What a great thing to wake up to, and the morning after Christmas! :)
It is a fantastic theory for sure, and the gatekeepers of the academic community treated him most cruelly for it up until his death in the 70s. Big surprise. And yet, numerous claims of his have since been validated as pointed out in the book "The Velikovsky Heresies" by Laird Scranton, a former skeptic.
I think the most significant bulk of evidence to support the validity of these wild claims are the ancient collective descriptions of the planets physical characteristics, vastly contrasting to our modern lack of ability to identify Jupiter or Mars from the other points of light in the night sky. For example, Mars was described as "Scar Face" by a tribe of Indians. How could they tell? Also, Mars was described as the war-god in his chariot pulled by his two flaming steeds. I didn't know about these satellites until reading this book. How did the ancients know Saturn had rings (which they described as "bonds")?
The myths of the ancients were the accounts of actual celestial events. Velikovsky says,
"[T]he ancient mythologies of the Chaldeans, the Greeks, the Romans, the Hindus, the Mayans, preoccupy themselves not with the Sun or the Moon, but prima facie with the planets. Marduk, the great god of the Babylonians, was the planet Jupiter; so was Amon of the Egyptians, Zeus of the Greeks and Jupiter of the Romans.(1) It was much superior to Shamash-Helios, the Sun. Why was it revered by all peoples? Why was the planet Mars chosen to be the personification of the god of war? Why did Kronos of the Greeks, Saturn of the Romans, play a part in hundreds of myths and legends? Thoth of the Egyptians, Nebo and Nergal of the Babylonians, Mithra and Mazda of the Persians, Vishnu and Shiva of the Hindus, Huitzilopochtli and Quetzalcoatl of the Mexicans, were personifications of planets; innumerable hymns were dedicated to them and adventures and exploits ascribed to them. [...] The planets were not affiliated to the gods, or symbols of the gods—they *were* the gods."*
Love Velikovsky. Love this book. This has become my Bible. What a brilliant man! I think if anyone wants to understand anything, this is where to start. We are headed for another cataclysmic earth-changing event soon. Two years, twenty years, no human knows when. Flash of Light followed by darkness. Just like preceded the flood. Stay tuned.
Yeah. I've been drowning in Covid information, so I thought I'd get away from it and enlarge my horizons by studying something new! Cosmology, ancient history, world religions - you know, light reading! :)
Megalithic sites are a fascination with me. I have been to Stonehenge, Malta, many stone circles, etc., etc. I was able to measure differences in chemical reactivity of water placed in libation bowls in ancient temples, one of which was in the form of an anatomically accurate female reproductive tract said to be Phoenician (I think it's much older). There are numerous rock carvings and so-called 'cart tracks' (Identical to those of Malta) in the Azores which are a prehistoric mystery. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2014/02/the-mysterious-cart-tracks-of-malta.html
Many of the stick man carvings in the Azores mimic what Wallace Thornhill says are depictions of plasmas during the great celestial catastrophe.
I picked up this book for the first time in 2020, it had been in my family bookshelf since the 80's. A lot of it was hard to grasp, but really caused a change in my thinking, especially questioning everything a lot more.
Yup. I've been looking at this... Things are not what we've been programmed to believe. How far away is anything? How big is Antarctica? Who really lives there? What's going on there? ETs are from Antarctica, not outer space? The Garden of Eden was inside the earth?
Total respect for a man who spent his entire life in a quest. Way, way above my pay grade to say nothing of intellectual acuity needed to do so. Having found such great inconsistencies, down right lies coming from AI, CGI, aka NASA today, satellites, firmaments being folklore, curvature I have never seen, outer space being X amount of miles away yet StarLink is the answer by a self proclaimed genius, and now into Greek mythology (total admission of fairy tales) interpreting The Old Testament written by jews about jews for jews, are not valid arguments for someone like myself, who's questions go unanswered in this total false narrative we call life on Earth, so far removed from reality. Sorry, not believing a word of this.
