48. “What ethical considerations impact VU study implementation? While prospective randomized VU studies raise ethical concerns about withholding vaccines from control groups, retrospective studies using existing medical records avoid these ethical dilemmas. The source argues that ethical arguments against VU studies often overlook this distinction.“
This subversive deceit the biggest red flag their is and actually rips asunder their entire vaccination lie. What they are arguing is you cannot do double blind trials because NOT injecting a baby with their vaccine junk is UNETHICAL because then that baby would be at risk of getting the disease the injection is supposed to prevent. So they can never know if it actually works because there are no control groups.
This would be like a criminal shooting someone, and the argument to the judge is there is no way to know if the bullet killed the victim because he could have died of a stroke between when the bullet entered him and when his heart stopped beating. And then the judge lets him off scott free based on that mad hatter logic.
And of course, in 1999 the CDC did run a true double blind trial, and the results were catastrophic for vaccine safety (autism up 7x, SIDs 70% more likely within 3 weeks of taking one, sleep disorders 5x more likely, speech disorders 2x more likely) and so they buried the results, lied and said they never did one, and never touched the subject again citing, “ethical concerns”. The foxes are guarding the henhouses:
And of course the following doctor backs this up with studies of his own clients and lost his license for it (this video is essential viewing on the subject of vaccines):
Thanks for posting this very damning information, Torch. Such a crucial point for those trying to understand this issue, which is at once both complex and simple.
The complexity lies in the "system" of human immunity and the reckless insertion of so many antigens and "adjuvants" (toxins) into it. I have said for years now that if anyone can tell me the result, especially the drug/drug interactions, of putting so many foreign substances into one body, we can talk. Nobody can of course, so the "schedule" is little more than throwing poison darts at kids. For money. So like Kidmasking, it's child abuse. With a side of felony.
The simplicity lies in the enormous and egregious Deceit, frosted with the lies covering the Greed and satanic flavored Perfidy of population control by government and corporate sycophant/fascist bottom feeding scum suckers. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit writing that. Keep firing comrade, it's hard to miss when you're directly over the target.
Thank you for your kudos, doctor. Ive found that this subject matter is so dark it’s impossible for anyone (stable) to get through it without it effecting them at a fundamental level.
Sharing things like this landed me in their crosshairs and ultimately they left me homeless, jobless, and carless last September. It makes me sick to ask (this work was never supposed to be about money), but if you are interested in helping me get back on my feet and/or want to help me continue it, you will find support links at the bottom of this lighthearted article (i try to balance the darkness with light as best I can): https://tritorch.substack.com/p/good-quotes-woke-croaks-cringe-jokes
Either way, best to you and your family in this burgeoning 2025.
This is a book that no true vaccine believer would dare read. It's not merely heretical. Once you read it, the road will eventually lead to apostasy: forever forsaking the teachings of the Most Holy Church of Medical Mysticism.
People would rather go with the (deadly) flow than admit they are being lied to and poisoned. I am doubtful that the normies will ever awaken to any safe level of awareness. It takes effort and risk to break free from pervasive propaganda.
Thank you for this exhaustive, important analysis.
From direct experience, it takes a lot of time to unlearn what one has been taught (brainwashed?) to believe. There is a big ego death involved as well. I used to say, “I know” a lot prior to my unlearning phase, which took reading hundreds of books, effort to keep an open mind so I could not only listen to other points of view but actually hear and process information that was not exactly mainstream. It’s not an endeavor for the faint of heart. You are correct in risk being involved, too. For sure the medical industrial complex will never hire me again because I would no longer comply with unethical edicts so there was financial risk involved. I have also had to resign myself to the fact that not everyone wants to know and it is not my place to convince others. It’s a fairly lonely process.
Wow. Your last comment is the most poignant and the hardest for me to reconcile. Without a greater awakening, we are condemned to continual threats to our freedom to bodily autonomy and subjected to more odious mandates to be poisoned and most odious, our children. This is my continued struggle when told it’s not my place to ask people to open their minds a crack and just look at some info that their tv won’t tell them before telling me they are all safe and effective and totally necessary to participate in society.
I should add that I complied with nothing. I removed the stupid caution tape at our local parks during lockdowns, brought children outside to play, never wore a mask, etc. Erroneously, I thought that if others saw one person not complying, it might give them cause to stand for themselves at least. I was wrong. But a lot of those who did comply where the injections are concerned are paying an awful price currently. I have somehow managed to refrain from saying, “I told you so” like an A-hole. That’s not always been easy.
