotech companies to do all sorts of testing.

Look up HFF, human foreskin fibroblast.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2051415818761526

Look you can buy baby foreskin fibroblast online - a vial of it....

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/mm/scc058

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c14030

Harvesting baby boys' genital tissue, healthy, erogenous tissue for profit - is that freedom? Disgusting.

"The foreskin has important sexual nerve receptors that are removed during circumcision.[9][1][15][27] Circumcision removes the most sensitive part of a man's penis. The five most sensitive areas of the penis are on the foreskin. The transitional region from the external to the internal foreskin is the most sensitive region of the fully intact penis, and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis.[28]"

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Foreskin_sensitivity

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17378847/

Circumcision is a disgusting and torturous scam and it removes 15 square inches of densely innervated erogenous tissue (as an adult that is what the foreskin grows into, size wise).

Here is a video playlist on the functions of the intact male genitalia.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIZ9tgpNSydo3RjOOv4RU4-ZwLCZ3SVWv

Companies like SkinMedica love to use foreskin of baby boys in their products.

Look up Sandra Bullock Penis Facial on YouTube - they laugh about rubbing baby boy genital cream on their faces for their vain youth. Like old witches that eat babies to stay young, like Blood Mary.....All the old folktales of witches and vampires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY2aOHQlAco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7RbRauVkjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9crlnNDcTA

Any of you that know of the lies of the MRNA SHOT - yet, think genital mutilation is okay...you're still blind - just like a lot of those that think the jab is "safe and effective"...

Fauci and Bill Gates love genital mutilation - they have spent millions of dollars mutilating boys in Africa!

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

The same men who spearheaded this death campaign of the jab, actively have supported genital mutilation.

Healthy baby boys are not good candidates for surgery.

The foreskin is healthy erogenous tissue that protects the head of the penis - and the majority of nerve endings are in the foreskin - the majority of pleasure comes from the foreskin.

Generations and generations of mutilated men in the USA - where's the critical thinking? The liberty? The freedom?

I recommend the documentary, The American Circumcision on Amazon Video, or the presentation on YouTube, Circumcision: The Elephant in the Room.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07DWBSFH4/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceht-3xu84I

They've been profiting hundreds of millions a year on baby boy genitals - and advancing their research to bring you all the technologies that will destroy and oppress people.

I wish Americans would really realize how they failed when it came to be fooled that circumcision was "medicine" and had any kind of "benefit" at all...

Another good book is: Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma, By Dr. Ronald Goldman.

https://a.co/9vjCdUH

A video playlist of Dr. Ronald Goldman addressing this issue - the psychological damages and emotional avoidance of those affected by this violation.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmrnvFzPoEloNFlh1lNKzig41vqprZnoc

Doctors Opposing Circumcision Video Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBC354EC34E141BD3

The president of Doctors Opposing Circumcision​ delivers a somber appeal to the American people: "Circumcision is unconstitutional... To do this to an infant is an atrocity, a savage, brutal act.... This tragic practice, cutting the genitals of children, is an epidemic." ~Dr. George Denniston

Intact America is also a good website.

https://intactamerica.org/

"Immediately prior to the training, I remember a blond-haired resident giddy with excitement at being able to learn the procedure, and vividly recall her saying: “Have the nursing staff line the boys up. Go Chop! Chop! Chop! Think of all the RVUs you can make??” RVU stands for Relative Value Unit, which is a figure used for compensation. Obviously, her main concern was the amount of money that could be generated by sexually maiming newborn boys in the name of profit. "

https://intactamerica.org/https-intactamerica-org-voices-james-verrees-2/

Also, Foregen is the name of a biotech company that is seeking to regrow foreskins in labs (no involvement of stem cells from babies or anything unethical like that) - with the patient's own body cells. They're almost in phase 3 of 3 human trials on April 1st 2023, and it will last for 1 year. I can't wait for men to start gaining full sexual function and feeling back.

https://www.foregen.org/

Spread the word. Americans have been whoring out their boys for big pharma profit and mutilating them in a brainwashed fashion for decades. Search within your heart.

