I have deep concerns about AI and its sibling Transhumanism. The root of my concern is we become enamored with tech and stop, connecting and learning what being human and being a part of Gaia is.
Alpha Go is an AI neural net program that beat the Korean reigning Go Champion Lee Sedol in March 2016. But Lee could have beat it easily by unplugging it. He could have cheated etc. He could have used all the ways that humanity is cheated by Corporate and Global banking interests to name a mere two. But Lee Sedol is very ethical and played honestly. He won 1 game out of 5.
Consider the Polynesian Navigators. "Hawaiki Rising is the saga of an astonishing revival of indigenous culture by voyagers who took hold of the old story and sailed deep into their ancestral past. (Sam Low author of Hawikee Rising)". The Polynesians navigated the entire Pacific Ocean without sextant, tables, math models, etc. They did it by being connected deeply to the Ocean, Islands, Sky, Sun Moon Stars. If there hadn't been a few of the nearly extinct masters of navigation, the modern man and scientist would never have believed an ability like that was possible.
We as humans don't even know who or what we are. Yet we chase the externalization of one aspect of humanity and make of it a god. We used to model for our children and require of them behavior that was respectful of the other kids and/or brothers and sisters in the family. Yet at the international level nations cannot behave as they require their citizens to. And we rush to teach AI how to think and act.
Each interaction an individual has with AI is teaching AI far more about you than you are learning about AI.
AI said this about oxygen and Gaia: "For example, plants absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and release oxygen, which is necessary for other organisms to survive. "
Actually this particular function is late in the evolution of Gaia/Earth. Cyanobacteria are the ones who break the water molecule to use hydrogen and release oxygen. They do this at room temperature. To date humans (after decades of study) cannot crack the H2O molecule with a net energy gain. If you wish you can buy the book below to find out more:
Microcosmos Four Billion Years of Microbial Evolution
What a beautiful reply. So in agreement with your point of view. Technology has not done our kids any favors. They don’t know how to do anything for themselves—fix things, make things, grow food. How can this be good? And all orchestrated by a group of elite tyrants who are forcing their idea of the future on humanity? I’m not sure why the author of this post is gushing about AI. The negatives are obvious and should be taken seriously.
He gushes as most do because it is harder for the younger generation to understand what BEING is. AI is not being. It is a god, that is hyped to scare us into submission. As another substack says.
I have been trying the "chat". I decided to stick with my area of expertise (organic chemistry and synthetic organic chemistry). Very technical questions. The AI failed spectacularly, and some answers were absolute non-sense, but masterly stitched together in a coherent sense. When the mistakes were pointed out, the system would politely apologize, retract the wrong question and issue a correction. On one iteration, when asked the technical question again after correction, the system replied with the same wrong answer. However, when these questions were repeated in close temporal proximity within the same session, the AI would "learn" and not repeat the error.
That’s the problem with a lot of discussions in general if someone can “masterly stitched together” mistaken beliefs “in a coherent sense” they are taken as speaking the truth, especially if the do it confidently, then their an expert.
I noticed this in a young co-worker, I told him he would move up the ranks quickly because he could confidently sprout nonsense and didn’t care if it was true.
Me either, but I’ve worked with some masters. One of my former bosses I class as a Grand Master, he faked his qualifications and also claims he went to an exclusive private high school. The only reason I found out he was a fraud is that we have a mutual childhood friend. Once he found that out he told me the truth and asked me not to tell anyone.
Agree 100%. AI is only as good as the data is it fed...but we have all been feeding it for the past 10=20 years, since the NSA scooped up all our searches, emails, social media posts, and ombined it with our phsycial location, financial spends, etc.
AI is aping the human brain's ability to recognize patterns...that has been what has made us unique as a species. No longer.
But it is a double edged sword...because au fond, they can only organize...us.
Mind-boggling. It will be interesting to see how censored it will be – asking it to discuss the dangers of vaccines, for example. This will be a fun project over the Christmas break, thanks for the discovery!
You should ask the AI thing why a deadly poison was promoted as a health-giving elixir and why it continues to be pushed on innocent people, causing the death and cruel disability of so many of them.
