This article reads like a table of contents of the medical education handbook, Year 0, a must read for anyone interested in being admitted for full-time studies. Almost each sentence here deserves a separate article with detailed explanations. It really is a tough subject.
When I was drawn into the false manifestations of human health by its self-appointed guardians (aka doctors), years before the covidgate goldmine, I had no idea about 99% of this text. Reading and checking a lot of the stuff was a great self-study. Like dream medical studies, all advantages, no drawbacks. Except unpaid time spent on understanding what they don’t want you to understand.
Anyway, this is a very long road taken to ask the unspoken Question. The answer is self-evident. Yes, this is really so far out.
For those who do not want to spend years on self-education but need a simple answer, there is a shortcut. If all premises of the modern medicine, especially those regarding things invisible, are true and verifiable and have become holy by now:…
Why is law used to prevent access to medical information? (patents, copyright, business secrets, confidentiality)
Why finances in the medical industry are secret and resistant to transparency?
Why was the most damaging healthcare crisis in the history welcome by its (really) only official fighter with a 75-year demand of secrecy?
Why hasn’t that company released ALL information related to the covid pathogen back in 2020, in one package, with all support of their developers, researchers, analysts and experts, all in the most obvious bona-fide interest of saving the humanity?
Why have hundreds of professionals all over the world been forced to discover all intricacies of the mechanisms of injury related to both the covid pathogen and the supposed cure? The knowledge that rests peacefully in the cabinets of the said manufacturer…
Why is there no trace of any virus sample in specialized medical facilities all over the world, as evidenced by their own admissions collected through FOIA requests?
These are rhetorical questions, obviously. You can now repeat the unspoken Question. If the foundations of the invisible medicine were true, verified, proven and really functioning as they are described…
One example.
A child is born. They say, the baby is at risk. In danger. Life is the threat to the baby. The mother did not prepare the baby for the danger of the world. They have to inject the baby to protect it from Life.
How come? Follow simple logic. The newborn baby is the foundation of the continuity of Life. By definition, he/she is the strongest being in the existence. The baby is coming into an unknown, and you may be sure that the Creator hasn’t left the baby without the strongest protection imaginable.
If the baby would not be so secure, so well protected, we would have been extinct millions years ago, when there was no water or soap. But we are here, and this is only owing to the insurmountable natural defenses of the newborn baby. At the age of 1 day, the baby is strongest in his/her life. He/she doesn’t need any doctor, any hospital, any drug, any injection. Nothing like this is needed for the baby’s birth. And not only in humans…
All animals exist and survive and continue their life without doctors, drugs, injections, PCR tests, microscope images and thousands peer-reviewed literature written by thousands highly highly educated doctors. This whole structure is not necessary for ALL animals, milliards of them. Milliards of animals - living beings just like humans - manage perfectly well without a trace of medicine.
Indeed! My grandson, now 10 1/2 months old, came into this world perfect and remains untainted by any form of pHARMaceutical drug, poison cocktail and OTC medication. He’s the healthiest baby I’ve ever known to date.
Thank you... but... it's all common knowledge at this stage of our existence. I wish things like this were taught at schools. Or not. What is taught is more easily distorted than what we know from experience...
Brilliantly said ... I have been gravitating towards this sort of mindset now ever since the “pandemic” was announced, and it’s been a slow process; but reading so many of my own thoughts articulated so concisely and clearly fills me with confidence that I am on the right path.
Speaking from my own experience, watch out for the thin red line. On one side, Life, with all its ups and downs and opportunities to grow at your own pace, probably just the way your destiny has been written for you. On the other side, a forced, artificial, continuous obsession with backstage deals and things written between the lines.
The strongest piece of evidence indicating that viruses don't exist is the fact that the evil empire keeps releasing them and their vaxxxes on the global population. If viruses really existed, they would worry that the people (family members, friends) they want to survive might catch the disease and die. However I believe that Stone goes too far when he claims "I don't believe that disease can be transmitted from one human to another human. ...the concept of disease transmission has been repeatedly demonstrated to be false. ... disease is multifactorial and develops by the actions of the individual." How does he explain the bubonic plagues that several times in history killed large percentages of the population? Leaving aside HIV/AIDS, how does he explain sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea which clearly respond to contact tracing and antibiotics?
No such thing as std's, just the spreading of TOXINS. Also watch Sam Bailey's video on the Plague which was also false. Disease is merely your OWN body's response/therapy to expell the built-up toxins, be it seasonally (flu) or more serious (cancer etc). You can not make another person start their detox when theyre not toxic. Disease isnt something inflicted by germs, that's 120 year old pseudoscientific nonsense, and disproven AGAIN AND AGAIN.
"How does he explain the bubonic plagues that several times in history killed large percentages of the population? Leaving aside HIV/AIDS, how does he explain sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea which clearly respond to contact tracing and antibiotics?"
