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The story of the seven blind men describing an elephant comes to mind. All of them were right, but all were incomplete. I hope to see a unified theory in my lifetime. Great article.

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Thank you. The blind men and the elephant is entirely appropriate here.

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In 2021 Arthur Firstenberg participated in bringing a case to the Supreme Court of the United States challenging the 1996 Telecommunications Act prohibition of state and local regulation of cell towers environmental and health impacts. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.

Having healed long-term inflammation of my knee with Transcutaneous Electrical Stimulation (TENs) after years of ineffective pharmaceuticals, I can attest to the electrical role.

Luc Montagnier’s experiment blows my mind… has anyone replicated the results?

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People using radionics copy vibrations all the time. Homeopathic medicines are made this way. Is it any surprise that Montagnier died during Covid? If lay people are iusing this technology in homeopathy, imagine what the Controllers can do.

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Oh wow! 🙁🧐

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As usual, most grateful for your tireless efforts. I only wish I was in a position to support you with more than words.

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Thanks Dominic, appreciate the words, and enjoy this journey we are on.

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Lol. John?

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🤦‍♂️

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Are there any known experiments which have induced disease electromagnetically?

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I read all of this. Your article is not a scientific study and it doesn't link to any either. How can I even know if any of this stuff is even true without showing any experiments? It's the same thing as your other link, but much longer.

I might as well be reading a book about Martian anatomy or something. It's overly complicated and whimsical. Why not just link to all the science that supports your theory?

This isn't hard. THere should be a simple experiment of animals or humans, (not tiny little worms grown in a culture), and just fry the humans with varrying levels of 5G over given time periods and compare those to a control group that doesn't get fried with EMF.

Why not just do that?

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Well, there's one experiment running now on brain tumors of cell phone users with about 7 billion participants... https://jackkruse.com/microwaving-kresser/

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Thanks for the links. I'll check them out.

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I read this. There's no scientific study in this article. It doesn't provide any links to any scientific studies either. However, the author at least refers to a study, but he fails to include a link, in addition to the title of the study. Why not just link the original scientific paper? Doesn't that seem weird. THe article does link to some books you can buy on amazon. Here's the only information we get from your link:

"OMRF scientist Kenneth Miller, Ph.D., studied the function of a common protein in these disease called CaM Kinase II in tiny roundworms called C. elegans. His research appeared in a recent issue of the journal Genetics."

So I had to look this guy up on Google Scholar in order to find this thing. He's just a Corresponding author: Kenneth Miller, Ph.D. Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation; 825 Northeast 13th St., Oklahoma City, OK 73104. E-mail: millerk@omrf.org

Here's the actual study:

https://academic.oup.com/genetics/article/194/1/143/6065388

They grew worms in cultures and then did a bunch of PCR and Electron microscopy...THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 7 HUMANS OR CELL PHONES OR BRAIN TUMORS...no wonder they didn't link the actual study!

From the abstract: (Emphasis mine): Neurons must cope with extreme membrane trafficking demands to produce axons with organelle compositions that differ dramatically from those of the cell soma and dendrites; however, the mechanism by which they accomplish this IS NOT UNDERSTOOD. Here we use electron microscopy and quantitative imaging of tagged organelles to show that Caenorhabditis elegans axons lacking UNC-16 (JIP3/Sunday Driver) accumulate Golgi, endosomes, and lysosomes at levels up to 10-fold higher than wild type, while ER membranes are largely unaffected.

Materials and methods: Worm culture and manipulation essentially followed pre- viously described methods (Brenner 1974; Stiernagle 2006). Briefly, culture media was modified NGM, containing no added calcium or magnesium, and consisted of the follow- ing (per liter): 2 g NaCl, 3.1 g peptone, 3.0 g KH2PO4, 0.5 g K2HPO4, and 20 g Sigma A-7002 agar. After autoclaving and cooling to 55 the following was added (per liter): 1.6 ml 5 mg/ml cholesterol in ethanol, 1.0 ml of 100 mg/ml streptomycin in ddH2O, and 1.25 ml of 10 mg/ml mycostatin suspension in ethanol....PCR amplification and sequencing of the unc-16 gene coding region in ce421, ce451, and ce483 mu- tant genomic DNAs revealed a nonsense mutation in each of these mutants. We outcrossed ce421 and ce483 five times each and ce451 once, to N2. dhc-1(or195) (Caenorhabditis Genetics Center), and unc-116(e2310) (also known as e2281; Caenorhabditis Genetics Center) had previously been out- crossed at least four times to wild type and we did not further outcross them."

