"The FDA has become an arm of industry and no longer puts public safety first." Too true, I have had all I can take on the subject. I finally lost it at the grocery store, looking at a label that said "the FDA says there is no difference between cows treated with Rbst or Rgbh and cows not treated with Rgbh." I just started muttering to myself like a mad woman. I was telling passerby's how crazy the FDA was and they were looking at me like "okay....."
I can't take it anymore. So, I looked up the website you mentioned for One Kilo Club. You can't get to it anymore. You get a 404 this site can't be reached. WOW, big shocker.
Were you there recently? I wanted to look at that poem.
I did direct quotes to find it and couldn't find it. The only other hits were your stack and a site called the Hystersisters which is a forum for women to talk about what they are going through. They called one of their forums the One Kilo Club so that google would point to that page.
I am curious to know if you get any crap from anyone for writing about this. Thanks for this. I had no idea. I mean I have an IDEA. I know WHO we are dealing with. We need to do things I will not mention here, but I am sending you telepathy on how we should deal with THEM.
This is sickening. I have known so many women who have gone through this too. How terrifying, trusting the medical establishment. Don't do it. Need an arm put back together, fine. If you have ongoing problems though, the medical industry is the last place to land.
Run for the hills.
The other hit for the one Kilo club was the Dr. Pelosi medical center. It says in the intro that they started the one kilo club and it lists the onkiloclub.org website but you can't look at it. I wonder why. And I wonder when. Was it available when you quoted that poem? I found a picture of the lion with a list of names next to it, as well. And that's all you can find anymore.
No, I haven't been to the site. It was referenced in Coffey's book from the 1980s, which is where I got those passages from. No surprise the butchers took it down.
No, oddly enough I haven't gotten crap from anyone while on this hysterectomy journey.
I'm just stunned that this story even exists and it's a thing and that there are 10s of MILLIONS (maybe 1 or 2 hundred million??) of women all over the world who have been butchered like this, and half of them have had their ovaries removed...which means they are technically eunuchs.
How that hell did we get here?
My idea of psychopathy pre covid was Dexter, I now realize there are many many levels of psychopathy way above that.
Wow, you are so right. Of course it came from a book, that makes sense. I am glad you aren't getting crap from anyone on the topic. What you said about psychopathy gives me a shiver because it is SO true. Thank you for sharing this information. I had never run across it before. I will share it with others if the subject comes up.
Thank you for writing about this. I've literally never heard this perspective before. I was coerced into getting an ablation years ago for extremely heavy bleeding. I didn't want to do it. I wasn't the type to do anything like that but I was told that it was totally safe and harmless. Luckily I didn't suffer ill consequences. In the place I am now (with more knowledge and also trusting myself way more), I would never make that kind of decision again. It is so wrong that 'they' continually push these procedures without sharing the potential risks properly. I feel lucky that I dodged the hysterectomy bullet. I was massively pressured into doing that as well, by my doctors, my family and some of my friends.
Very much the same as my story. The procedure went well and spared me days of cramping and heavy periods every month. No complaints. But if I'd known 20 years ago what I know now, I would never have taken the chance.
Before my full Hysrectomy, a Lap surgery was done to remove Adhesions, they didn't remove the Cyst or Fibroids, What did they do to remove the Adhesions? The Lap surgery was mandatory at the time. PAIN was back in weeks, as was the excessive bleeding at the time of menses, I was already at the near end of my fertility and had my Tubes tied with my 4th child, my 2nd C-Section, done the old way. I didn't want to end up like my mom, with late-in-life miscarriages after miscarriages. The last one she hit she was 5 months, and the baby died. The Catholic hospitals in the area would not allow terminating what would have been a life-threatening Sepsis issue. 5 pints of blood were needed, when I found her bleeding out in the bathroom as a teen—landlines back then, no 911 either. I didn't know what to do, thank God my adult neighbor did.
I gave up being a GP 20yrs ago to have my three children. I tell people that I learnt two things from being a doctor- first, never be a patient, and second, never take anything new ( like a covid injection for instance)! Everything you’ve detailed in these posts confirms that.