I think we first need to acknowledge the fact that there is no requirement for Stone to provide an alternative explanation. If I were to claim that unicorns trampled on my backyard and you asked for evidence of their existence and I couldn't provide one, then there is no requirement of you to provide me with an alternative explanation. The unicorns doesn't become real all of a sudden just because you may lack an alternative explanation and the same is true when it comes "viruses".
No one claims that bubonic plague syphilis or gonorrhea are viruses. Similarly no one claims that bacteria don't exist. Stone's claims that NO DISEASE is transmissible is extraordinary and requires extraordinary proof. The same is true for unicorns.
This is the burden of proof reversal fallacy. The burden of proof lays on the one doing the positive claim. It is transmission that needs to be proven. And so far, it seems to not have been done, even though we interpret our experiences as such.
Sorry that I wasn't clear enough. My entire point is that Stone is not required to provide an alternative explanation to anything just because he manage to refute a positive claim. So if someone claim that there is such a thing as contagious diseases, then someone has to provide the scientific evidence for it. Mathias is correct about the burden of proof reversal fallacy, it's often made when people like Stone refutes various positive claims.
When he makes the positive claim that no disease is infectious, he needs to support that with remarkable evidence because there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary
To make things even more clear, we can't prove a negative. The way you argue is like arguing that we should present evidence that unicorns, fairies, elves and Santa Claus doesn't exist. That is not possible, we can however present the fact that there is a total lack of evidence of their existence which is a negative claim.
I think you confuse positive claims with negative claims. He refutes a positive claim of infectious diseases based on all available evidence, that is not a positive claim. You are trying to shift the burden of proof here and are continuing with the burden of proof reversal fallacy.
"A negative claim is the opposite of an affirmative or positive claim. It asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something."
Sam Bailey does a great job on this on her sites inc. substack.
From my perspective in 2020 I saw a comment on YouTube claiming no infectious disease. I thought this very odd but as I had never considered it I kept this in mind.
Eventually I realised that proof of transmission relied on statistics which can be manipulated and as they say, correlation is not necessarily causation.
The body can be diseased and one can pass on bacteria, fungal spores and parasites to a degree but that is not passing on a so-called labelled disease.
The body's reaction to those things is what causes disease. if the body has good defenses as it were then it won't be diseased. Disease arises from the body's own reactions.
If the condition of the body is good then disease will not arise. Of course things like fear of disease affect the body's reactions and lower the defenses.
The problem with so-called named diseases is that they are a collection of symptoms labelled by the very medical industry that profits by having a plethora of diseases to sell/push drugs to allegedly help cure the patient.
What appears to be contagion can be explained by people being generally worn out by other factors, dehydration, malnutrition, poor sleep, mineral/vitamin deficiencies etc. What we call the 'flu typically occurs in the winter months in the northern hemisphere when vit D levels are low, typically due to low sunshine levels.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I don't know enough about immunology to dispute whether it is the bacteria, fungus or parasites that transmit disease or something they produce that transmits disease. And certainly the state of health of the host is very important. But that seems to be a semantical issue. I do not want to have someone inject me with Y. pestis bacteria (black death). Moreover, when syphilis and gonorrhea bacteria are eliminated through antibiotics and/or stopping sexual contact with an infected person, it doesn't really matter whether the bacteria are causing the disease or their toxins are causing disease. Again, I wouldn't want to be injected with those bacteria. The fact that antibiotics and contact tracing are 100% effective in stopping transmission of these diseases is good enough. As RFK Jr documents in "The Wuhan Coverup" The Japanese biowarfare unit 731 killed hundreds of thousands of healthy Chinese prisoners by injecting them with bubonic plague, cholera and other lethal bacteria. Whether it was the bacteria or the bacterial toxins is semantic. It's still a war crime.
Thanks Joel. Again I can strongly recommend Sam Bailey sites for her recent post on syphilis. She is questioning this whole idea of transmission. Appearances can be deceiving.
I was hoping that these comments would provide the opportunity for a civil and referenced exchange of ideas & hypotheses, including from Mike Stone himself.
Yeah, why doesn’t he say anything in response? And please don’t ask me to watch a bunch of videos from the Baileys. Just give me the URLs to the actual scientific studies.
This response is truly immense. It is presented in a readable and understandable manner for someone like me who has no ‘scientific’ background ,but who is only interested in truth. Many thanks to all concerned.
Brilliant article. Although I have read Virus Mania and a few books on Terrain Theory and so am familiar with the concepts, this was is put together very well. Congratulations and well done!