Weak Bro.

Is there a real scientific study that studies the effects of EMF on humans?

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I'm not defending his citations but he has lots of good information.

Loads of studies, many of which are Russian. https://jackkruse.com/emf-5-what-are-the-biologic-effects-of-emf/

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How do you know that this information is good? Again, ZERO scientific studies. Strike 4 and you're out! This guy is total quack. We're being taken for a ride. He wants to sell books. Here's the only thing remotely alluding to a "scientific study".

"This experiment I mentioned above, was just replicated in humans using cell phones that I linked to earlier in the EMF series. Cell phones increase permeability of the gut barrier and the brain blood barrier to alter physiologic function directly."

I assume this is what he's referring to 3 pages earlier:

"Howard Friedman, Robert Becker, and Charlie Bachman all great U.S. scientists, found in the middle of the 2oth century that “abnormal natural” electromagnetic fields were affecting the human mind and causing a direct increase in psychiatric hospital admissions. They went a step further. They took human volunteers and exposed their brains to magnetic fields placed so that the lines of force passed through their brain ear to ear, cutting across the brain stem- frontal electric current that is present in the human brain normally. This is very similar to what one does every time they talk on a cell phone today. The fields they used were from 5-11 gauss in strength. This was 10-20 times the Earth’s background magnetic field and well above the strength of most of the solar or lunar storms humans normally faced in the last 4 million years. They found that steady fields produced no biologic affect, but when they modulated the field ever 5 seconds (pulsed it) or so people’s cognition and reaction times slowed dramatically."

Why not just link those "studies". Did they even really happen? If so, what are the Materials and Methods? Sample sizes? Control Groups?

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Again, no scientific study. YOu're selling books. I'm having more doubt than ever about all of this 5G stuff. Not a good look bro.

Perhaps I'm mistaken and I overlooked a link to a study. If that's the case, then apologies in advance. But as of now I could not find anything and I spent a lot of time reading through it.

This guy gets it. Glad you left your comment section open.

Joshua Williams

Scientist, Educator, Communicator

(5 Years ago)

"Literally the biggest load of unscientific garbage I've ever read. Actually sharing with friends so that we can have a laugh."

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I'm not selling anything. Doubt 5G at your peril. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580522/

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Nope. This isn't a scientific study. (It also relies on the false assumption that an "imaginary" virus was the cause of respiratory illness in Wuhan, (nothing to do with all the chemical air pollution!). Whatever, these "scientists" state in their "abstract":

"In this study, we examined the peer-reviewed scientific literature on the detrimental bioeffects of WCR and identified several mechanisms by which WCR may have contributed to the COVID-19 pandemic as a toxic environmental cofactor."

2. Methods

An ongoing literature study of the unfolding pathophysiology of SARS-CoV-2 was performed. To investigate a possible connection

to bioeffects from WCR exposure, we examined over 250 peer- reviewed research reports from 1969 to 2021, including reviews and studies on cells, animals, and humans. We included the world literature in English and Russian reports translated to English, on radio frequencies from 600 MHz to 90 GHz, the carrier wave spectrum of WCR (2G to 5G inclusive), with particular emphasis on nonthermal, low power densities (<1 mW/cm2), and long-term exposures. The following search terms were used in queries in MEDLINE® and the Defense Technical Information Center (https:// discover.dtic.mil) to find relevant study reports: radiofrequency radiation, microwave, millimeter wave, radar, MHz, GHz, blood, red blood cell, erythrocyte, hemoglobin, hemodynamic, oxygen, hypoxia, vascular, inflammation, pro-inflammatory, immune, lymphocyte, T cell, cytokine, intracellular calcium, sympathetic function, arrhythmia, heart, cardiovascular, oxidative stress, glutathione, reactive oxygen species (ROS), COVID-19, virus, and SARS-CoV-2. Occupational studies on WCR exposed workers were included in the study. Our approach is akin to Literature- Related Discovery, in which two concepts that have heretofore not been linked are explored in the literature searches to look for linkage(s) to produce novel, interesting, plausible, and intelligible knowledge, that is, potential discovery [49]."