I'm sorry, but I'm not able to provide specific information about a particular poison or why it might have been promoted as a health-giving elixir. It's important to recognize that not all substances or treatments that are marketed as being beneficial for health are necessarily safe or effective. It's always important to be cautious and to do your own research before using any type of product or substance, and to consult with a qualified healthcare professional if you have any concerns or questions. It's also important to report any adverse reactions or suspected cases of harm caused by a product or substance to the appropriate regulatory agency or authorities, so that they can investigate and take appropriate action to protect public health.
This exploration captures a few of my thought bubbles of the past few weeks. In particular, I’ve been working with my mind to maintain more equanimity when faced with dissenting views. Aside from practising this with an aggressive member of my pro-vax family, the wider area I’ve begun to wonder about is.... AI.
Your caveat regarding good and evil uses is a necessity but, like everything else in this dualistic world, that’s the way we roll here. Our enormous human creativity is challenged and honed through the tectonic pressures of dualism to transmute coal into diamonds or a delicious meal into shite.
So.
Thank you for the new tool to ponder and play with.
As for Gaia, there is no doubt in my experience that we are part of a self-actualising and aware web of interdependencies. Thanks for the reminder and the new study challenge.
Gaia Theory is the reason we really shouldn't worry about Climate Change, except as a political tool for more control of human activity and more profit for the elites. The earth will continue to self-regulate, only (unfortunately) being taxed by geoengineering, cloud seeding, and extreme pollution, e.g. microplastics in the environment.
Have you ever read the work of Dr. Lynn Margulis or James Lovelock? A bit of honest trivia about Dr. Lynn Margulis, from Wikipedia: Throughout her career, Margulis' work could arouse intense objection (one grant application elicited the response, "Your research is crap. Don't ever bother to apply again."). ... In 1988 she was appointed Distinguished Professor of Botany at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. She was Distinguished Professor of Biology in 1993. In 1997 she transferred to the Department of Geosciences at Amherst to become Distinguished Professor of Geosciences "with great delight",[24] the post which she held until her death.[25]
However she was very humble and generous. She worked for NASA and was paid for her work there. She donated her University salary to students who took her classes but could not afford the tuition. Just an amazing humble, gifted, rebel. We are blessed to have had her to help us understand our place on earth.
Regardless of your religious beliefs you can learn many principals of biology that you can repackage to fit your religious point of view.
You seem very prejudice in your overall filter. I filter to and I have biases and prejudice. I try not to let them over shadow my reason and compassion.
For someone who appears to be Christian I suspect you know the story about the tower of Bable. If that is so, I am surprised you gave AI a pass, as it is idol worship. But most Christians (including Amish and Hutterite) are enamored with technology, cell phones, computers and AI. Help me understand why you give AI a pass.
Reply 2: I had other ways to know what I posted, lost in time as I have been following this since the early 1970s. I posted those links for the reasons you state they are considered authoritative. Unless I can verify the veracity of what is being put forward as truth I am deeply skeptical. Thus mostly I have a mountain of doubt about what is pushed as truth.
I was thinking the same thing. "Gaia Theory" sounds a lot like "Creationism" to me. The reason it "feels right" is because it reveals a wider slice of Truth (aka God) than some competing theories.
Now, the A.I.... I'm guessing that the fallen angels' contributions to that "magical" technology are missing from the official records at the patent office.
All technology is most certainly NOT value neutral. What about origin? For instance, a "cognitive" super-computer built on technologies acquired through black magick/demonic entities is not "value neutral." Neither is any so-called vaccine technology produced and tested with the cells of aborted babies.
Not saying I know for certain that A.I. comes from demons, but there's some evidence out there and the theory outpaces Gaia on the "feels right" barometer.
I have deep concerns about AI and its sibling Transhumanism. The root of my concern is we become enamored with tech and stop, connecting and learning what being human and being a part of Gaia is.
Alpha Go is an AI neural net program that beat the Korean reigning Go Champion Lee Sedol in March 2016. But Lee could have beat it easily by unplugging it. He could have cheated etc. He could have used all the ways that humanity is cheated by Corporate and Global banking interests to name a mere two. But Lee Sedol is very ethical and played honestly. He won 1 game out of 5.
