I had my 1st baby at 15 in 1976. Not many vaccines around then but I wanted to be a good teenage mom so she received her 1st at 6wks. Bad reaction but no lasting side effects . Fast forward a few years later ( married now) I had done lots of research and when I had my 2nd in 79 ( born at home ) We were done with shots.
Fast forward I had read several great books Shot in the dark , How to Raise Healthy Children in spite of your Doctor.
I did manage to graduate with my class in 78. Ten years later with 4 small children and loving husband . I went and received my nursing degree.
I have just retired after 36 yrs working in Newborn Nursery and NICU. I loved to argue with the Drs saying I figured it out at 15 not sure why you can’t now !
I had 6 children and 1 is completely vaccinated and Covid too. My others remain unvaxxed. I had 5 boys and my oldest is a daughter. Unfortunately the wife’s have their own mindset so out of 10 grandchildren 7 are vaccinated 5 also took the Covid shot :(
So I definitely feel your pain heartbreak all the emotions out there.
I was holding my breath while reading the interview, hoping/praying that Anya wasn't going to say that her adult children thought they had missed out by not getting all of their childhood vaccines and thus decided to get ALL of them when they became of age. Whew!
Unfortunately I know a young man who did just that when he went to Uni. He wanted to be like everyone else. He had the entire childhood schedule over 2 weeks. 6 months later, he had a complete mental breakdown. Still struggling to keep it together and on psych meds.
Thanks for publishing. I have a story about the same topic, but my journey was different, and my kids just a bit younger. One key thing I have come to understand is that simply protecting your kids from the health system wasn't good enough.
It was a lot of hard work to keep them from being injected by the system, and I strove to hide that from them as much as possible. What I didn't realize at the time, is there is nothing like a lesson learned on your own. They never did the thousands of hours of research, they never saw the enormous effort, and the facing down of attempts to shame and fear so for them, it's simply a fact and then when they're an adult, the voice of the mob is far louder than the voice of your parents who always sound too cautious to a young adult.
I realized a bit late, that I needed them to really understand the why and what about not trusting the authorities. More nudging in that direction was necessary.
The other challenge is that during the peak of the past few years of medical fascism, one not only had to be a contrarian, one had to have a lot of conviction and courage to stand up against the mob even if you wanted to fight.
I was incensed at our society for threatening my adult children with a substance I had spent their whole lifetimes protecting them from. I know my own mistakes now, I have learned the lesson. No point in remaining angry either, what's done is done. One managed to skirt the rules but one didn't want to conflict with the system. Thankfully no known damage, but I'm still irked.
Now, I have to make up for lost time, because this isn't anywhere near over.
So many similarities to my life the past few years with adult children, family, and friends. Hard to comprehend the societal destruction that has and is taking place all around us.
I have not finished the article. If it changes anything I would have canceled this note. You say at the outset, "who had raised unvaccinated children only to see them, as adults, get vaccinated (and injured)."
This is what it seems to me. The parent would need to really explain the reasons for it, giving total understanding to the child. It is easier by far to know "for" somebody to do something than it is to create the understanding in them of what you understand. So the other person never really sees the "why" of what one is doing. So many times it is just impossible to totally explain and life is so short. Many times there are communication glitches between parents and children, where children (sometimes adult) cannot explain the "why" of things or parents cannot explain.
I don't know Anya Kerstin, obviously I wasn't there when she talked to her children at various stages of their lives, but based on my own experience with the people in my life in 2021-present, I would say that to those captured by the covidian mindset all the explanations in the world didn't amount to spit. They were going to jab, jab and jab again-- and that included pregnant women. My own family members (with one exception) and friends were practically hysterical to get their covid injections. It was a phenomenon that so often I thought, no one in the future would believe. But it happened. I witnessed it up close. All of which is to say, explaining things to one's child wasn't necessarily going to change what happened later. People fell into the trap for reasons that did not have to do with intellectual understanding. Literally, with the psy op, that part of their mind shut off.
This week, a friend in my sermon study group who was so afraid she wore 2 masks outside in the middle of winter, gave me a Christmas card with a nice note. She knows I am unvaxxed, as does the rest of them. She had gently shamed me the summer of 2021 which prompted me to send her something calling her out gently on the shaming and my reasons for not vaccinating. As much as I knew then which by then included the horrific realization that this was wholly a plan of the devil from the very beginning--back to the brainwashing over decades. He listens to us and recruits people into the plan. Those recruits were all around us. I didn’t put that in so many words though. Maybe I should have. Her card described me as a “free spirit”. Perhaps I should have asked what that means. Yes, I’m free in Christ. Open to the Holy Spirit. Not sure that’s how she sees it. I cannot talk to my daughter at all about this. Ever. She then recruits her father to say something to me which always turns bad for me as he stores up grievances and then uses those moments to let me know. We’ve been married 57 years of mostly good times so I can ignore him. I’ve heard it all! He’s also coming around on his own about what a sh$t storm is heading our way.