Medical freedom means ending genital mutilation. It's his penis, not society's penis or his parent's penis.

If you did this to your son or it happened to you, process the emotions, grapple with the issue, and evolve. Don't chronically beat yourself up about it, forgive yourself - we all get fooled some of the time.

Message 3: Circumcision is Not “Necessary”

Very, very rarely is circumcision medically "necessary".

Studies out of Spain showed something like 0.01% of males needed circumcision due to medical necessity. Infections, like balanitis, are rare and can be treated with oral antibiotics, like an ear infection. For reference around 46% of infants will have an ear infection by age 1.

Honestly, that number can be reduced to zero. Zero "needed" circumcisions if proper intact penis care is used.

The only exception might be rare congenital birth defects and only sometimes is it even the necessary.

USA people have more issues with natural penis because they don't know that the foreskin is adhered to the glans at birth, so they try to pull it back and it causes injury and pain, the same adhering like the fingernail to the finger. This causes injury and higher likelihood of infection and formation of scar tissue which reduced elasticity.

This is called a forcible retraction and doctors have been successfully sued. Look at the website doctors opposing circumcision for more info on forcible retraction malpractice.

USA healthcare workers do not get trained that the natural penis is healthy and superior, so they damage the intact boys out of ignorance, to create problems to create demand for mutilation.

Women get antimicrobials for infections, why not for boys, too?

Amputation for infection is medieval idiocy.

Also, USA people don't know that only water should be used to clean a retracted penis under the foreskin...it has a special pH balance like the vagina.

The forcible retraction and the usage of soap all give USA people more complications with natural penis - all borne of ignorance.

Hospitals like money and Americans are trained to do what they're told by the “education system” to appeal to authity figures like doctors and politicians.

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Message 1: The Initial Comment I Made On Your Article on Substack Entitled, “Ethical is as ethical does”. I Have Included the Quote From Your Article in The Beginning of the Comment that I Responded To. Also, I Added Some More Links and Resources to This Comment.

“If you read Maready, you will understand the significance of the crying that engages the fight or flight response and the significance of that for all manner of illnesses caused by the scenes above.

Surely, you can only identify as ethical if you act ethically? I suspect there is a disconnect between how most GPs they see themselves and how they act. Perhaps they think no further than 'I am a doctor, therefore I am an ethical person'. Perhaps their failure to warn patients about the side effects of drugs they prescribe or drugs prescribed for their patients by other doctors / health experts, has no bearing on their self-image as 'ethical' people.

Among other things, the fight or flight response assists with the delivery of the aluminum into the brain. It has especial significance for boys, which I may deal with in another stack, or you could read his book Crooked, which is his best work on the subject."

Traumatizing babies by neglecting them in incubators, giving them multitudes of shots and heel jabs, and yes - mutilating their genitals! All of this puts them into fight or flight and then eventually deep freeze mode, a dissociative state that all mammals go into when they sense they are being harmed and they cannot get away.

This is functional freeze mode, aka, high tone dorsal vagal nervous system activation.

Look at Somatic Experiencing, Somatic Practice, Polyvagal Theory, and more to learn about how we traumatize babies, en masse.

This leads to chronic illness!

Look at the book, "The Body Keeps the Score", anything by Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk, Kathy Kain, Steve Terrell, or Irene Lyon of irenelyon.com for free resources on trauma.

The body encodes and remembers the trauma - even if we cannot consciously recollect the memory!

It is known that the more ACEs (Adverse Childhood Events) - the more chronic illness and lower life expectancy.

Irene Lyon has free resources that I highly recommend!