Honestly, I have doled out books like candy at my expense, shared what I learned from my former career and people wanted to do what their televisions told them to do, even when it cost them their health or their lives. I literally heard, “I don’t like to read” or “I don’t want to get in trouble” and myriad assorted reasons. That is not anything I can change.
Actually "Turtles All the Way Down" is a reference to the circularity of the arguments claiming vaccines are safe and effective without ever reaching actual safety data. The newest shot is safer than the previous shot, the adjuvant, etc, never true placebo. Ultimately you reach the first shot which has no data, only anecdotes and unsupported claims.
The phrase originates with the myth that the earth rests on a turtle. You ask what the turtle stands on and the reply is it's turtles all the way down! Definitely buy and read the book and give it to others.
I haven't trusted the medical mafia for about 30 years. I engage then disengage as there is nothing much they can help me with that I can't do on my own. Kind of a scary book if you realize how flimsy the proof is for any vaccination to be helpful for any reason. Like most of the medical mafia, vaccination is built upon a mountain of lies, half-truths, propaganda and mystique.
One point that people have a really hard time understanding is that the fraud that transpired during covid was the same as what happened with other shots. The public have this idea that these diseases killed and crippled until the vaccine then they went away. If 95% do not take these forever, diphtheria and tetanus will come roaring back. If you look at the year a vaccine was introduced, add 2 years for r and d, that is the time that they stopped trying to learn anything more about the disease.1965,no more effort on measles. Any attempts to figure out the disease from here forward is anti vaxx. Likewise, stopped working on polio in 58. Stopped working on pertussis in the thirties. None of these afflictions has had modern computers or expertise applied. It is a long sad history of hiding adverse effects and labeling any doubters as evil. Good science stands ,bad science gets perverted into a religious belief in the goodness of something despite all evidence to the contrary.
I am so happy to have found your substack. thank you for your detailed reviews and questions to ask your doctor. I am working my way through some of the books that you recommend. Turtles All the way down has been on my bookshelf since the fall of 2023. I tried to get my book club to read it but they were not interested. My fear is they didn't want to hear the truth. But "the truth will set us free"
I was already a skeptic before I read this book many months ago. It was a real eye-opener, as was the book, "Dissolving Illusions", by Suzanne Humphries, MD & Roman Bystrianyk. Where covid is concerned, I have seen the operation as a 3-pronged effort to weaken, harm, & eliminate as many people as possible. The 1st prong was the denial of early out-patient treatment with repurposed medications such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, Budesonide, among others. In the U.S., we have approximately 1-million licensed medical doctors. Of those, roughly 500 stepped-up to offer early out-patient treatment. Those doctors are very much in agreement that between 75-85% of those who died in this country from covid, died needlessly. That means that if 1-million died from covid, that between 750,000 - 850,000 did not need to die. The 2nd prong is all of the hospital-associated deaths from the remdesivir/ventilator/midazolam protocol. The U.S. has 5,139 community hospitals. If each of those hospitals is responsible for, say, 50 protocol-related deaths, then that translates to 256,950 deaths. You can be reasonably sure that it was far more than 50/hospital, bringing the total much, much higher. The 3rd prong are all of the deaths due to the genetic injections that they refer to as vaccines. Steve Kirsch, founder of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation (VSRF) recently did a survey the results of which demonstrated that the mRNA injections have thus far killed 1.2 million Americans. That does not include injuries or permanent disabilities. Denis Rancourt completed an analysis in September of 2023, & estimated that 17-million were killed by the "vaccines" as of that time. That was 16-months ago. From these (3) prongs, it is easy to see that the number of deaths has been both enormous & intentional.
Steve Kirsch's figures, in my experience, are wrong. Times that by 10. I believe flooding the US with illegals (20 million) dramatically inflated the census to obfuscate actual jab deaths. Census would not be lowered. We alone lost 10 million. Worldwide, one billion deaths from the jab. No one died from covid, that was fake. They died from pneumonia and hospital murder, and paid handsomely for a covid death certificate.
In the 50 Q&A section, #21, regarding "the theory that healthy carriers played a primary role in polio transmission":
Two factors taken together raise serious questions about the idea that viruses cause diseases, which idea is crucial to the concept of vaccination to protect against illness.
First of all, this idea of "healthy carriers" says that people can test positive for a virus without becoming ill.
Secondly, people can become ill and have symptoms (paralysis, for example), but test negative for the virus.
These factors suggest, at the very least, that the presence of a virus alone is not the cause of the diseases associated with those viruses. Thus, the focus should be on how to improve the health of individuals so that they can remain healthy even in the presence of viruses, not to eradicate every virus on earth.