I write about Catastrophism in some substacks at https://funday.createaforum.com/improve/sub/msg538/#msg538. The Saturn Theory originated with Velikovsky, but the main researchers after him have concluded that Velikovsky's dating was wrong, that Venus and Mars clashed before ancient Egypt and Sumeria became civilizations. In fact, they find that the end of the Saturn Configuration inspired civilizations who wanted to bring back the Golden Age of Saturn. I have concluded myself that the Great Flood did occur about 5,200 years ago, which deposited nearly all sedimentary rock on Earth during meteor bombardments that caused tsunamis. Pangaea was all lowland, so it didn't take very big tsunamis to flood all or nearly all of the land. A huge asteroid struck Pangaea just east of Africa, which broke up the supercontinent and caused the formation of mountains and the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. The Ice Age occurred for 700 years after the Flood, then a comet or meteors hit the Ice Sheet and devastated North America and caused rapid melting of the ice sheets with large-scale flooding, but this time there were highlands to escape to. That was the Younger Dryas event. The Golden Age seems to have occurred in lower latitudes at the same time that the Ice Age occurred in higher latitudes. So the second cataclysm may be when the Saturn Configuration broke up, the planets clashed, and then moved to their present orbits.
The Creator is the one who moves the planets around for different reasons. In the mysticism/kabbalah of it all, you can find out things like this on a deeper level. The Creator, Ein Sof, is in control of all things and uses the planets to bring about judgments, etc.
I love Velikovsky. I am very ... slowly... tackling several of his books. He was educated in Russia, France, Scotland, Ukraine, Germany, Palestine, and the U.S. How many languages did he speak?
The Electric Universe people have excellent videos on YouTube. Their books are a bit out of the range of my brain cells. Have to stretch till they pop. They have a video series about Electricity and Light and the Shaping of Biology, which I believe, applies to current events with the Covid Con and the alleged threat of transhumanism, and how DNA really works. Not as we've been led to believe, once again.
There's a guy on YT named Greg Jay. He explores all kind of stuff including Velikovsky and the Electric Universe. I think Velikovsky's books foreshadow what is coming. The cycles of Life and death on Planet Earth. The global warming/climate change narrative is twisted. There are changes both natural and very unnatural, technology-caused. I believe we need to know what is really going on...
What a great thing to wake up to, and the morning after Christmas! :)
It is a fantastic theory for sure, and the gatekeepers of the academic community treated him most cruelly for it up until his death in the 70s. Big surprise. And yet, numerous claims of his have since been validated as pointed out in the book "The Velikovsky Heresies" by Laird Scranton, a former skeptic.
I think the most significant bulk of evidence to support the validity of these wild claims are the ancient collective descriptions of the planets physical characteristics, vastly contrasting to our modern lack of ability to identify Jupiter or Mars from the other points of light in the night sky. For example, Mars was described as "Scar Face" by a tribe of Indians. How could they tell? Also, Mars was described as the war-god in his chariot pulled by his two flaming steeds. I didn't know about these satellites until reading this book. How did the ancients know Saturn had rings (which they described as "bonds")?
The myths of the ancients were the accounts of actual celestial events. Velikovsky says,
"[T]he ancient mythologies of the Chaldeans, the Greeks, the Romans, the Hindus, the Mayans, preoccupy themselves not with the Sun or the Moon, but prima facie with the planets. Marduk, the great god of the Babylonians, was the planet Jupiter; so was Amon of the Egyptians, Zeus of the Greeks and Jupiter of the Romans.(1) It was much superior to Shamash-Helios, the Sun. Why was it revered by all peoples? Why was the planet Mars chosen to be the personification of the god of war? Why did Kronos of the Greeks, Saturn of the Romans, play a part in hundreds of myths and legends? Thoth of the Egyptians, Nebo and Nergal of the Babylonians, Mithra and Mazda of the Persians, Vishnu and Shiva of the Hindus, Huitzilopochtli and Quetzalcoatl of the Mexicans, were personifications of planets; innumerable hymns were dedicated to them and adventures and exploits ascribed to them. [...] The planets were not affiliated to the gods, or symbols of the gods—they *were* the gods."*
* "In the Beginning" which covers the deluge: https://www.varchive.org/itb/deif.htm
Love Velikovsky. Love this book. This has become my Bible. What a brilliant man! I think if anyone wants to understand anything, this is where to start. We are headed for another cataclysmic earth-changing event soon. Two years, twenty years, no human knows when. Flash of Light followed by darkness. Just like preceded the flood. Stay tuned.
And here I was reading Velikovsky to *escape* my tendency to doom scroll. ;)
Yeah. I've been drowning in Covid information, so I thought I'd get away from it and enlarge my horizons by studying something new! Cosmology, ancient history, world religions - you know, light reading! :)
Ha! Exactly.
Get Out of My Head!