The many symptoms experienced by women after these procedures are exactly the same as menopausal symptoms, only more sudden and severe. Have you looked into HRT in general? In the U.K. it is now fairly standard to be offered body identical oestrogen and progesterone ( if you can find an educated GP who doesn’t think HRT is dangerous because they haven’t understood all the faults with the WHI study) but there is a postcode lottery for getting the third and vital hormone, testosterone. Watch Dr Louise Newson’s YouTube videos on testosterone to see how lack of it can be so debilitating.
It seems that if something is good for you- replacing natural hormones, vitamin D, etc. then the system does not want to let you have it. If something is bad for you -covid injections, statins etc then the system will try and penalise you for not having it.
If a kind looking person in a lab coat and glasses wants to viciously attack my vital organs, who am I to protest? I’m far to dumb to assess risk and process information. I’ll just go ahead and do as I am told.
I think I understand what the person intended. I also have also felt frustrated with being treated as though I cannot think about the options properly myself and should just do what the expert says.
I had a young male gynocologist try to push this ablation on me over 10 years ago for heavy periods. He literally pursued me, calling me outside of appointments to encourage me to have him perform it on me. I was like I only have another 10 years of this and I have put up with this already for so long so why would I do this and lose my ability to feel what is going on in my uterus. I knew he just wanted experience and compensation for the ablation. I dropped him as my doctor. No regrets about my decision.
The medical cartel is looking more and more like the Tower of London where novel sadistic practices are performed as a matter of normality. How sick is the whole idea of taking body parts out. It's like the medical "profession" knows nothing of the body, it just seems to lust over torture techniques, the more bizarre the better. It's like they don't even give a thought to a person occupying that body, they're merely an object to be tinkered with like a radio or Tonker Truck.
Although I've had 3 internal organs removed 😕 in my younger days, I've NOW come to realize that God didn't create anything inside us to be "optional". Every organ has a purpose and removing one to "alieve symptoms" surely will cause other issues in the future; of course, some of that is remedied by the addition of longterm or life long pharmaceuticals. I wish I'd realized that when an organ is "out of whack", that's a signal telling us to FIX that condition! And doing so is far more beneficial than taking out the "offending" organ. It's like pulling a tooth because it has a cavity. Sooner or later, you're not going to be able to eat properly. Preventing getting cavities in the first place is paramount.
More and more people are coming to the same realization as you. It is so scary how prevalent the medical profession whips things out of human bodies. It's like a Jack the Ripper mentality. Absolutely zero respect or reverence for the body. And the same with prescribing "antibiotics", that is a huge admission of being "anti life" because that's exactly what the word means! Stay healthy!
Two of my surgeries were "emergencies" and I was given no other alternative but to "take it out". No discussion of treatment or even afterwards, what could've caused it. My first surgery (hysterectomy) wasn't an emergency but since my mom, my sisters and my nieces all had hysterectomies in their late 20s-early 30s, I just didn't question it. It was a running joke in my family that our baby-makers didn't have very much of a warranty. I used to think it was kinda funny, now I think it's just sad. 😢
That is so common that they whip you in without thinking because they scare you into thinking it is an emergency. One of my "uncles in law" was in the second world war and he had gangrene in his arm. His parents refused surgery for him so he was put into what sounded like an underground dungeon the way he explained it, with other men put there to die who were howling with pain. But his gangrene went away and he ended up ok. When we recounted this story, he showed us a kind of long crater in his arm but really nothing horrid at all. So our bodies can recover from just about anything. But our beliefs cause us to give up or give in and this is what the medical cartels try to get us to do. I hope the hysterectomy didn't cause you any lingering side effects.
So what options do women have? My daughter has had issues with horrible monthly pain, irregular menstrual cycles, and she is now 32 and hoping she will be able to get pregnant. She is going to go in as the Dr thinks she has endometriosis…what options are there that won’t end up with a hysterectomy in the end?
Thank you to everyone who responded. I no longer trust the medical establishment and I am thankful that I was aware enough March 2020 to question what was happening. This sub stack and the information has been invaluable.
Participants: Thirty-seven menstruating women, aged 24 to 45 years, with palpable uterine fibroids, and their matched controls, who were enrolled in conventional treatment.
Intervention: The treatment program consisted of weekly traditional Chinese medicine, body therapy (somatic therapy, bodywork), and guided imagery. Treatment lasted as long as 6 months.
Main outcome measures: Changes in fibroid size, changes in bothersome symptoms, and patient satisfaction.