Polio is a great example of this since cases of polio in India went down following a vaccination campaign, but cases of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis increased dramatically. What is the point of a vaccination campaign if it doesn't reduce overall suffering?
"This data undergoes analysis to identify patterns or clusters warranting further investigation."
This data is *supposed to* undergo analysis, but often it is not done, the results are hidden, or the results are explained away in a dishonest manner.
"Ethical considerations must be carefully weighed when using placebos, especially for diseases with serious consequences. In some cases, researchers may need to use an active control group receiving standard treatment or an alternative vaccine when withholding proven effective treatment would be unethical. The choice requires justification and transparent reporting."
That mindset allows a lot of fraud to take place.
If the new vaccine is for a disease that does not already have a vaccine, it's not unethical to withhold the vaccine from the placebo recipients. They're just in the same boat as the rest of the world.
If a vaccine already exists, but the one being tested is a new formulation, there needs to be proof that the old one is no more dangerous than a true placebo. If the original one was not tested against a true placebo in a large enough test group for a long enough period of time to monitor for both common and rare long-term side effects, then the comparison between the new and old vaccines is invalid.
It is impossible to make a true placebo indistinguishable from a vaccine. A saline shot is unlikely to produce even the mild side effects of arm soreness/tenderness at the injection site. So anyone who gets a true inactive placebo will suspect that they received a placebo, and people who have aches, mild fevers, or injection-site tenderness will recognize that they received the vaccine. Trying to solve this problem by giving the "placebo" groups some kind of active substance like an adjuvant or another vaccine introduces confounding variables.
48. “What ethical considerations impact VU study implementation? While prospective randomized VU studies raise ethical concerns about withholding vaccines from control groups, retrospective studies using existing medical records avoid these ethical dilemmas. The source argues that ethical arguments against VU studies often overlook this distinction.“
This subversive deceit the biggest red flag their is and actually rips asunder their entire vaccination lie. What they are arguing is you cannot do double blind trials because NOT injecting a baby with their vaccine junk is UNETHICAL because then that baby would be at risk of getting the disease the injection is supposed to prevent. So they can never know if it actually works because there are no control groups.
This would be like a criminal shooting someone, and the argument to the judge is there is no way to know if the bullet killed the victim because he could have died of a stroke between when the bullet entered him and when his heart stopped beating. And then the judge lets him off scott free based on that mad hatter logic.
And of course, in 1999 the CDC did run a true double blind trial, and the results were catastrophic for vaccine safety (autism up 7x, SIDs 70% more likely within 3 weeks of taking one, sleep disorders 5x more likely, speech disorders 2x more likely) and so they buried the results, lied and said they never did one, and never touched the subject again citing, “ethical concerns”. The foxes are guarding the henhouses:
Double blind study:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/government-corruption/fully-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/government-corruption/fully-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-part-2/
Archived Source Links:
https://archive.is/yfo0k
https://archive.is/nv3O2
Archived 2019 Version (Part 2 Only)
https://archive.is/evUwY
BACKUPS for all of the above:
https://tritorch.com/degradation/%20CDC1999StudyUnvaccinatedChildenAreWayHealtheriAndDieALotLessThanVaccinatedChildren
And of course the following doctor backs this up with studies of his own clients and lost his license for it (this video is essential viewing on the subject of vaccines):
Deaths and Diseases in the Vaccinated Vs Unvaccinated: https://old.bitchute.com/video/gROe4FJFExbD
Thanks for posting this very damning information, Torch. Such a crucial point for those trying to understand this issue, which is at once both complex and simple.
The complexity lies in the "system" of human immunity and the reckless insertion of so many antigens and "adjuvants" (toxins) into it. I have said for years now that if anyone can tell me the result, especially the drug/drug interactions, of putting so many foreign substances into one body, we can talk. Nobody can of course, so the "schedule" is little more than throwing poison darts at kids. For money. So like Kidmasking, it's child abuse. With a side of felony.
The simplicity lies in the enormous and egregious Deceit, frosted with the lies covering the Greed and satanic flavored Perfidy of population control by government and corporate sycophant/fascist bottom feeding scum suckers. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit writing that. Keep firing comrade, it's hard to miss when you're directly over the target.
Best of luck,
~~ j ~~
Thank you for your kudos, doctor. Ive found that this subject matter is so dark it’s impossible for anyone (stable) to get through it without it effecting them at a fundamental level.