I have been listening to the following site for the last 2 days. It is all that my Dad explained in the very early '70's.
https://archive.org/details/rthnpa/Earth+in+Upheaval+by+Immanuel+Velikovsky+(1955)/MP3/76.+The+Ruins+of+the+East.mp3
Here's a link to 7 free, out-of-copyright books by and/or about Immanuel Velikovsky:
https://archive.org/details/vlkvsky/Earth%20in%20Upheaval%20by%20Immanuel%20Velikovsky%20%281955%29/
Megalithic sites are a fascination with me. I have been to Stonehenge, Malta, many stone circles, etc., etc. I was able to measure differences in chemical reactivity of water placed in libation bowls in ancient temples, one of which was in the form of an anatomically accurate female reproductive tract said to be Phoenician (I think it's much older). There are numerous rock carvings and so-called 'cart tracks' (Identical to those of Malta) in the Azores which are a prehistoric mystery. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2014/02/the-mysterious-cart-tracks-of-malta.html
Many of the stick man carvings in the Azores mimic what Wallace Thornhill says are depictions of plasmas during the great celestial catastrophe.
Thank you for the clip of Liam..how lovely...and sad he is no longer with us.
So grateful to have you...
I picked up this book for the first time in 2020, it had been in my family bookshelf since the 80's. A lot of it was hard to grasp, but really caused a change in my thinking, especially questioning everything a lot more.
What if there is no solar system? No planets? Was John Lennon giving the game away when he sang "above us only sky "? 😃
Yup. I've been looking at this... Things are not what we've been programmed to believe. How far away is anything? How big is Antarctica? Who really lives there? What's going on there? ETs are from Antarctica, not outer space? The Garden of Eden was inside the earth?
NASA is Not A Space Agency. :) Cheers!
Space is a racket.
Yes. There are no conspiracies. Just business plans.
Some major secrets are being kept hidden:).
Total respect for a man who spent his entire life in a quest. Way, way above my pay grade to say nothing of intellectual acuity needed to do so. Having found such great inconsistencies, down right lies coming from AI, CGI, aka NASA today, satellites, firmaments being folklore, curvature I have never seen, outer space being X amount of miles away yet StarLink is the answer by a self proclaimed genius, and now into Greek mythology (total admission of fairy tales) interpreting The Old Testament written by jews about jews for jews, are not valid arguments for someone like myself, who's questions go unanswered in this total false narrative we call life on Earth, so far removed from reality. Sorry, not believing a word of this.
is he familar with Eric Dollard "stuff"? same theme
I write about Catastrophism in some substacks at https://funday.createaforum.com/improve/sub/msg538/#msg538. The Saturn Theory originated with Velikovsky, but the main researchers after him have concluded that Velikovsky's dating was wrong, that Venus and Mars clashed before ancient Egypt and Sumeria became civilizations. In fact, they find that the end of the Saturn Configuration inspired civilizations who wanted to bring back the Golden Age of Saturn. I have concluded myself that the Great Flood did occur about 5,200 years ago, which deposited nearly all sedimentary rock on Earth during meteor bombardments that caused tsunamis. Pangaea was all lowland, so it didn't take very big tsunamis to flood all or nearly all of the land. A huge asteroid struck Pangaea just east of Africa, which broke up the supercontinent and caused the formation of mountains and the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. The Ice Age occurred for 700 years after the Flood, then a comet or meteors hit the Ice Sheet and devastated North America and caused rapid melting of the ice sheets with large-scale flooding, but this time there were highlands to escape to. That was the Younger Dryas event. The Golden Age seems to have occurred in lower latitudes at the same time that the Ice Age occurred in higher latitudes. So the second cataclysm may be when the Saturn Configuration broke up, the planets clashed, and then moved to their present orbits.
PS, I welcome collaboration.
The Creator is the one who moves the planets around for different reasons. In the mysticism/kabbalah of it all, you can find out things like this on a deeper level. The Creator, Ein Sof, is in control of all things and uses the planets to bring about judgments, etc.
Thanks for this.
I love Velikovsky. I am very ... slowly... tackling several of his books. He was educated in Russia, France, Scotland, Ukraine, Germany, Palestine, and the U.S. How many languages did he speak?
The Electric Universe people have excellent videos on YouTube. Their books are a bit out of the range of my brain cells. Have to stretch till they pop. They have a video series about Electricity and Light and the Shaping of Biology, which I believe, applies to current events with the Covid Con and the alleged threat of transhumanism, and how DNA really works. Not as we've been led to believe, once again.
There's a guy on YT named Greg Jay. He explores all kind of stuff including Velikovsky and the Electric Universe. I think Velikovsky's books foreshadow what is coming. The cycles of Life and death on Planet Earth. The global warming/climate change narrative is twisted. There are changes both natural and very unnatural, technology-caused. I believe we need to know what is really going on...