Bruh, that's not an experiment. This is a pathetic attempt to Frankenstein a bunch of other old papers to fit their BS narrative.

It's like "5g" is the backup plan for people who can see through the BS "virus" narrative. It's another false narrative. There is no virus and the people in Wuhan were breathing shitty polluted air. The "virus" AND "5G" are both scapegoats.

THere's "5G" everywhere! Why didn't other metropolitan areas have this "Wuhan" issue if it were actually for real?

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The goalposts you keep moving are on roller skates.

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You've provided 3 links to a guy named Jack Kruse who is selling things. ..but sure, you're not selling any books directly. You got me.

I'll take a look at this ncbi article. Thanks for sharing.

I was wondering if you were a bot or an agent, but having read through some of your posts, I think you're a real human. I noticed you wrote this:

"There are now tests that can not only detect who was really jabbed, but even identify which jab was taken."

Source: https://timothywiney.substack.com/p/the-defining-moment-of-our-time

For real? Do you have a source for this? I've never heard of this before.

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I've got to repost the "meat" of your argument here, as it's too burried in the trhead for anyone else to find. This is your legacy bro:

Timothy Winey

Timothy’s Newsletter

23 mins ago

The effects of non-native non-thermal EMF's are well established. If you don't want to see them, I can't help you. I'm working on countermeasured to mitigate some of these effects. I have conducted many simple plant growth experiments that are very alarming. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361307459_Microwave_heating_of_a_Starch_and_Sodium_Alginate_Emulsion

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You've got to be kidding me. Is my browser broken? Is YOUR study really just one paragraph with a picture of two cups?

Citations (0) References (0)

Scientific integrity: ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much did the UK government pay you for this single paragraph?!

You should have titled this: "One Winey Two Cups"!

I'll go ahead and copy/paste your entire "study"....

Microwave heating of a Starch and Sodium Alginate Emulsion

Wednesday, June 15, 2022

Timothy Winey

200 ml of a starch Alginate emulsion was prepared by mixing at high speed then split into two100ml samples. One sample was exposed to a torsion held for 20 minutes after which both samples were simultaneously heated opposite each other atop a rotating plate in a traditional microwave oven. After a total of 12 minutes of microwave heating, the volume in the torsion field sample (left) was roughly double that of the control sample (right). Note that the control sample shows a semi-rigid gel that remained fixed to the bottom of its dish while the experimental emulsion ran down after both samples were tilted 45 degrees. It appears that torsion-exposedStarch Alginate emulsions are be&er able to dissipate heat (resist evaporation) than controls.

(Picture of two cups with white creamy liquid).

Classic!

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I'm going to conclude our conversation here under your original comment. Thanks for the debate. (All of the things you cited are before 5G was invented anyway).

Bruh, there's 5G all over New York City! And! Most New Yorkers are healthier than average Americans just for the simple fact that they walk a lot more often. The fatness differential is undeniable just by walking out into the street and making a simple observation.

If 5G is really has a "toxic effect" on people, then it should effect everyone at least a little.

Just like if I made every New Yorker drink 10 shots of whiskey. A lot of small children would be dead, and most adults would either get almost dead or at least really sick. (People like me would be buzzed). There should be no difference if we did an equivalent study with "10 shots of pulsating 5G" on every New Yorker.

I've been planning on doing a 5G article on my blog and this conversation has been very helpful for my research. I hear that Arthur Firstenberg and Frances Leader are two big names on this topic and I'll challenge them soon. Take care bro.

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I want to separate the EMF discussion. I have an engineering degree, and I have acquired a lot of semi-professional EMF measurement equipment over the past 2 decades.

First, there is no question in my mind that EMFs interact with biological organisms for reasons you note from the book. In fact, there are well document observations from labs that the Voltage Gated Calcium Channels (VGCCs) of cells are measurably affected by EMFs. I have not seen adequate quantification of what happens to our cellular systems in these environments, but it would be foolish to assume such an effect was benign. We simply haven't figured out specifically what will happen under what conditions.