Results: Fibroids shrank or stopped growing in 22 patients among the treatment group and 3 among the comparison group (P <.01). Cost of care averaged $3800 per patient in the treatment group and was significantly greater than costs for the comparison group for the study period. Bothersome symptoms of fibroids responded equally well to pharmacological or nonpharmacological therapies. All measures of patient satisfaction were significantly higher among the treatment group compared to those receiving conventional care.
This sounds like me... except I never had a hysterectomy. I wonder if hormone changes trigger clinical depression, or it activates EBV somehow, just a thought.
This is all beginning to make me think of that commercial…. What is it, for ants, bugs ? ….”They go in but they don’t come out,” something…. Endometrial ablation, Remdesivir, whoops! removed the wrong leg, whatever…..sorreee! Assembly line….Whatever you do, don’t close your eyes when you go into surgery….. guess not very funny…….sign in invisible ink?! OMG
Endometrial hyperplasia is a precancerous condition, but about 40% of the time, when they do the actual surgery to remove the uterus for this condition, cancer is present. It’s much better in my opinion, especially in a post menopausal woman who is done with childbearing, to do hysterectomy than to “ablate” and potentially cause worse problems or miss a cancer that then progresses to a life-threatening condition.
I want to add, “endometrial hyperplasia WITH ATYPIA” is the concerning condition, not just endometrial hyperplasia alone. If no atypia is found, then preserve the uterus in a pre menopausal women for sure. If atypia is found, then 40% of the time when pathology results come back, there is also cancer present.
Here is a medpage article I had saved on the topic:
Endometrial ablation. Risks. Overprescribed. Hysterectomies often follow and are dangerous too. Some when not appropriate. Perforations, sepsis, labor pains, death.
"The FDA has become an arm of industry and no longer puts public safety first." Too true, I have had all I can take on the subject. I finally lost it at the grocery store, looking at a label that said "the FDA says there is no difference between cows treated with Rbst or Rgbh and cows not treated with Rgbh." I just started muttering to myself like a mad woman. I was telling passerby's how crazy the FDA was and they were looking at me like "okay....."
I can't take it anymore. So, I looked up the website you mentioned for One Kilo Club. You can't get to it anymore. You get a 404 this site can't be reached. WOW, big shocker.
Were you there recently? I wanted to look at that poem.
I did direct quotes to find it and couldn't find it. The only other hits were your stack and a site called the Hystersisters which is a forum for women to talk about what they are going through. They called one of their forums the One Kilo Club so that google would point to that page.
I am curious to know if you get any crap from anyone for writing about this. Thanks for this. I had no idea. I mean I have an IDEA. I know WHO we are dealing with. We need to do things I will not mention here, but I am sending you telepathy on how we should deal with THEM.
This is sickening. I have known so many women who have gone through this too. How terrifying, trusting the medical establishment. Don't do it. Need an arm put back together, fine. If you have ongoing problems though, the medical industry is the last place to land.
Run for the hills.
The other hit for the one Kilo club was the Dr. Pelosi medical center. It says in the intro that they started the one kilo club and it lists the onkiloclub.org website but you can't look at it. I wonder why. And I wonder when. Was it available when you quoted that poem? I found a picture of the lion with a list of names next to it, as well. And that's all you can find anymore.
No, I haven't been to the site. It was referenced in Coffey's book from the 1980s, which is where I got those passages from. No surprise the butchers took it down.
No, oddly enough I haven't gotten crap from anyone while on this hysterectomy journey.
I'm just stunned that this story even exists and it's a thing and that there are 10s of MILLIONS (maybe 1 or 2 hundred million??) of women all over the world who have been butchered like this, and half of them have had their ovaries removed...which means they are technically eunuchs.
How that hell did we get here?
My idea of psychopathy pre covid was Dexter, I now realize there are many many levels of psychopathy way above that.
Wow, you are so right. Of course it came from a book, that makes sense. I am glad you aren't getting crap from anyone on the topic. What you said about psychopathy gives me a shiver because it is SO true. Thank you for sharing this information. I had never run across it before. I will share it with others if the subject comes up.