Yes, I've been following Mike for a while. His research is top notch. My own interest is in human diet. This aspect is often glossed over when explaining disease. Foods that the mainstream university-trained dieticians think are normal, can be quite toxic as you know. I think there is a reason that young kids almost universally hate vegetables, grains, nuts and plant foods in general. I think the aversion is innate in the human brain, but we succumb to eating them though pressure from our parents who were schooled by their parents, and so it goes. Looking at the diet of the world's remaining primitive and isolated populations, for example the original San people of Southern Africa and the Australian Aborigines, we find an almost exclusive carnivore diet. All plants produce defence chemicals such as oxalates and lectins to a greater or lesser degree, but you won't find these discussed much in diet studies or Big Pharma funded university textbooks (wow, what a surprise!). The vast majority of fungi, including edible mushrooms are toxic too, yet are on our supermarket shelves. From the historical record prior to farming, 5-10000 years ago, it appears that humans were eating a predominantly carnivore diet. Evidence of the ancient cave paintings is compelling. These mainly depict the hunting of animals. When you study the plant life in the vicinity of these caves where people lived 50,000 years ago, for instance in the Drakensberg mountains of South Africa, we only find a very few plants that are edible. Fruits were small berries and they were seasonal, so they were a very minor component of their intake. (nothing like the genetically developed giant fruits we see in supermarkets!)
So, I believe we have to factor diet into some of the disease phenomena, to a much greater degree than we have thought. We can get very sick eating apparently healthy superfoods, let alone what are considered to be unhealthy! There is still much to learn.
To me it alludes to a lot of what is talked about here.
I keep coming back to an Alan Watts quote,
So you see here again the problem comes out in medicine we do not really know how to interfere with the way the world is. The way the world actually is, is an enormously complex interrelated organism. The same problem arises in medicine, because the body is a very complexly interrelated organism
I see virology is a reductionist mistake removing some cells from the body and doing all sorts of things to it doesn't really prove anything.
To paraphrase a quote from the comments of your Cane Toad article,
Medicine is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."
From a Heather Heying article,
The natural world exists with or without humanity’s interpretation of it. As observers, and users of symbols, it is easy to mistake ourselves for the creators and masters of what we are trying to explain.
Humans create visions of how the world works. In modern times we have created numerous visions or dogmas that attempt to explain how a human body functions. Medicine, Pharmaceutical companies and Doctors use these visions to attract followers and rely on the visions to explain why things occur even when there is no evidence to support such contentions. Autocrats use visions to strengthen their grip on power and punish heretics and blasphemers who doubt their vision. The populists substitute these visions in place of facts or truth and even go as far as denying facts or truth when they do not fit within the scope of their vision.
I just love how the bio notes on Rosenau first state that his attempts to study the transmission of the "Spanish flu" were failures, yet he's renown for his studies of flu transmission. I guess they have to have their cake and eat it too!
I can see a movie about a dystopian surveillance state set 100 years in the future where everyone is part of a Borg-like hive run by a computer program (a la Star Trek: Next Generation). A group of "No-Virus" rebels find a copy of the entire archive of Mike Stone's ViroLIEgy Newsletter on the last remaining external hard drive in a cave and upload it into the neural network. The film follows how Mike's archive causes havoc in the society as the Globalist leaders attempt to hunt down the rebels. Happy ending: the rebels win and the globalists are all put on trial. Unhappy ending: Everything that happens is a computer simulation where it's revealed no humans survived due to a new "black death" caused by the nanotechnology from the last worldwide vaccination campaign.
Thank you for this wonderfully illuminating article. There is so much to digest here. I want to go back and click on every link. Virology really is a house of cards.
If viruses are real...fine. If they are not...that is fine too to me.
I just want to know true from untrue so I can orient myself, and others, correctly. It is not unimportant to me.
And people like Mike Stone are very rare, which is why I'm so grateful he agreed to this interview. We need all the help we can get to wade through this quagmire.
In addition to all the excellent content in this article, you might want to look at German New Medicine, Dr. Hamer, to increase your understanding of what dis-ease is and why it happens, according to logical and therefore predictable biological processes. Good information can be found on www.learninggnm.com.
I think there are so many problems with the "there are no virus'" theories. They do not apply the same rigour to their own theories that they use to criticize all the others.
Given the fact, I'm reading everything you write, I'm well aware of the gross corruption of medicine and there are plenty of falsehoods. However, would you contest the bacteriological theory of pathogenic transmission of infectious disease as well?
I am happy to accept the failings of the history of virology, but the approach to the criticism is reductionist in the extreme. You simply can't experiment with biology like you can with some basic physics. Also, terrain theory does not have to contradict the idea of transmissible pathogenic disease.
We see this throughout Old Chinese Medicine. A single pathogen will interact differently with different individuals depending on the terrain. We even find the simple explanation for this in westerns medicines cartoon like models of the immune systems. Applying extreme reductionist rules to biological science is not a valid bar since when dealing with extremely complex systems (which a human being is) you simply can't control all the variables. It is perfectly acceptable and still scientific to use other means of experimentation and observation, you simply have to acknowledge the limitations, but it does not invalidate the work.