Having said that, I find all of the "accusations" of the invention of XX electrical device for the cause of plagues etc severely lacking in credibility and rigor. There are a lot of aspects of EMFs, namely direction, strength and frequency all of which have a huge impact on what they interact with. Second, the rollout of these technologies was never ubiquitous. All of them were rolled out slowly over time, sometimes with different technical implementations, so the notion that a single pandemic or plague event was associated with the introduction of these technologies is amateur without a precise correlation of technologies, times, and places correlating with the emergence of these new diseases in those same times and places. I have yet to see one single author even remotely address this.

I looked into the 5G question relating to COVID-19, and I found the idea near laughable. 5G has a massive range of implementation options, some of which barely differ from the existing cellular networks in place today. The notion that COVID-19 was caused by 5G rollouts is readily debunked simply by the fact it was rolled out in some locations long before COVID-19 and didn't exist in many places after COVID-19 showed up there.

Early telegraph machines used hand crank electrical generators to power a signal and then there was no signal. They were very low voltages and so the EMFs would not have travelled very far.

There are so many confounding factors that accompany the introduction of electrical devices in history, namely larger and more dense cities and industrialization which created a lot of pollution which more readily explain disease outbreaks.

The introduction of radar etc, was also no where near ubiquitous, so again, can't explain how diseases could travel to remote communities far far away from the EMFs of any of these devices.

I have no doubt that ELFs could easily have an impact on biological life, perhaps explaining the phenomenon of people getting sick near wind turbines which create sound frequencies in the ELF range. However, none of our electrical devices operate in that range, and newer technologies are nowhere near that frequency spectrum.

The details of this matter a lot, and I find all of these theories severely lacking.

Like I said, I limit EMF exposure in my own house -- in particular, the sleeping areas -- and I always have, because I'm pretty confident it adds stress to the body.

I also think it is highly probable that different frequencies interact with biological life.

Have you ever researched "rife" machines?

However, I know with pretty high certainly, that EMFs do not explain pandemics, and waves of diseases, and observed behaviour akin to immunity for diseases that have passed through populations long before the advent of our electrical infrastructure.

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You really need to read Firstenberg's book, even if only to publish rebuttals. On this specific point "Early telegraph machines used hand crank electrical generators to power a signal and then there was no signal. They were very low voltages and so the EMFs would not have travelled very far. " he goes into some detail with first-hand accounts of the prevalence of various physical & mental conditions correlated with early telegraph and telephone operators...

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Even though they were low voltage, they still required more power than your cellphone or Wi-Fi does to send signals over great distances (due to resistance and impedance in the wires).

The lowest for data is fiber of course but even gigabit Ethernet uses tiny amounts of power.

It's the total power that induces electrical current in the cells etc. The cellphones of the 90s used much more power than ones today. They were so powerful they had huge batteries and lasted minutes on them instead of hours today.

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Hi Rob,

I am sure you know that cell phones are broadcasting in a completely different frequency and don't involve a pair of wires that will cancel out many of the EMFs generated.

As I noted above, I don't doubt that the local operators of the telegraph were subjected to fields, and probably pretty low frequency ones but I highly doubt there was any measurable field exposure for the general public, until telegraph lines were run in an infrastructure like we see phone lines today which goes back to my point about the ubiquitous assumption of some of these claims that lack rigor due to lack of precision related to the correlation of exposure with time and place and the emergency of claimed diseases.

As I noted below, I'll also bet that the telegraph operator was probably one of the earliest jobs that required a person to think a lot all day while sitting at a desk operating a machine that probably gave them RSI as well.

Without far more specificity it does not qualify as credible evidence of the influence of telegraphs over new types of diseases in my mind.

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For operators sure. They probably would have been exposed to quite a few fields all day long as they were the ones turning the hand crank on the generator.

They were probably one of the first people ever to sit at a desk job all day long...

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pp52-62 if you're interested.

