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Neil Pryke's avatar

When every normal natural biophysical event becomes a biomedical intervention...What could possibly go wrong..?

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Dr. Eisenstein was a Oby guy in Elk grove village Illinois. In his career he delivered 15,000 infants in the homes of his patients. No hospital. In addition he didn't believe in vaccines. Autism didn't raise it's ugly head. AAP hated him and put their National Headquarters in the village to dominate the hospital scene and educate all the physicians. The mothers loved Dr. Eisenstein's caring ways. He has passed and AAP moved their headquarters to Naperville Illinois. Now AAP is being sued for lying to physicians.

ShieldMaiden's avatar

Interesting! I was raised in EGV (60's and 70's), Northwest Hospital in the area as I recall. Villainizing those who function well outside the medical machine is SOP. I never encountered any autistic kids my age. Then, in the 90's three of my friends had children who were diagnosed. My heart hurts.

SuzyF's avatar

What an amazing, caring doctor ❤️ AAP= disgusting!!

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

PS: Post Partum Depression can be avoided with the proper prenatal care and a rich nutritional diet and supplementing with MG and Vitamin D and other key nutrients including methyl folate.

Mary C's avatar

So much here that brings back memories from my oldest, almost 30 yrs ago. Damn right I struggled with depression, but wasn't diagnosed and put on meds until 8 years later (took for several years and then weaned myself off). Induced for no good reason before due date, days in NICU, struggling to breastfeed, etc then the inexplicable endless crying. I understand all too well the almost irresistible urge to shake a baby. Such a horrifying thought but if you've been there, you know what I mean. Pediatrician telling me to "bicycle his legs or put a warm compress on his tummy" ,"it's just colic". Then years of ear infections, neurological symptoms including night terrors, seizure, ADHD-I , etc. My boy was sweet and brilliant but in retrospect, damaged. I remember seeing pics of us together when I was barely 30 and I looked decades too old around the eyes.

Deb.Butler's avatar

My mother-in-law suffered from post natal depression so severe that after her second child she chose to have no more children, and this was in the 1930’s. You saying they were inducing post natal depression then?

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I know my mom was told she simply 'didn't have enough milk' in the 1950's in Canadian hospitals. She was also given epidurals for all her births.

This from Brave browser searches;

The use of epidurals began in the early 20th century. The first documented epidural injection was performed in 1901 by French physicians Jean-Athanase Sicard and Fernand Cathelin, who independently injected cocaine into the sacral hiatus to treat sciatica and other painful conditions. This marked the start of epidural administration for pain relief.

While the technique was initially used for non-obstetric pain, its application in childbirth evolved over time. Fidel Pagés Miravé, a Spanish military surgeon, developed the lumbar epidural technique in 1921, significantly expanding its medical use. The first continuous epidural anesthesia for labor was reported in 1931 by Romanian obstetrician Eugen Aburel, who used a catheter to deliver medication.

Pitocin, the synthetic form of oxytocin, was first synthesized in 1953 by American biochemist Vincent du Vigneaud. It became available for clinical use two years later, in 1955. The first successful use of synthetic oxytocin in obstetrics was in the 1950s, revolutionizing labor management by providing a reliable method to induce or augment labor.

eileen's avatar

What's next? Siloing parenthood? In that scenario, parenting is not necessarily done by the birth parents, but by experts trained in parenting, as if that could be taught. So the surrogate mother, whose only function is to carry the child, passed the "right characteristics" test (remember Hitler's goal of perfect humans), but because she wasn't chosen by a committee of childless experts to be trained to be a parent, so she is not allowed to keep the child; as a result everything was done to keep her from bonding to the infant.

Science fiction? Maybe now, but with all this gaslighting about men having babies, and now this expose', where do you think it is going to lead? Wanna stop it? Be like the Amish: home births with midwives or family members who have had children before, home school your kids, so they know how to do things like raising a family, growing food, cooking, building homes, and if they had cars (I don't think they do) fix them.

Learn the Three R's instead of this woke nonsense where the graduates are only capable of viscerally hating alpha males. And instead divert their instinct to raising dogs, dressing them in human-like clothing and because they can't cook, feed them processed food. But hey, they have a good paying job at a University, so paying the exorbitant fees to an expert (we call them veterinarians) to fix a broken dog or cat created by years of feeding non-nutritious garbage we call 'dog food' so that the animal become unfixable even by the expert and dies of cancer.

Welcome to woke Utopia, where pets are surrogate children, parents are chosen by a committee (HRC was telling the truth about 'taking a village to raise a child') and surrogate moms are chosen among physiologically desireable people, defined by a committee of ideological geneticists. Real parents are chosen by a committee of childless academics with all kinds of credentials authorizing them to play surrogate God. With a brand new expert professional called a 'wet nurse' how to breast feed an infant without bonding to the child.