Consider the Polynesian Navigators. "Hawaiki Rising is the saga of an astonishing revival of indigenous culture by voyagers who took hold of the old story and sailed deep into their ancestral past. (Sam Low author of Hawikee Rising)". The Polynesians navigated the entire Pacific Ocean without sextant, tables, math models, etc. They did it by being connected deeply to the Ocean, Islands, Sky, Sun Moon Stars. If there hadn't been a few of the nearly extinct masters of navigation, the modern man and scientist would never have believed an ability like that was possible.
We as humans don't even know who or what we are. Yet we chase the externalization of one aspect of humanity and make of it a god. We used to model for our children and require of them behavior that was respectful of the other kids and/or brothers and sisters in the family. Yet at the international level nations cannot behave as they require their citizens to. And we rush to teach AI how to think and act.
Each interaction an individual has with AI is teaching AI far more about you than you are learning about AI.
AI said this about oxygen and Gaia: "For example, plants absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and release oxygen, which is necessary for other organisms to survive. "
Actually this particular function is late in the evolution of Gaia/Earth. Cyanobacteria are the ones who break the water molecule to use hydrogen and release oxygen. They do this at room temperature. To date humans (after decades of study) cannot crack the H2O molecule with a net energy gain. If you wish you can buy the book below to find out more:
Microcosmos Four Billion Years of Microbial Evolution
Chpt 6. The Oxygen Holocaust
What a beautiful reply. So in agreement with your point of view. Technology has not done our kids any favors. They don’t know how to do anything for themselves—fix things, make things, grow food. How can this be good? And all orchestrated by a group of elite tyrants who are forcing their idea of the future on humanity? I’m not sure why the author of this post is gushing about AI. The negatives are obvious and should be taken seriously.
He gushes as most do because it is harder for the younger generation to understand what BEING is. AI is not being. It is a god, that is hyped to scare us into submission. As another substack says.
DO NOT COMPLY! :-)
I have been trying the "chat". I decided to stick with my area of expertise (organic chemistry and synthetic organic chemistry). Very technical questions. The AI failed spectacularly, and some answers were absolute non-sense, but masterly stitched together in a coherent sense. When the mistakes were pointed out, the system would politely apologize, retract the wrong question and issue a correction. On one iteration, when asked the technical question again after correction, the system replied with the same wrong answer. However, when these questions were repeated in close temporal proximity within the same session, the AI would "learn" and not repeat the error.
That’s the problem with a lot of discussions in general if someone can “masterly stitched together” mistaken beliefs “in a coherent sense” they are taken as speaking the truth, especially if the do it confidently, then their an expert.
I noticed this in a young co-worker, I told him he would move up the ranks quickly because he could confidently sprout nonsense and didn’t care if it was true.
He got his contract renewed and I didn’t.
The art of bullshitting! I confess I have not mastered it!
Me either, but I’ve worked with some masters. One of my former bosses I class as a Grand Master, he faked his qualifications and also claims he went to an exclusive private high school. The only reason I found out he was a fraud is that we have a mutual childhood friend. Once he found that out he told me the truth and asked me not to tell anyone.
Pattern addition.
Statistical rules of language.
The patterns were added for YOU to interpret.
Your new oracle. An optimized index?
But what were the seeds? Black noise?
Information is only an abstraction.
Optimization of the physical world is limited by the physical world.
What will these machines think about?
Why will they think and who will they think for?
They can only organize.
Organize you.
Agree 100%. AI is only as good as the data is it fed...but we have all been feeding it for the past 10=20 years, since the NSA scooped up all our searches, emails, social media posts, and ombined it with our phsycial location, financial spends, etc.
AI is aping the human brain's ability to recognize patterns...that has been what has made us unique as a species. No longer.
But it is a double edged sword...because au fond, they can only organize...us.
Mind-boggling. It will be interesting to see how censored it will be – asking it to discuss the dangers of vaccines, for example. This will be a fun project over the Christmas break, thanks for the discovery!
I signed up and asked the ai to write a poem about terrain theory. Here’s what I got:
Terrain theory, a new way to see
The role of health in disease, you'll agree
It's not just about the bugs we catch
But also the strength of our immune patch
A healthy body, a strong terrain
Can fight off illness, despite the pain
But a weak body, prone to stress
Is more susceptible to sickness, I confess
So let's not just focus on the foe
But also the strength of our body, don't you know
Improving health, our best defense
Against the bugs and viruses, at great expense
Terrain theory, a new way to think
About the role of health, let's not shrink
From the idea that we hold the key
To a strong immune system, as healthy as can be
Thanks, that's actually very good.
