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There is a societal principles hole, and it has always been there. It is the defining characteristic of domination cultures, or civilisations if you like. How can a society be built on hoarding, greed, theft and the destruction of nature and somehow also have principles? Religion has absolutely nothing to do with it either way; in the old days religion was used to justify mans 'dominion' over nature, now it's amoral science. the only difference is that science is much better at doing it.

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