Even the example when discussing Poppers falsifiable concept exposes the problem in the most basic of ways. No two people are the same, let alone at any point in time. I can take a very measurable toxin and it can have different effects on two different people depending on their ability to excrete.
The other huge gap I find very notable is he completely avoids a discussion of modern virology where they are creating virus' and they are finding these virus' in people's tissues. This work is highly highly technical and I don't think these folks have the knowledge to actually understand what those few experts are doing. I learned this only by consulting one of these rare specialists, specifically to critically investigate claims Dr Cowan made about the CDC and their paper about SARS-COV-2. Dr Cowan made statements that betrayed his lack of expertise in the field of PCR technology, but I would not have been able to understand or see that had I not contacted one of the true specialists and experts who walked me through the criticisms.
I think you need to find one of those experts and interview them (maybe someone like McKernan), and I think you need to ask some very specific questions about why they are convinced virus' exist, how they create them, and why Koch's postulates aren't necessary to gather evidence to support the existence of a virus.
Neither Dr Cowan, or Mr Stone have the background or experience to comment credibly about the work they do. There is and was a lot of corruption in this field, but it does not mean it is all wrong.
The deadline (January 27, 2024) to submit proposed amendments has passed. It is the responsibility of every sovereign member nation of the WHO to defend the rule of law and enforce Article 55. https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/enforcearticle55
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Here's the Full Documentary "Who the F is Jackson Pollock?" A really fascinating story of what is real and what is fake? And how do you prove or disprove it? https://youtu.be/rFnJLG0-Px0?si=pwCHWV7kEFdMP1L-
If it were possible to create a virus to wipe out the world, you wouldn't need a rabid (fascist) vaccination program. The FLU vaccination campaign was failing, so let’s scare the people about coronaviruses, most have not heard of, and voila a pan coronavirus vaccination campaign! $$$
It’s simple, get rid of the fear by informing the masses that viruses are not the bad guys! Blow big pharma open wide! We have been conned for a very long time to believe that viruses are outside invaders. We have been conned into testing for the common cold! Testing labs made 50% more last year, and test manufacturers and jab makers are bringing in the cash! All the while folks are guinea pigs/lab rats, being kept $ick and di$ea$ed in the medical and pharma cartel$ by their drugs/meds/vaccines/antibiotics/poor care, etc.
Viruses do not fly around in the air. They are non-living, made by YOUR cells to break down tissue toxins wherever they may reside after your lil bacteria/parasites (living) could not get the job done w/o dying themselves. YOUR viruses are not compatible with others’ viruses (RNA/DNA that they are imbedded with in creation is not compatible with your RNA/DNA). FEAR not! And don’t get any jabs either!!! 😊
Oh but they have! Folks like you just choose not to learn... unfortunately what those who would scam us into taking their vaccines and other drugs have done is too make viruses out to be scary when they are actually a part of our whole body immune system. ❤️
Yes, designers of jabs/vaccines to cause sickne$$, di$ea$e, shortened lifespans, all the while lining their pockets while keeping the masses in fear. Just slow down and think about it… IF viruses were contagious, we ALL should be sick ALL the time!!! Or extinct by now! We are being kept in fear of germs, nature, ourselves…how convenient for the cartels of big medical/pharma/gov’t…
The way to get manmade viruses is thru injection... 💉 💉 💉
Thank you for putting this together linking up bits I had heard already but having them in a timeline and broader view is so helpful. Like so many things we once thought we knew for certain, the virus hypothesis is one sure to become outdated and I hope in the future people will look back and think we were quaint in our misunderstanding and conviction in something unproven that was so strong that we poisoned millions of people out of that misconception.
This article reads like a table of contents of the medical education handbook, Year 0, a must read for anyone interested in being admitted for full-time studies. Almost each sentence here deserves a separate article with detailed explanations. It really is a tough subject.
When I was drawn into the false manifestations of human health by its self-appointed guardians (aka doctors), years before the covidgate goldmine, I had no idea about 99% of this text. Reading and checking a lot of the stuff was a great self-study. Like dream medical studies, all advantages, no drawbacks. Except unpaid time spent on understanding what they don’t want you to understand.
Anyway, this is a very long road taken to ask the unspoken Question. The answer is self-evident. Yes, this is really so far out.
For those who do not want to spend years on self-education but need a simple answer, there is a shortcut. If all premises of the modern medicine, especially those regarding things invisible, are true and verifiable and have become holy by now:…
Why is law used to prevent access to medical information? (patents, copyright, business secrets, confidentiality)
Why finances in the medical industry are secret and resistant to transparency?