Thank you for writing about this. I've literally never heard this perspective before. I was coerced into getting an ablation years ago for extremely heavy bleeding. I didn't want to do it. I wasn't the type to do anything like that but I was told that it was totally safe and harmless. Luckily I didn't suffer ill consequences. In the place I am now (with more knowledge and also trusting myself way more), I would never make that kind of decision again. It is so wrong that 'they' continually push these procedures without sharing the potential risks properly. I feel lucky that I dodged the hysterectomy bullet. I was massively pressured into doing that as well, by my doctors, my family and some of my friends.
Very much the same as my story. The procedure went well and spared me days of cramping and heavy periods every month. No complaints. But if I'd known 20 years ago what I know now, I would never have taken the chance.
Before my full Hysrectomy, a Lap surgery was done to remove Adhesions, they didn't remove the Cyst or Fibroids, What did they do to remove the Adhesions? The Lap surgery was mandatory at the time. PAIN was back in weeks, as was the excessive bleeding at the time of menses, I was already at the near end of my fertility and had my Tubes tied with my 4th child, my 2nd C-Section, done the old way. I didn't want to end up like my mom, with late-in-life miscarriages after miscarriages. The last one she hit she was 5 months, and the baby died. The Catholic hospitals in the area would not allow terminating what would have been a life-threatening Sepsis issue. 5 pints of blood were needed, when I found her bleeding out in the bathroom as a teen—landlines back then, no 911 either. I didn't know what to do, thank God my adult neighbor did.
I gave up being a GP 20yrs ago to have my three children. I tell people that I learnt two things from being a doctor- first, never be a patient, and second, never take anything new ( like a covid injection for instance)! Everything you’ve detailed in these posts confirms that.
The many symptoms experienced by women after these procedures are exactly the same as menopausal symptoms, only more sudden and severe. Have you looked into HRT in general? In the U.K. it is now fairly standard to be offered body identical oestrogen and progesterone ( if you can find an educated GP who doesn’t think HRT is dangerous because they haven’t understood all the faults with the WHI study) but there is a postcode lottery for getting the third and vital hormone, testosterone. Watch Dr Louise Newson’s YouTube videos on testosterone to see how lack of it can be so debilitating.
It seems that if something is good for you- replacing natural hormones, vitamin D, etc. then the system does not want to let you have it. If something is bad for you -covid injections, statins etc then the system will try and penalise you for not having it.
Tortures redefined.
If a kind looking person in a lab coat and glasses wants to viciously attack my vital organs, who am I to protest? I’m far to dumb to assess risk and process information. I’ll just go ahead and do as I am told.
I think I understand what the person intended. I also have also felt frustrated with being treated as though I cannot think about the options properly myself and should just do what the expert says.
I’ve had 15 gynecological surgeries in my life ..
I had a young male gynocologist try to push this ablation on me over 10 years ago for heavy periods. He literally pursued me, calling me outside of appointments to encourage me to have him perform it on me. I was like I only have another 10 years of this and I have put up with this already for so long so why would I do this and lose my ability to feel what is going on in my uterus. I knew he just wanted experience and compensation for the ablation. I dropped him as my doctor. No regrets about my decision.
😭💔🙏♥️
What do you think when considering your experience and the article?
The medical cartel is looking more and more like the Tower of London where novel sadistic practices are performed as a matter of normality. How sick is the whole idea of taking body parts out. It's like the medical "profession" knows nothing of the body, it just seems to lust over torture techniques, the more bizarre the better. It's like they don't even give a thought to a person occupying that body, they're merely an object to be tinkered with like a radio or Tonker Truck.
Although I've had 3 internal organs removed 😕 in my younger days, I've NOW come to realize that God didn't create anything inside us to be "optional". Every organ has a purpose and removing one to "alieve symptoms" surely will cause other issues in the future; of course, some of that is remedied by the addition of longterm or life long pharmaceuticals. I wish I'd realized that when an organ is "out of whack", that's a signal telling us to FIX that condition! And doing so is far more beneficial than taking out the "offending" organ. It's like pulling a tooth because it has a cavity. Sooner or later, you're not going to be able to eat properly. Preventing getting cavities in the first place is paramount.
More and more people are coming to the same realization as you. It is so scary how prevalent the medical profession whips things out of human bodies. It's like a Jack the Ripper mentality. Absolutely zero respect or reverence for the body. And the same with prescribing "antibiotics", that is a huge admission of being "anti life" because that's exactly what the word means! Stay healthy!