Here is Irene Lyon’s superb and free introduction course on the different types of trauma! Including preverbal trauma – trauma before you could talk or form conscious memories!

https://irenelyon.com/healing-trauma-freeresources/

All of Irene Lyon’s free resources below.

https://irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/

Seth Lyon, Irene Lyon’s husband, also a somatic practitioner, speaks out about male genital mutilation in the article below.

https://sethlyon.com/powerful-roots-porn-addiction-can/

A quote from the above article when Seth Lyon speaks about the preverbal trauma of circumcision.

“Underneath all that, I was circumcised – an incredibly traumatic experience which linked violence and violation with the sexual organs in the somatic unconscious, and also established an unconscious hatred of the feminine because my mother did not protect me from that experience, and was reinforced by my isolation and separation from her in an incubator due to being born six weeks premature.”

More links on trauma.

"Neonatal male circumcision is associated with altered adult socio-affective processing"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33299934/

Circumcised boys show many symptoms of PTSD, too - I'll look for this study - I read it in the book, "Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma", by Dr. Ronald Goldman.

Fight or flight amygdala autism connection.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/amygdala-the-brains-threat-detector-has-broad-roles-in-autism/

Fight or flight makes the blood brain barrier more permeable, leading to more heavy metal deposits in the brain - another way to understand why boys are more likely to be autistic.

Jeanice Barcelo - an expert on the medical systems role in traumatizing baby boys and girls - affecting these new humans for their entire life if they do not become aware of their trauma and seek intervention through Somatic Experiencing, and other modalities.

https://birthofanewearth.com/

A podcast with Jeanice as a guest on the Luke Storey podcast.

https://www.lukestorey.com/lifestylistpodcast/ending-infant-trauma-dangers-of-hospital-birth-ultrasound-circumcision-w/-jeanice-barcelo-308

"The War Against Boys: Ending The Torture Of Circumcision In America #192"

https://www.lukestorey.com/lifestylist-podcast-videos/2018/11/27/next-level-biohacking-and-beyond-with-dr-darshan-shah-176-ja8ad-9w72c-arjhk-65ajg-66ptz-tl3mk-ewnrr-mabr9-x8eyx-pmpyc-4f857-pzegr?rq=Circumcision

"Passion Meets Pleasure: The Ultimate Sex Episode With Kim Anami #186

men’s sex lives. The travesty of male circumcision and how men can heal from what was forced on them at …"

https://www.lukestorey.com/lifestylist-podcast-videos/2018/11/27/next-level-biohacking-and-beyond-with-dr-darshan-shah-176-ja8ad-9w72c-arjhk-65ajg-66ptz-tl3mk-ewnrr?rq=Circumcision

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I got as far as your posturing that to be ethical you must act ethically....one person ethics may not be another's over a wide variety of issues with no right or wrong as viewed under Natural Law, often called God's Law. Setting oneself or someone up as the arbiter of all that is good and right against what is evil and wrong is the recipe for demagogues and all the disasters that come from slippery slopes. As you feel so religiously fanatical about foreskins I suggest that you do you and as this is NOT a matter of heaven and hell I'll do me.

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Yes, I, too, would like the ladies to chime in.

Recalling an episode of "Northern Exposure" in the '80s: Turtleneck or crew?

Have scant experience with turtleneck and abundance of crew, I choose crew for style and comfort. That said, I wonder the rates of male porn and turtlenecks. I really don't know and will not ever but I would guess it reflects similar rates as airbrushed vs. natural.

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Ah so you fetishize mutilated men that had their rights violated.

You know, there are men in Africa that refuse to marry uncircumcised women because their culture believes they are "dirty"...

You're being just like them.

Stop fetishizing a human rights violation.

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Dec 30, 2022·edited Dec 30, 2022

Amy has a sense of humor but the bragging about 'abundance' makes the rest of us feel like lesser beings...lol. Yes I know that abundance could be many times with the same partner or just a few....or the extravaganza of a tell all that would make us all be jealous.

Anyway one vote for the crew necked....Yes!

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