Why was the most damaging healthcare crisis in the history welcome by its (really) only official fighter with a 75-year demand of secrecy?
Why hasn’t that company released ALL information related to the covid pathogen back in 2020, in one package, with all support of their developers, researchers, analysts and experts, all in the most obvious bona-fide interest of saving the humanity?
Why have hundreds of professionals all over the world been forced to discover all intricacies of the mechanisms of injury related to both the covid pathogen and the supposed cure? The knowledge that rests peacefully in the cabinets of the said manufacturer…
Why is there no trace of any virus sample in specialized medical facilities all over the world, as evidenced by their own admissions collected through FOIA requests?
These are rhetorical questions, obviously. You can now repeat the unspoken Question. If the foundations of the invisible medicine were true, verified, proven and really functioning as they are described…
One example.
A child is born. They say, the baby is at risk. In danger. Life is the threat to the baby. The mother did not prepare the baby for the danger of the world. They have to inject the baby to protect it from Life.
How come? Follow simple logic. The newborn baby is the foundation of the continuity of Life. By definition, he/she is the strongest being in the existence. The baby is coming into an unknown, and you may be sure that the Creator hasn’t left the baby without the strongest protection imaginable.
If the baby would not be so secure, so well protected, we would have been extinct millions years ago, when there was no water or soap. But we are here, and this is only owing to the insurmountable natural defenses of the newborn baby. At the age of 1 day, the baby is strongest in his/her life. He/she doesn’t need any doctor, any hospital, any drug, any injection. Nothing like this is needed for the baby’s birth. And not only in humans…
All animals exist and survive and continue their life without doctors, drugs, injections, PCR tests, microscope images and thousands peer-reviewed literature written by thousands highly highly educated doctors. This whole structure is not necessary for ALL animals, milliards of them. Milliards of animals - living beings just like humans - manage perfectly well without a trace of medicine.
Indeed! My grandson, now 10 1/2 months old, came into this world perfect and remains untainted by any form of pHARMaceutical drug, poison cocktail and OTC medication. He’s the healthiest baby I’ve ever known to date.
Keep it this way. Hide this info and don't let anyone know it.
Sure will keep it this way. As for hiding the info, a little too late haha
It's not too late. It's high time.
Thanks Dan. Great thought-provoking comment as always.
It's all because of your writing style. Good content + great packaging = great value for the reader.
What a beautiful comment! I will save it for posterity. Lots of truth and wisdom is contained within!
Thank you... but... it's all common knowledge at this stage of our existence. I wish things like this were taught at schools. Or not. What is taught is more easily distorted than what we know from experience...
Brilliantly said ... I have been gravitating towards this sort of mindset now ever since the “pandemic” was announced, and it’s been a slow process; but reading so many of my own thoughts articulated so concisely and clearly fills me with confidence that I am on the right path.
Speaking from my own experience, watch out for the thin red line. On one side, Life, with all its ups and downs and opportunities to grow at your own pace, probably just the way your destiny has been written for you. On the other side, a forced, artificial, continuous obsession with backstage deals and things written between the lines.
Wrong comment at a wrong place with wrong intentions and wrong phrasing.
I'd suggest you first try to read the text where you want to put your comment. This one is a total miss.
My “educational background, & political aspirations” are lower than you would ever made an effort to look.
Thank you! I have no idea how you do so many of these incredible deep dives, but you're making "AI" look like a child's computer game at this point. 😊
The strongest piece of evidence indicating that viruses don't exist is the fact that the evil empire keeps releasing them and their vaxxxes on the global population. If viruses really existed, they would worry that the people (family members, friends) they want to survive might catch the disease and die. However I believe that Stone goes too far when he claims "I don't believe that disease can be transmitted from one human to another human. ...the concept of disease transmission has been repeatedly demonstrated to be false. ... disease is multifactorial and develops by the actions of the individual." How does he explain the bubonic plagues that several times in history killed large percentages of the population? Leaving aside HIV/AIDS, how does he explain sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea which clearly respond to contact tracing and antibiotics?
No such thing as std's, just the spreading of TOXINS. Also watch Sam Bailey's video on the Plague which was also false. Disease is merely your OWN body's response/therapy to expell the built-up toxins, be it seasonally (flu) or more serious (cancer etc). You can not make another person start their detox when theyre not toxic. Disease isnt something inflicted by germs, that's 120 year old pseudoscientific nonsense, and disproven AGAIN AND AGAIN.
"How does he explain the bubonic plagues that several times in history killed large percentages of the population? Leaving aside HIV/AIDS, how does he explain sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea which clearly respond to contact tracing and antibiotics?"