Well what I am saying is, it is very difficult to get around to that level of understanding. So, we are not that far apart. There are a lot of failures of understanding between parents and children, and my inspiration in writing that was both my failures to "get through" to my own parents and also some recent interactions that I look back on to realize that my understanding just was not great enough to "get through" a barrier with anther person just recently (on some matter I have forgotten) where at a later time I gained a better understanding of the problem but it is too late for that one. So, I agree that it is really tough. Also: it seems to me that Parent-child relationships have changed a bit. Kids do not see their parents as "heroes" the way kids of the fifties-sixties did. I actually turned rebellious towards my poor parents around the age of 13, or just after my Jewish bar-mitzvah, which was I supposed a late-sixties "generation gap" phenomenon! I suppose it would indeed take "a whole lot" for a parent to have the necessary level of communication with their children these days and the kids see other lifestyle possibilities at school and there is this tug-war between one desire and the other. Who wants to agree with parents at ---- 15? For example. But I was just saying that with enough "deep understanding" maybe the sublime "knowledge beyond knowledge" could pass right over to the children. I am also influenced by Thic Nat Hahn (Vietnamese Buddhist teacher) who wrote many times about how to communicate with others. It is an open issue; there is a world of insight out there. We tap into only a little of it usually.
Even explaining your choices and decisions as a parents does NOT necessarily affect the choices your children will make as adults. I always talked with my children, explaining things and sharing information always. Fast forward to today and my daughter vehemently now disagrees with me on just about anything medical and otherwise. Never mind I am educated and taught at university along the way in my career. She is now fully jabbed and boosted and calls me crazy, and has walked out of my life.
Now the best part...my adult son was dx as ‘severely autistic’ at almost 3. He was considered ‘advanced’ at 15 months, talking in full sentences, curious, and active...until his 15 month well child visit and MMR and other immis. 24:hrs later he was non communicative, avoided eye contact, head banging, night terrors, food issues, IQ 36, and more. I was told to institutionalize him as he would never function in society. I didn’t listen and found Dr. Feingold, read his books and all the research I could find in 1982. I implanted Dr. F plan and,within six months my son was returning to normalcy. Over the next two years he was followed every 6 months at a child development center and his IQ climbed to over 140! Of course all docs said Feingold was a quack and that while the improvements were unexplainable to them, they never deviated from their little black box of flawed science. Today my son is a bank executive married with two children and very involved in community. Sadly, he also decided to ignore the info shared on C19 BS...took the jabs...and now also I,am the crazy one and I am no longer part of his life.
Just saying parents can involve their,children in life choices and discussions does not mean that the propaganda machine used in todays media and online sites has been extremely effective in its fear campaign and manipulating seemingly intelligent and educated individuals. I have seen it so many times now...
I am amazed by these comments. I don't identify with society. I stopped driving years ago when my two cars disappeared off the streets. I had an iPhone someone gave me free; I lost it but never got another. I am not influenced nor involved with any of these institutions. No one would ever give me a job as I do not pass inspection somehow. The world basically has no part of me. I walk down the street. I take a bus once in a while, and I do not even like doing that. My skepticism goes back to wishing I was part of the "hippie" movement of the sixties. Which I just missed by a hair. I have a very unique history I suppose. The reason I cannot get hired for their fantastic wonderful "jobs" is I am Autistic. Communication is difficult in any case. Today I suppose it is off the map. What a world we live in. This is 'American freedom'? I think persons are legitimately worried about what would happen if the whole thing were to collapse. And these masters of the flawed science world are probably keeping the whole world functioning for us. Somehow we need to see both sides. We need to have compassion for both.
With all due respect to this poor woman, her children sound like ungrateful dolts. But I am very sorry for the pain she is going through with them distancing themselves from her love. Again, what dolts.
One of the Best interviews about vax vs. no vax that I've ever read! Wholly insightful and heart-centered. Bravo and thank you.
1,000%
This is heartbreaking to read. A mother doing her best for her children. I hope her children come back and realise she protected them
Incredible article. I feel this moms pain.
I had my 1st baby at 15 in 1976. Not many vaccines around then but I wanted to be a good teenage mom so she received her 1st at 6wks. Bad reaction but no lasting side effects . Fast forward a few years later ( married now) I had done lots of research and when I had my 2nd in 79 ( born at home ) We were done with shots.
