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Niki's avatar

A famous surgeon who was my father's mate, my father was a doctor, told me many times never to go for "routine" check of any kind.

He said " you go for a check when you ARE sick, before it is not only useless, it is dangerous. Too many of the checks they do are dangerous."

Unbekoming's avatar

Regular "checks" attempting "early diagnosis" are simply the machines way to maximize business and sale "opportunities. It's a magnificently corrupt "public-private partnership".

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

100%. Have I had two (?) physicals -- those typical, invasive, useless "exams" for women -- as an adult? Maybe two...and then I said, "Nope. God never intended me to need any of this to be healthy or stay healthy. I'm done with this sh*t."

That has to be close to 40 years ago. Had one mammogram probably 25 years ago? Husband's urging. Went and while undergoing that utterly horrific procedure, I swore then and there that I would never, ever do that to myself again. 𝑬𝑽𝑬𝑹. And I've kept my word.

Modern "medicine" is a grotesque, deranged sh*tshow.

denise ward's avatar

Modern medicine is about sadism. Everyone gets to do it which delights the sadists who come up with these ideas. The money guys, they love to extract all the money to themselves and watch the "useless eaters" fall for it.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

So true, Denise! So many years ago I began to see doctors -- even nurses -- as kind of weird. "There's something wrong with them," I can remember saying to myself. I do everything in my power to stay as far away from them as possible and have done for years.

denise ward's avatar

Great that you figured it out. They do the most horrific things - like putting needles into people's eyes. Don't tell me there aren't now better ways of doing things but the vile procedures just keep on coming. Many of them truly believe they are doing good for the patient and many of them just like to inflict pain and be over someone else. I would not be caught alive in a doctor's office or hospital. I have learned how to cure myself and my dog.

Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

I did my first mammogram ten years ago. It was so traumatic -- painful and needlessly frightening due to its inaccuracy -- that I refused to get another one, even though I was pressured heavily every year from my gyno.

A brilliant naturopath I used to work with told me that breast tissue acts like a filter for the female body, much like the liver, which is why environmental toxins affect breast cancer rate. She said the prostate performs the same function in men.

The medical profession has been reduced to a bunch of technologists. All they're really good at now is anything mechanical -- heart transplants, broken bones, etc. Healing is not a machine, its an art.

Thanks for bringing awareness forward! The documentary sounds terrific...

Unbekoming's avatar

This is my favourite Bob Moran painting about doctors.

https://www.bobmoran.co.uk/paintings/shame-original-artwork

What an embarrassment they are.

Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

I love it! My son’s GF has a brother in medical school and she is going to school to be a physician assistant and everyone thinks that’s great….except me. All I can think is “ if he marries her, their future kids will be vaccinated with everything.”

TexBritta's avatar

My niece is a PA and her husband is a medical salesman and both got injected. She had the J&J and he had Moderna and now he has arthritis really band in his hands. My niece is so bought into all this medical BS and can’t see what is really going on…crazy.

Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Now THAT'S true art. Thanks for that!

kitten seeking answers's avatar

will study this, last time I got digital 3D (more radiation than traditional 2D) in 2019 they had me come back same month for a re-do (false positive) which insurance didn’t cover… think I’m done with it… may look into thermal option if insurance covers.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

Makes you wonder why X-rays for soft tissue? Why not ultrasound?

Janet's avatar

I had that last time but still it hurt like h@ll. I’m going thermography if I need one. Outside places do it if your doc won’t order it. I’m not a regular tester though. Maybe 2 or 3 mammograms in the last 12 years.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

I was also informed in my last mammo how dense my tissue is. I’m going to look into ultrasound

Unbekoming's avatar

The documentary does a great job of explaining thermography/ultrasound combination.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

They did a chest X-ray on my husband when he went to er for high bp. I asked the same question. Why X-ray when there’s no bones in the heart?

Jayne Evans's avatar

A chest x-ray shows a surprising amount of information for high BP. Is the heart shadow enlarged? Is there fluid in the lungs? Is the diaphragm elevated? etc.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

It’s getting to where I question everything

AliceJKeen's avatar

Thank you for this.

Texas Cowgirl's avatar

I quit mammograms 15 years ago. A mammogram would never have seen my tiny tumor because it was against my chest wall. It was caught by MRI and ultrasound.