I think we first need to acknowledge the fact that there is no requirement for Stone to provide an alternative explanation. If I were to claim that unicorns trampled on my backyard and you asked for evidence of their existence and I couldn't provide one, then there is no requirement of you to provide me with an alternative explanation. The unicorns doesn't become real all of a sudden just because you may lack an alternative explanation and the same is true when it comes "viruses".
No one claims that bubonic plague syphilis or gonorrhea are viruses. Similarly no one claims that bacteria don't exist. Stone's claims that NO DISEASE is transmissible is extraordinary and requires extraordinary proof. The same is true for unicorns.
This is the burden of proof reversal fallacy. The burden of proof lays on the one doing the positive claim. It is transmission that needs to be proven. And so far, it seems to not have been done, even though we interpret our experiences as such.
Sorry that I wasn't clear enough. My entire point is that Stone is not required to provide an alternative explanation to anything just because he manage to refute a positive claim. So if someone claim that there is such a thing as contagious diseases, then someone has to provide the scientific evidence for it. Mathias is correct about the burden of proof reversal fallacy, it's often made when people like Stone refutes various positive claims.
When he makes the positive claim that no disease is infectious, he needs to support that with remarkable evidence because there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary
To make things even more clear, we can't prove a negative. The way you argue is like arguing that we should present evidence that unicorns, fairies, elves and Santa Claus doesn't exist. That is not possible, we can however present the fact that there is a total lack of evidence of their existence which is a negative claim.
I think you confuse positive claims with negative claims. He refutes a positive claim of infectious diseases based on all available evidence, that is not a positive claim. You are trying to shift the burden of proof here and are continuing with the burden of proof reversal fallacy.
"A negative claim is the opposite of an affirmative or positive claim. It asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something."
Burden of Proof
https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/36589
Here is Charles Wright's excellent summary of where things are at in the science of "virology." https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/virology/comments#comment-48384730
Sam Bailey does a great job on this on her sites inc. substack.
From my perspective in 2020 I saw a comment on YouTube claiming no infectious disease. I thought this very odd but as I had never considered it I kept this in mind.
Eventually I realised that proof of transmission relied on statistics which can be manipulated and as they say, correlation is not necessarily causation.
The body can be diseased and one can pass on bacteria, fungal spores and parasites to a degree but that is not passing on a so-called labelled disease.
The body's reaction to those things is what causes disease. if the body has good defenses as it were then it won't be diseased. Disease arises from the body's own reactions.
If the condition of the body is good then disease will not arise. Of course things like fear of disease affect the body's reactions and lower the defenses.
The problem with so-called named diseases is that they are a collection of symptoms labelled by the very medical industry that profits by having a plethora of diseases to sell/push drugs to allegedly help cure the patient.
What appears to be contagion can be explained by people being generally worn out by other factors, dehydration, malnutrition, poor sleep, mineral/vitamin deficiencies etc. What we call the 'flu typically occurs in the winter months in the northern hemisphere when vit D levels are low, typically due to low sunshine levels.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and
I don't disagree with anything you said. I don't know enough about immunology to dispute whether it is the bacteria, fungus or parasites that transmit disease or something they produce that transmits disease. And certainly the state of health of the host is very important. But that seems to be a semantical issue. I do not want to have someone inject me with Y. pestis bacteria (black death). Moreover, when syphilis and gonorrhea bacteria are eliminated through antibiotics and/or stopping sexual contact with an infected person, it doesn't really matter whether the bacteria are causing the disease or their toxins are causing disease. Again, I wouldn't want to be injected with those bacteria. The fact that antibiotics and contact tracing are 100% effective in stopping transmission of these diseases is good enough. As RFK Jr documents in "The Wuhan Coverup" The Japanese biowarfare unit 731 killed hundreds of thousands of healthy Chinese prisoners by injecting them with bubonic plague, cholera and other lethal bacteria. Whether it was the bacteria or the bacterial toxins is semantic. It's still a war crime.
Thanks Joel. Again I can strongly recommend Sam Bailey sites for her recent post on syphilis. She is questioning this whole idea of transmission. Appearances can be deceiving.
I was hoping that these comments would provide the opportunity for a civil and referenced exchange of ideas & hypotheses, including from Mike Stone himself.
Yeah, why doesn’t he say anything in response? And please don’t ask me to watch a bunch of videos from the Baileys. Just give me the URLs to the actual scientific studies.
This response is truly immense. It is presented in a readable and understandable manner for someone like me who has no ‘scientific’ background ,but who is only interested in truth. Many thanks to all concerned.
Thanks Rupert. That was exactly the objective of this interview. We need all the help we can get to find our way through this mess.
Brilliant article. Although I have read Virus Mania and a few books on Terrain Theory and so am familiar with the concepts, this was is put together very well. Congratulations and well done!
Thank you Bruce. I think Mike Stone did a great job with the questions.