Fast forward I had read several great books Shot in the dark , How to Raise Healthy Children in spite of your Doctor.
I did manage to graduate with my class in 78. Ten years later with 4 small children and loving husband . I went and received my nursing degree.
I have just retired after 36 yrs working in Newborn Nursery and NICU. I loved to argue with the Drs saying I figured it out at 15 not sure why you can’t now !
I had 6 children and 1 is completely vaccinated and Covid too. My others remain unvaxxed. I had 5 boys and my oldest is a daughter. Unfortunately the wife’s have their own mindset so out of 10 grandchildren 7 are vaccinated 5 also took the Covid shot :(
So I definitely feel your pain heartbreak all the emotions out there.
She’s a brave mother, advocate, defender, such a sad story.
Thank you. This is simply heartbreakingly wonderful.
When I read that Anya's children got the covid gene vaccines I literally gasped and said OH NO with my hand in front of my face.
Dear Anya,
You have a beautiful soul. God Bless you, for listening to the Voice. I hear the Voice as well. I would be honoured to be called your friend.
Another excellent article. Thank you.
I was holding my breath while reading the interview, hoping/praying that Anya wasn't going to say that her adult children thought they had missed out by not getting all of their childhood vaccines and thus decided to get ALL of them when they became of age. Whew!
Unfortunately I know a young man who did just that when he went to Uni. He wanted to be like everyone else. He had the entire childhood schedule over 2 weeks. 6 months later, he had a complete mental breakdown. Still struggling to keep it together and on psych meds.
Wow. That is mind boggling and tragic. Your anecdote, Jayne, would make for a fascinating article.
Thanks for publishing. I have a story about the same topic, but my journey was different, and my kids just a bit younger. One key thing I have come to understand is that simply protecting your kids from the health system wasn't good enough.
It was a lot of hard work to keep them from being injected by the system, and I strove to hide that from them as much as possible. What I didn't realize at the time, is there is nothing like a lesson learned on your own. They never did the thousands of hours of research, they never saw the enormous effort, and the facing down of attempts to shame and fear so for them, it's simply a fact and then when they're an adult, the voice of the mob is far louder than the voice of your parents who always sound too cautious to a young adult.
I realized a bit late, that I needed them to really understand the why and what about not trusting the authorities. More nudging in that direction was necessary.
The other challenge is that during the peak of the past few years of medical fascism, one not only had to be a contrarian, one had to have a lot of conviction and courage to stand up against the mob even if you wanted to fight.
I was incensed at our society for threatening my adult children with a substance I had spent their whole lifetimes protecting them from. I know my own mistakes now, I have learned the lesson. No point in remaining angry either, what's done is done. One managed to skirt the rules but one didn't want to conflict with the system. Thankfully no known damage, but I'm still irked.
Now, I have to make up for lost time, because this isn't anywhere near over.
Thanks for sharing that George.
Thank you for writing this beautiful piece ♥️
So many similarities to my life the past few years with adult children, family, and friends. Hard to comprehend the societal destruction that has and is taking place all around us.
Write on, Sister!!
disabled vaccinated children are expensive. unvaccinated might no even need a doctor.
I have not finished the article. If it changes anything I would have canceled this note. You say at the outset, "who had raised unvaccinated children only to see them, as adults, get vaccinated (and injured)."
This is what it seems to me. The parent would need to really explain the reasons for it, giving total understanding to the child. It is easier by far to know "for" somebody to do something than it is to create the understanding in them of what you understand. So the other person never really sees the "why" of what one is doing. So many times it is just impossible to totally explain and life is so short. Many times there are communication glitches between parents and children, where children (sometimes adult) cannot explain the "why" of things or parents cannot explain.
I don't know Anya Kerstin, obviously I wasn't there when she talked to her children at various stages of their lives, but based on my own experience with the people in my life in 2021-present, I would say that to those captured by the covidian mindset all the explanations in the world didn't amount to spit. They were going to jab, jab and jab again-- and that included pregnant women. My own family members (with one exception) and friends were practically hysterical to get their covid injections. It was a phenomenon that so often I thought, no one in the future would believe. But it happened. I witnessed it up close. All of which is to say, explaining things to one's child wasn't necessarily going to change what happened later. People fell into the trap for reasons that did not have to do with intellectual understanding. Literally, with the psy op, that part of their mind shut off.