Sharing things like this landed me in their crosshairs and ultimately they left me homeless, jobless, and carless last September. It makes me sick to ask (this work was never supposed to be about money), but if you are interested in helping me get back on my feet and/or want to help me continue it, you will find support links at the bottom of this lighthearted article (i try to balance the darkness with light as best I can): https://tritorch.substack.com/p/good-quotes-woke-croaks-cringe-jokes
Either way, best to you and your family in this burgeoning 2025.
This is a book that no true vaccine believer would dare read. It's not merely heretical. Once you read it, the road will eventually lead to apostasy: forever forsaking the teachings of the Most Holy Church of Medical Mysticism.
People would rather go with the (deadly) flow than admit they are being lied to and poisoned. I am doubtful that the normies will ever awaken to any safe level of awareness. It takes effort and risk to break free from pervasive propaganda.
Thank you for this exhaustive, important analysis.
From direct experience, it takes a lot of time to unlearn what one has been taught (brainwashed?) to believe. There is a big ego death involved as well. I used to say, “I know” a lot prior to my unlearning phase, which took reading hundreds of books, effort to keep an open mind so I could not only listen to other points of view but actually hear and process information that was not exactly mainstream. It’s not an endeavor for the faint of heart. You are correct in risk being involved, too. For sure the medical industrial complex will never hire me again because I would no longer comply with unethical edicts so there was financial risk involved. I have also had to resign myself to the fact that not everyone wants to know and it is not my place to convince others. It’s a fairly lonely process.
Wow. Your last comment is the most poignant and the hardest for me to reconcile. Without a greater awakening, we are condemned to continual threats to our freedom to bodily autonomy and subjected to more odious mandates to be poisoned and most odious, our children. This is my continued struggle when told it’s not my place to ask people to open their minds a crack and just look at some info that their tv won’t tell them before telling me they are all safe and effective and totally necessary to participate in society.
I should add that I complied with nothing. I removed the stupid caution tape at our local parks during lockdowns, brought children outside to play, never wore a mask, etc. Erroneously, I thought that if others saw one person not complying, it might give them cause to stand for themselves at least. I was wrong. But a lot of those who did comply where the injections are concerned are paying an awful price currently. I have somehow managed to refrain from saying, “I told you so” like an A-hole. That’s not always been easy.
Honestly, I have doled out books like candy at my expense, shared what I learned from my former career and people wanted to do what their televisions told them to do, even when it cost them their health or their lives. I literally heard, “I don’t like to read” or “I don’t want to get in trouble” and myriad assorted reasons. That is not anything I can change.
Actually "Turtles All the Way Down" is a reference to the circularity of the arguments claiming vaccines are safe and effective without ever reaching actual safety data. The newest shot is safer than the previous shot, the adjuvant, etc, never true placebo. Ultimately you reach the first shot which has no data, only anecdotes and unsupported claims.
The phrase originates with the myth that the earth rests on a turtle. You ask what the turtle stands on and the reply is it's turtles all the way down! Definitely buy and read the book and give it to others.
I haven't trusted the medical mafia for about 30 years. I engage then disengage as there is nothing much they can help me with that I can't do on my own. Kind of a scary book if you realize how flimsy the proof is for any vaccination to be helpful for any reason. Like most of the medical mafia, vaccination is built upon a mountain of lies, half-truths, propaganda and mystique.
“I can only show you the door. You’re the one that has to walk through it.” - Morpheus, The Matrix"
"Intramuscular injection is the worst way to be exposed to a toxin. Explain why I'm wrong. Biology is the way out." Dr. Jonathan Jay Couey
https://stream.gigaohm.bio/w/bSt55gBAAjjihJfA6YDodj
Very important book. Must read.
One point that people have a really hard time understanding is that the fraud that transpired during covid was the same as what happened with other shots. The public have this idea that these diseases killed and crippled until the vaccine then they went away. If 95% do not take these forever, diphtheria and tetanus will come roaring back. If you look at the year a vaccine was introduced, add 2 years for r and d, that is the time that they stopped trying to learn anything more about the disease.1965,no more effort on measles. Any attempts to figure out the disease from here forward is anti vaxx. Likewise, stopped working on polio in 58. Stopped working on pertussis in the thirties. None of these afflictions has had modern computers or expertise applied. It is a long sad history of hiding adverse effects and labeling any doubters as evil. Good science stands ,bad science gets perverted into a religious belief in the goodness of something despite all evidence to the contrary.
Excellent synopsis of an excellent book—a must-read for anyone looking for truth in this subject area. Glad you added it to your ‘stack!