Yes, I've been following Mike for a while. His research is top notch. My own interest is in human diet. This aspect is often glossed over when explaining disease. Foods that the mainstream university-trained dieticians think are normal, can be quite toxic as you know. I think there is a reason that young kids almost universally hate vegetables, grains, nuts and plant foods in general. I think the aversion is innate in the human brain, but we succumb to eating them though pressure from our parents who were schooled by their parents, and so it goes. Looking at the diet of the world's remaining primitive and isolated populations, for example the original San people of Southern Africa and the Australian Aborigines, we find an almost exclusive carnivore diet. All plants produce defence chemicals such as oxalates and lectins to a greater or lesser degree, but you won't find these discussed much in diet studies or Big Pharma funded university textbooks (wow, what a surprise!). The vast majority of fungi, including edible mushrooms are toxic too, yet are on our supermarket shelves. From the historical record prior to farming, 5-10000 years ago, it appears that humans were eating a predominantly carnivore diet. Evidence of the ancient cave paintings is compelling. These mainly depict the hunting of animals. When you study the plant life in the vicinity of these caves where people lived 50,000 years ago, for instance in the Drakensberg mountains of South Africa, we only find a very few plants that are edible. Fruits were small berries and they were seasonal, so they were a very minor component of their intake. (nothing like the genetically developed giant fruits we see in supermarkets!)
So, I believe we have to factor diet into some of the disease phenomena, to a much greater degree than we have thought. We can get very sick eating apparently healthy superfoods, let alone what are considered to be unhealthy! There is still much to learn.
Thanks Bruce, great comment.
I am finally convinced on the matter, by this epic article. Thank-you! Will follow up with the "Invisible Rainbow" book...
Reading this I was reminded of one of the first articles of yours I read
https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/cane-toads-australias-mrna
To me it alludes to a lot of what is talked about here.
I keep coming back to an Alan Watts quote,
So you see here again the problem comes out in medicine we do not really know how to interfere with the way the world is. The way the world actually is, is an enormously complex interrelated organism. The same problem arises in medicine, because the body is a very complexly interrelated organism
I see virology is a reductionist mistake removing some cells from the body and doing all sorts of things to it doesn't really prove anything.
To paraphrase a quote from the comments of your Cane Toad article,
Medicine is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."
From a Heather Heying article,
The natural world exists with or without humanity’s interpretation of it. As observers, and users of symbols, it is easy to mistake ourselves for the creators and masters of what we are trying to explain.
Humans create visions of how the world works. In modern times we have created numerous visions or dogmas that attempt to explain how a human body functions. Medicine, Pharmaceutical companies and Doctors use these visions to attract followers and rely on the visions to explain why things occur even when there is no evidence to support such contentions. Autocrats use visions to strengthen their grip on power and punish heretics and blasphemers who doubt their vision. The populists substitute these visions in place of facts or truth and even go as far as denying facts or truth when they do not fit within the scope of their vision.
Thanks Andrew, wonderfully said. And thanks for reminding me of the cane toad article, that was one of my favorites.
I just love how the bio notes on Rosenau first state that his attempts to study the transmission of the "Spanish flu" were failures, yet he's renown for his studies of flu transmission. I guess they have to have their cake and eat it too!
I can see a movie about a dystopian surveillance state set 100 years in the future where everyone is part of a Borg-like hive run by a computer program (a la Star Trek: Next Generation). A group of "No-Virus" rebels find a copy of the entire archive of Mike Stone's ViroLIEgy Newsletter on the last remaining external hard drive in a cave and upload it into the neural network. The film follows how Mike's archive causes havoc in the society as the Globalist leaders attempt to hunt down the rebels. Happy ending: the rebels win and the globalists are all put on trial. Unhappy ending: Everything that happens is a computer simulation where it's revealed no humans survived due to a new "black death" caused by the nanotechnology from the last worldwide vaccination campaign.
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Thank you for this wonderfully illuminating article. There is so much to digest here. I want to go back and click on every link. Virology really is a house of cards.
Thanks Stuart.
Yes, indeed it is a house of cards AND mirrors.
If viruses are real...fine. If they are not...that is fine too to me.
I just want to know true from untrue so I can orient myself, and others, correctly. It is not unimportant to me.
And people like Mike Stone are very rare, which is why I'm so grateful he agreed to this interview. We need all the help we can get to wade through this quagmire.
In addition to all the excellent content in this article, you might want to look at German New Medicine, Dr. Hamer, to increase your understanding of what dis-ease is and why it happens, according to logical and therefore predictable biological processes. Good information can be found on www.learninggnm.com.
I think there are so many problems with the "there are no virus'" theories. They do not apply the same rigour to their own theories that they use to criticize all the others.
Given the fact, I'm reading everything you write, I'm well aware of the gross corruption of medicine and there are plenty of falsehoods. However, would you contest the bacteriological theory of pathogenic transmission of infectious disease as well?