This week, a friend in my sermon study group who was so afraid she wore 2 masks outside in the middle of winter, gave me a Christmas card with a nice note. She knows I am unvaxxed, as does the rest of them. She had gently shamed me the summer of 2021 which prompted me to send her something calling her out gently on the shaming and my reasons for not vaccinating. As much as I knew then which by then included the horrific realization that this was wholly a plan of the devil from the very beginning--back to the brainwashing over decades. He listens to us and recruits people into the plan. Those recruits were all around us. I didn’t put that in so many words though. Maybe I should have. Her card described me as a “free spirit”. Perhaps I should have asked what that means. Yes, I’m free in Christ. Open to the Holy Spirit. Not sure that’s how she sees it. I cannot talk to my daughter at all about this. Ever. She then recruits her father to say something to me which always turns bad for me as he stores up grievances and then uses those moments to let me know. We’ve been married 57 years of mostly good times so I can ignore him. I’ve heard it all! He’s also coming around on his own about what a sh$t storm is heading our way.
Truly, He is the Prince of Peace in our hearts!!!
👍
Well what I am saying is, it is very difficult to get around to that level of understanding. So, we are not that far apart. There are a lot of failures of understanding between parents and children, and my inspiration in writing that was both my failures to "get through" to my own parents and also some recent interactions that I look back on to realize that my understanding just was not great enough to "get through" a barrier with anther person just recently (on some matter I have forgotten) where at a later time I gained a better understanding of the problem but it is too late for that one. So, I agree that it is really tough. Also: it seems to me that Parent-child relationships have changed a bit. Kids do not see their parents as "heroes" the way kids of the fifties-sixties did. I actually turned rebellious towards my poor parents around the age of 13, or just after my Jewish bar-mitzvah, which was I supposed a late-sixties "generation gap" phenomenon! I suppose it would indeed take "a whole lot" for a parent to have the necessary level of communication with their children these days and the kids see other lifestyle possibilities at school and there is this tug-war between one desire and the other. Who wants to agree with parents at ---- 15? For example. But I was just saying that with enough "deep understanding" maybe the sublime "knowledge beyond knowledge" could pass right over to the children. I am also influenced by Thic Nat Hahn (Vietnamese Buddhist teacher) who wrote many times about how to communicate with others. It is an open issue; there is a world of insight out there. We tap into only a little of it usually.
Thanks for this.
Bless you Mrs B.
You, too, dear ExcessDeathsAU.
Even explaining your choices and decisions as a parents does NOT necessarily affect the choices your children will make as adults. I always talked with my children, explaining things and sharing information always. Fast forward to today and my daughter vehemently now disagrees with me on just about anything medical and otherwise. Never mind I am educated and taught at university along the way in my career. She is now fully jabbed and boosted and calls me crazy, and has walked out of my life.
Now the best part...my adult son was dx as ‘severely autistic’ at almost 3. He was considered ‘advanced’ at 15 months, talking in full sentences, curious, and active...until his 15 month well child visit and MMR and other immis. 24:hrs later he was non communicative, avoided eye contact, head banging, night terrors, food issues, IQ 36, and more. I was told to institutionalize him as he would never function in society. I didn’t listen and found Dr. Feingold, read his books and all the research I could find in 1982. I implanted Dr. F plan and,within six months my son was returning to normalcy. Over the next two years he was followed every 6 months at a child development center and his IQ climbed to over 140! Of course all docs said Feingold was a quack and that while the improvements were unexplainable to them, they never deviated from their little black box of flawed science. Today my son is a bank executive married with two children and very involved in community. Sadly, he also decided to ignore the info shared on C19 BS...took the jabs...and now also I,am the crazy one and I am no longer part of his life.
Just saying parents can involve their,children in life choices and discussions does not mean that the propaganda machine used in todays media and online sites has been extremely effective in its fear campaign and manipulating seemingly intelligent and educated individuals. I have seen it so many times now...
I am amazed by these comments. I don't identify with society. I stopped driving years ago when my two cars disappeared off the streets. I had an iPhone someone gave me free; I lost it but never got another. I am not influenced nor involved with any of these institutions. No one would ever give me a job as I do not pass inspection somehow. The world basically has no part of me. I walk down the street. I take a bus once in a while, and I do not even like doing that. My skepticism goes back to wishing I was part of the "hippie" movement of the sixties. Which I just missed by a hair. I have a very unique history I suppose. The reason I cannot get hired for their fantastic wonderful "jobs" is I am Autistic. Communication is difficult in any case. Today I suppose it is off the map. What a world we live in. This is 'American freedom'? I think persons are legitimately worried about what would happen if the whole thing were to collapse. And these masters of the flawed science world are probably keeping the whole world functioning for us. Somehow we need to see both sides. We need to have compassion for both.
That old meme, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you," seems to apply here.
With all due respect to this poor woman, her children sound like ungrateful dolts. But I am very sorry for the pain she is going through with them distancing themselves from her love. Again, what dolts.