The Green Hornet's avatar

More fraud in the medical establishment? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. 🤡

https://youtu.be/vxnpY0owPkA?si=PZMJhU9YRf0iDSjX

Unbekoming's avatar

🤣 Indeed, it's like coming across a repeat offender for the 15th time..."oh, it's you again"

They have run the same playbook everywhere they could get away with it, which is pretty much everywhere.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

I interviewed with Nurse Michelle from the Nurses Out Loud podcast. In our conversation about the distrust with healthcare systems I mentioned the fact that I came across this substack article which led me to watch the documentary. Then she lead me to this traveling ultrasound service called, Herscan. You can get scheduled for breast ultrasound in an area near you so I am getting one this afternoon! Here’s the website https: //www.herscan.com/

Thank you for making me aware

Unbekoming's avatar

Thank you, that's great.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Not that I needed validation, but it's good to know this information is out there. I'm 71 now, and never ever had a mammogram: it seemed preposterous to me. Nor a flu shot for that matter.

DanB1973's avatar

This is a truly great article. Ebook summary?

Unbekoming's avatar

Thanks Dan. Can you please explain what you mean by eBook summary? Are you referring to Gotzsche's book?

DanB1973's avatar

This article is interesting and attractive as a short intro to the subject and informative for those who suffer from the issue or think about following the trend. Making a PDF from this article will be a nice way to share good information.

A bit in the style of my downloadable PDFs (at the end of the text): https://thepathishere.substack.com/p/darwin

Kitcaboo's avatar

Ultrasounds! When I had the very last mammogram I'll ever have, they got me in to wait, weeping in the corridor for.....an ultrasound. I remember thinking, "well if if this is the last word, why did you not give me an ultrasound to begin with?" Dr came out and (she) said "it's a cyst, see you in a year". Cute. After putting me through that (far less than many) I wasn't going back at all, ever, unless I was at death's door already.

Unbekoming's avatar

You will appreciate this, if you haven't seen it already

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/ultrasound

leithian's avatar

I stopped getting mammograms many years ago due to the health-risks they pose and the fact that they do not reduce mortality due to breast cancer. I really don’t miss the pain of this useless procedure that causes women so much anxiety and unnecessary follow up testing because of false alarms. Definitely, imo, an all-risk, no-benefit procedure.

Jursy Gurl's avatar

I watched the full documentary here and I have a Dr appointment for my annual checkup where I will be asking for ultrasound going forward because my last mammogram reported dense breast tissue which I vaguely remember being told but now it’s in writing. Being told you have dense breasts didn’t come with additional information on the problems with detecting.

https://rumble.com/v44y430--boobs-mammograms.html

PBinAB's avatar

This article popped up in my Substack and could not have been more prescient as I have been reluctant to go for any more mammograms and now I can see why my intuition was telling me to stop going for them. Very much appreciate your detailed analysis and suggestions on alternate screening methods. Happy New Year.

Unbekoming's avatar

👍 Happy New Year!

SQ's avatar

I had one mammogram and that was it. No way I would have one again. I thought it must have been invented by someone who hates women. To crush the breast as flat a pancake is, by itself, an obviously bad idea.

My Cuban grandmother was always on us girls to protect our breasts from getting hit.

Oye, cuidado. If jou get heet in thee breast, jou may get cancer. Old wisdom. And then there's the radiation.

denise ward's avatar

I'd like to see statistics on people who never go to the doctors and never get tested. I wonder if their lifespan is much longer. I don't know if there are any studies on this comparison.

FREED0ML0VER's avatar

I've known several people who have lived into their nineties or beyond. All of them avoided doctors, regular physicals and early diagnostic testing. Every. Single. One.

denise ward's avatar

Yeah I bet that's right. And I also bet that's why the comparison studies are never done. Just like comparison studies between vaxxed children and unvaxxed children.

VanLife Views's avatar

For me I’ve never had a boob scan or faxine in my life

Still kicking at 60 (no meds)

Did do some paps.....

denise ward's avatar

I'm sure you're in much better health because of it. I think the body can recover if you jab or x-ray it once or twice but ongoing - that's when real damage is caused. The human body is extremely persistent. I had one mammogram and vowed never again, I had on colonoscopy but forgot to take the mixture the night before so they couldn't do it and when I got out of there I thought "what the hell was I thinking", and vowed never to have one of those things. So I got out of it thankfully, someone was looking over me. I bet our body is really strong to withstand the various onslaughts they are putting in our food and environment. Yay for natural human life!

Jayne Evans's avatar

There was a study published a number of years ago that concluded the mortality rates of tested vs non-tested people were exactly the same. The morbidity of the tested group was greatly increased though due to being corralled into more interventions and treatments.

denise ward's avatar

Ah interesting. So no difference or more mortality due to intervention. Thank you.