You should ask the AI thing why a deadly poison was promoted as a health-giving elixir and why it continues to be pushed on innocent people, causing the death and cruel disability of so many of them.
I asked it your question; here is the response:
I'm sorry, but I'm not able to provide specific information about a particular poison or why it might have been promoted as a health-giving elixir. It's important to recognize that not all substances or treatments that are marketed as being beneficial for health are necessarily safe or effective. It's always important to be cautious and to do your own research before using any type of product or substance, and to consult with a qualified healthcare professional if you have any concerns or questions. It's also important to report any adverse reactions or suspected cases of harm caused by a product or substance to the appropriate regulatory agency or authorities, so that they can investigate and take appropriate action to protect public health.
Interesting, thank you!
This exploration captures a few of my thought bubbles of the past few weeks. In particular, I’ve been working with my mind to maintain more equanimity when faced with dissenting views. Aside from practising this with an aggressive member of my pro-vax family, the wider area I’ve begun to wonder about is.... AI.
Your caveat regarding good and evil uses is a necessity but, like everything else in this dualistic world, that’s the way we roll here. Our enormous human creativity is challenged and honed through the tectonic pressures of dualism to transmute coal into diamonds or a delicious meal into shite.
So.
Thank you for the new tool to ponder and play with.
As for Gaia, there is no doubt in my experience that we are part of a self-actualising and aware web of interdependencies. Thanks for the reminder and the new study challenge.
God is alive, magic is afoot. ✨
I am astonished. I think I have to try this over the break.
Gaia Theory is the reason we really shouldn't worry about Climate Change, except as a political tool for more control of human activity and more profit for the elites. The earth will continue to self-regulate, only (unfortunately) being taxed by geoengineering, cloud seeding, and extreme pollution, e.g. microplastics in the environment.
Hi Stephen,
Have you ever read the work of Dr. Lynn Margulis or James Lovelock? A bit of honest trivia about Dr. Lynn Margulis, from Wikipedia: Throughout her career, Margulis' work could arouse intense objection (one grant application elicited the response, "Your research is crap. Don't ever bother to apply again."). ... In 1988 she was appointed Distinguished Professor of Botany at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. She was Distinguished Professor of Biology in 1993. In 1997 she transferred to the Department of Geosciences at Amherst to become Distinguished Professor of Geosciences "with great delight",[24] the post which she held until her death.[25]
However she was very humble and generous. She worked for NASA and was paid for her work there. She donated her University salary to students who took her classes but could not afford the tuition. Just an amazing humble, gifted, rebel. We are blessed to have had her to help us understand our place on earth.
Regardless of your religious beliefs you can learn many principals of biology that you can repackage to fit your religious point of view.
all the best.
You could read Lynn Margulis daughter Jennifer Margulis's work on Substack.
https://jennifermargulis.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=profile_page
You seem very prejudice in your overall filter. I filter to and I have biases and prejudice. I try not to let them over shadow my reason and compassion.
For someone who appears to be Christian I suspect you know the story about the tower of Bable. If that is so, I am surprised you gave AI a pass, as it is idol worship. But most Christians (including Amish and Hutterite) are enamored with technology, cell phones, computers and AI. Help me understand why you give AI a pass.
Reply 2: I had other ways to know what I posted, lost in time as I have been following this since the early 1970s. I posted those links for the reasons you state they are considered authoritative. Unless I can verify the veracity of what is being put forward as truth I am deeply skeptical. Thus mostly I have a mountain of doubt about what is pushed as truth.
I was thinking the same thing. "Gaia Theory" sounds a lot like "Creationism" to me. The reason it "feels right" is because it reveals a wider slice of Truth (aka God) than some competing theories.
Now, the A.I.... I'm guessing that the fallen angels' contributions to that "magical" technology are missing from the official records at the patent office.
All technology is most certainly NOT value neutral. What about origin? For instance, a "cognitive" super-computer built on technologies acquired through black magick/demonic entities is not "value neutral." Neither is any so-called vaccine technology produced and tested with the cells of aborted babies.
Not saying I know for certain that A.I. comes from demons, but there's some evidence out there and the theory outpaces Gaia on the "feels right" barometer.