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Hi Joshua,

Thank you for the Link, I will read.

> I increasingly live in an interactive mode with Life itself, and Nature -- and have given up on trying to change the world for the better - quite a relief I can tell you :)

REPLY: Yes it is a relief. I was never able to go on a vision quest as the years I was able to go my mentor didn't have enough questers to defer the cost.

His method was quite a process. First you did a 3 day test run in a remote canyon in near San Juan Bautista. There was a sweat lodge that all participated in. Those that survived that experience then did the real thing at very remote places also in California.It was another 3 day journey. No food just water. Quite a rigorous experience. People come back changed for sure.

I know of no other way to get in touch with your true self quickly. Yes near death experience should wake one up for sure. I am guessing as I have not had one of those either. But a vision quest is almost a near death experience.

Finding a true teacher remains a daunting task of those who do not know themselves and do not know they do not know.

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