I am so happy to have found your substack. thank you for your detailed reviews and questions to ask your doctor. I am working my way through some of the books that you recommend. Turtles All the way down has been on my bookshelf since the fall of 2023. I tried to get my book club to read it but they were not interested. My fear is they didn't want to hear the truth. But "the truth will set us free"
I was already a skeptic before I read this book many months ago. It was a real eye-opener, as was the book, "Dissolving Illusions", by Suzanne Humphries, MD & Roman Bystrianyk. Where covid is concerned, I have seen the operation as a 3-pronged effort to weaken, harm, & eliminate as many people as possible. The 1st prong was the denial of early out-patient treatment with repurposed medications such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, Budesonide, among others. In the U.S., we have approximately 1-million licensed medical doctors. Of those, roughly 500 stepped-up to offer early out-patient treatment. Those doctors are very much in agreement that between 75-85% of those who died in this country from covid, died needlessly. That means that if 1-million died from covid, that between 750,000 - 850,000 did not need to die. The 2nd prong is all of the hospital-associated deaths from the remdesivir/ventilator/midazolam protocol. The U.S. has 5,139 community hospitals. If each of those hospitals is responsible for, say, 50 protocol-related deaths, then that translates to 256,950 deaths. You can be reasonably sure that it was far more than 50/hospital, bringing the total much, much higher. The 3rd prong are all of the deaths due to the genetic injections that they refer to as vaccines. Steve Kirsch, founder of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation (VSRF) recently did a survey the results of which demonstrated that the mRNA injections have thus far killed 1.2 million Americans. That does not include injuries or permanent disabilities. Denis Rancourt completed an analysis in September of 2023, & estimated that 17-million were killed by the "vaccines" as of that time. That was 16-months ago. From these (3) prongs, it is easy to see that the number of deaths has been both enormous & intentional.
The analysis by Denis Rancourt, was for world-wide deaths, based on his analysis of the Southern Hemisphere.
Steve Kirsch's figures, in my experience, are wrong. Times that by 10. I believe flooding the US with illegals (20 million) dramatically inflated the census to obfuscate actual jab deaths. Census would not be lowered. We alone lost 10 million. Worldwide, one billion deaths from the jab. No one died from covid, that was fake. They died from pneumonia and hospital murder, and paid handsomely for a covid death certificate.
And then there are the people who just Don’t want to know.
In the 50 Q&A section, #21, regarding "the theory that healthy carriers played a primary role in polio transmission":
Two factors taken together raise serious questions about the idea that viruses cause diseases, which idea is crucial to the concept of vaccination to protect against illness.
First of all, this idea of "healthy carriers" says that people can test positive for a virus without becoming ill.
Secondly, people can become ill and have symptoms (paralysis, for example), but test negative for the virus.
These factors suggest, at the very least, that the presence of a virus alone is not the cause of the diseases associated with those viruses. Thus, the focus should be on how to improve the health of individuals so that they can remain healthy even in the presence of viruses, not to eradicate every virus on earth.
Polio is a great example of this since cases of polio in India went down following a vaccination campaign, but cases of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis increased dramatically. What is the point of a vaccination campaign if it doesn't reduce overall suffering?
In the 50 Q&A section, question 5:
"This data undergoes analysis to identify patterns or clusters warranting further investigation."
This data is *supposed to* undergo analysis, but often it is not done, the results are hidden, or the results are explained away in a dishonest manner.
In the 50 Q&A section, #8:
"Ethical considerations must be carefully weighed when using placebos, especially for diseases with serious consequences. In some cases, researchers may need to use an active control group receiving standard treatment or an alternative vaccine when withholding proven effective treatment would be unethical. The choice requires justification and transparent reporting."
That mindset allows a lot of fraud to take place.
If the new vaccine is for a disease that does not already have a vaccine, it's not unethical to withhold the vaccine from the placebo recipients. They're just in the same boat as the rest of the world.
If a vaccine already exists, but the one being tested is a new formulation, there needs to be proof that the old one is no more dangerous than a true placebo. If the original one was not tested against a true placebo in a large enough test group for a long enough period of time to monitor for both common and rare long-term side effects, then the comparison between the new and old vaccines is invalid.
It is impossible to make a true placebo indistinguishable from a vaccine. A saline shot is unlikely to produce even the mild side effects of arm soreness/tenderness at the injection site. So anyone who gets a true inactive placebo will suspect that they received a placebo, and people who have aches, mild fevers, or injection-site tenderness will recognize that they received the vaccine. Trying to solve this problem by giving the "placebo" groups some kind of active substance like an adjuvant or another vaccine introduces confounding variables.
TYPO to fix in the 17 questions section, #14: 15-month year-old infant