I am happy to accept the failings of the history of virology, but the approach to the criticism is reductionist in the extreme. You simply can't experiment with biology like you can with some basic physics. Also, terrain theory does not have to contradict the idea of transmissible pathogenic disease.
We see this throughout Old Chinese Medicine. A single pathogen will interact differently with different individuals depending on the terrain. We even find the simple explanation for this in westerns medicines cartoon like models of the immune systems. Applying extreme reductionist rules to biological science is not a valid bar since when dealing with extremely complex systems (which a human being is) you simply can't control all the variables. It is perfectly acceptable and still scientific to use other means of experimentation and observation, you simply have to acknowledge the limitations, but it does not invalidate the work.
Even the example when discussing Poppers falsifiable concept exposes the problem in the most basic of ways. No two people are the same, let alone at any point in time. I can take a very measurable toxin and it can have different effects on two different people depending on their ability to excrete.
The other huge gap I find very notable is he completely avoids a discussion of modern virology where they are creating virus' and they are finding these virus' in people's tissues. This work is highly highly technical and I don't think these folks have the knowledge to actually understand what those few experts are doing. I learned this only by consulting one of these rare specialists, specifically to critically investigate claims Dr Cowan made about the CDC and their paper about SARS-COV-2. Dr Cowan made statements that betrayed his lack of expertise in the field of PCR technology, but I would not have been able to understand or see that had I not contacted one of the true specialists and experts who walked me through the criticisms.
I think you need to find one of those experts and interview them (maybe someone like McKernan), and I think you need to ask some very specific questions about why they are convinced virus' exist, how they create them, and why Koch's postulates aren't necessary to gather evidence to support the existence of a virus.
Neither Dr Cowan, or Mr Stone have the background or experience to comment credibly about the work they do. There is and was a lot of corruption in this field, but it does not mean it is all wrong.
Seeing diseases as isolated entities misses a critical truth, the way the body actually is, is an enormously complex interrelated organism.
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If it were possible to create a virus to wipe out the world, you wouldn't need a rabid (fascist) vaccination program. The FLU vaccination campaign was failing, so let’s scare the people about coronaviruses, most have not heard of, and voila a pan coronavirus vaccination campaign! $$$
It’s simple, get rid of the fear by informing the masses that viruses are not the bad guys! Blow big pharma open wide! We have been conned for a very long time to believe that viruses are outside invaders. We have been conned into testing for the common cold! Testing labs made 50% more last year, and test manufacturers and jab makers are bringing in the cash! All the while folks are guinea pigs/lab rats, being kept $ick and di$ea$ed in the medical and pharma cartel$ by their drugs/meds/vaccines/antibiotics/poor care, etc.
Viruses do not fly around in the air. They are non-living, made by YOUR cells to break down tissue toxins wherever they may reside after your lil bacteria/parasites (living) could not get the job done w/o dying themselves. YOUR viruses are not compatible with others’ viruses (RNA/DNA that they are imbedded with in creation is not compatible with your RNA/DNA). FEAR not! And don’t get any jabs either!!! 😊
Existence of alleged viruses and nucleotides (DNA, RNA, ACGTU) has never been proven.
The same goes to alleged immune system.
Oh but they have! Folks like you just choose not to learn... unfortunately what those who would scam us into taking their vaccines and other drugs have done is too make viruses out to be scary when they are actually a part of our whole body immune system. ❤️
Please, provide scientific or observationally logical evidence that proves existence of alleged biological viruses, nucleotides and immune system.
I will even pay 50k USD for it.
Yes, designers of jabs/vaccines to cause sickne$$, di$ea$e, shortened lifespans, all the while lining their pockets while keeping the masses in fear. Just slow down and think about it… IF viruses were contagious, we ALL should be sick ALL the time!!! Or extinct by now! We are being kept in fear of germs, nature, ourselves…how convenient for the cartels of big medical/pharma/gov’t…
The way to get manmade viruses is thru injection... 💉 💉 💉
There is no such thing proven as biological viruses.
Since the beginning of 2020 I try to find evidence for them but I still can't find any.
No observation, no identification, no isolation, no experimentation on them.
You and your ilk choose to remain ignorant... so sorry 😞
Point out any logical fallacy or cognitive bias I allegedly committed according to you. If you can't, then you clearly lost all arguments.
But I guess logic and reason are not your specialty.
Speak for yourself! 😉
Thank you for putting this together linking up bits I had heard already but having them in a timeline and broader view is so helpful. Like so many things we once thought we knew for certain, the virus hypothesis is one sure to become outdated and I hope in the future people will look back and think we were quaint in our misunderstanding and conviction in something unproven that was so strong that we poisoned millions of people out of that misconception.