Two of my surgeries were "emergencies" and I was given no other alternative but to "take it out". No discussion of treatment or even afterwards, what could've caused it. My first surgery (hysterectomy) wasn't an emergency but since my mom, my sisters and my nieces all had hysterectomies in their late 20s-early 30s, I just didn't question it. It was a running joke in my family that our baby-makers didn't have very much of a warranty. I used to think it was kinda funny, now I think it's just sad. 😢
That is so common that they whip you in without thinking because they scare you into thinking it is an emergency. One of my "uncles in law" was in the second world war and he had gangrene in his arm. His parents refused surgery for him so he was put into what sounded like an underground dungeon the way he explained it, with other men put there to die who were howling with pain. But his gangrene went away and he ended up ok. When we recounted this story, he showed us a kind of long crater in his arm but really nothing horrid at all. So our bodies can recover from just about anything. But our beliefs cause us to give up or give in and this is what the medical cartels try to get us to do. I hope the hysterectomy didn't cause you any lingering side effects.
These articles on this topic are so useful. I am saving them all.
So what options do women have? My daughter has had issues with horrible monthly pain, irregular menstrual cycles, and she is now 32 and hoping she will be able to get pregnant. She is going to go in as the Dr thinks she has endometriosis…what options are there that won’t end up with a hysterectomy in the end?
This might be helpful.
https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/beyond-surgery
Thank you to everyone who responded. I no longer trust the medical establishment and I am thankful that I was aware enough March 2020 to question what was happening. This sub stack and the information has been invaluable.
Greenmedinfo has a database of research and studies of natural treatments. You could try searching that.
I did see an example of treating fibroids, which many women have and can have similarities to what your daughter might be experiencing:
Complementary medicine treatment of uterine fibroids: a pilot study
Lewis Mehl-Madrona. Altern Ther Health Med. 2002 Mar-Apr.
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Altern Ther Health Med
. 2002 Mar-Apr;8(2):34-6, 38-40, 42, 44-6.
Author
Lewis Mehl-Madrona 1
Affiliation
• 1Program in Integrative Medicine of the University of Arizona in Tucson, USA.
• https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11890384/
Participants: Thirty-seven menstruating women, aged 24 to 45 years, with palpable uterine fibroids, and their matched controls, who were enrolled in conventional treatment.
Intervention: The treatment program consisted of weekly traditional Chinese medicine, body therapy (somatic therapy, bodywork), and guided imagery. Treatment lasted as long as 6 months.
Main outcome measures: Changes in fibroid size, changes in bothersome symptoms, and patient satisfaction.
Results: Fibroids shrank or stopped growing in 22 patients among the treatment group and 3 among the comparison group (P <.01). Cost of care averaged $3800 per patient in the treatment group and was significantly greater than costs for the comparison group for the study period. Bothersome symptoms of fibroids responded equally well to pharmacological or nonpharmacological therapies. All measures of patient satisfaction were significantly higher among the treatment group compared to those receiving conventional care.
😪🙏
This sounds like me... except I never had a hysterectomy. I wonder if hormone changes trigger clinical depression, or it activates EBV somehow, just a thought.
This is all beginning to make me think of that commercial…. What is it, for ants, bugs ? ….”They go in but they don’t come out,” something…. Endometrial ablation, Remdesivir, whoops! removed the wrong leg, whatever…..sorreee! Assembly line….Whatever you do, don’t close your eyes when you go into surgery….. guess not very funny…….sign in invisible ink?! OMG
Modern medicine compares with ancient torture chambers.
Endometrial hyperplasia is a precancerous condition, but about 40% of the time, when they do the actual surgery to remove the uterus for this condition, cancer is present. It’s much better in my opinion, especially in a post menopausal woman who is done with childbearing, to do hysterectomy than to “ablate” and potentially cause worse problems or miss a cancer that then progresses to a life-threatening condition.
I want to add, “endometrial hyperplasia WITH ATYPIA” is the concerning condition, not just endometrial hyperplasia alone. If no atypia is found, then preserve the uterus in a pre menopausal women for sure. If atypia is found, then 40% of the time when pathology results come back, there is also cancer present.
😞😞😞😭😭😭😭😭
Here is a medpage article I had saved on the topic:
Endometrial ablation. Risks. Overprescribed. Hysterectomies often follow and are dangerous too. Some when not appropriate. Perforations, sepsis, labor pains, death.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/85088