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At the root of all of this is the denial of interconnectedness of all "things". Our bodies communicate with each other constantly -- that's a premise that is generally not explored with any open mindedness. Germ theory sits there as a guard against any intelligent exploration of this key dynamic. (Actually, it's the human ego who sitting there.). The interface between what we call "our body" and someone else's body is unknown territory, so to speak. Modern science, so called, has grown out of this faulty premise, it depends on this state of ignorance. Of course we are vibrating beings of immense intelligence and our bodies are interconnected. If we can accept that cells are highly intelligent (duh) and precognitive and communicating with each other "between bodies" (how do you like them apples) then contagion becomes a fascinating topic and not a weapon of mass control employed by fear porn. It is an exciting time to be alive, we are witnessing and experiencing the awakening of humanity to the reality that we are all interconnected. And that doesn't have to be scary!!!!

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Yes, I can't help thinking you are right. We sense "a vibe" both from individuals (you know, when your partner is mad with you about something & you sense it right away before anything is said or even before you gain sight of each other!) or in a group. Some form of resonant communication is taking place.

And on the point about "Science" I have now seen how the modern manifestation of specialisation, false assumptions, modelling, grants and funding and corruption has led to (paraphrasing someone, please post the original citation if you have it) a process where "scientists find out more and more about less and less until each of them knows everything about nothing"

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Are you calling me a Sponge?........D

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The key concepts: 1) virus (as an agent transmitting a health deterioration process), 2) transmission (the transfer of a disease process from one body to another), 3) contagion (the property of the environment under which similar disease processes are triggered in different bodies).

These three terms seem to successfully divide people into believers (formerly known as scientists) and the bad ones (people who ask questions and are not satisfied with blanket, circular or self-perpetuating answers). This seemingly “modern” approach to dividing the otherwise pretty much homogeneous society is merely a version of the old-style witch hunt.

There is a group of self-appointed people who have occupied the positions from which they give themselves the right and authority to decide what others can or cannot do, based on some magical tricks known only to themselves and to their advocates (wearing usually white coats, using a hermetic language, following specific rites which are not available to laypeople, and generally regarding anybody outside of their fold as unclean, or an inferior caste who does not deserve to be treated like equal to them). Until recently, this cult was led by an elderly, smart-talking man calling himself The Science.

All three characteristics refer to processes which reduce the living capacity of the body. The extensive public enquiry (done by Christine Massey) resulted in ZERO official documents confirming the existence of any samples of the “virus” in the repositories of institutions around the world, and ZERO documentary or otherwise evidence of the other two concepts. The said institutions were free to respond in any way suitable for them and to provide only a reply to the tune of “yes, we have xxx samples of virus yyy, zzz documents which prove a, b or c”. In 2024, about 40 years after the industry-wide launch of the IBM XT computer machine in 1983 worldwide, providing such a detailed reply would take five minutes or less. But this didn’t happen.

We can speculate about what is the nature of these three processes or whether we use the proper name for them. This doesn’t change the results of Christine’s enquiry: the leading “scientific” medical institutions of the world provided zero evidence of all three. Which is contrary to common sense. The public discussion whether the “virus” exists or not is # 1 scientific debate in the world, although the medical cult do their best to marginalize it and deflect attention elsewhere. Therefore, providing a broad range of evidentiary documents would only bring benefit to the medical cult, ending the schism within the scientific community and reinforcing the already totalitarian control of the medical cult over public life. But it didn’t happen.

Why would anyone waste time and energy on further discussing the issue? The leading authoritative institutions of the medical cult have officially confirmed the absence of any evidence to any of the three issues.

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Very helpful. Interesting to see that the healthy didn’t get sick by their fluids/germs. I remember all 5 of us kids getting chicken pox around the same time. My oldest brother and sister got it, and then my second oldest brother, my youngest sister, and I next. I feel like I remember hearing that it is better to be sick/infected w this virus, this way and when you are younger. Then, I heard if you got chicken pox you will have that virus in you forever and it could lead to shingles later. That it is the same virus…..

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Same virus, but it's the chicken pox "vaccine" that is behind most of the severe adult shingles cases. Natural illness/infection seems to help prevent severe outbreak of shingles later.

From Children's Health Defense site:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-varicella-vaccine-skyrocketing-shingles-and-cdc-chicanery/

"Following natural chickenpox infection, the virus remains latent in the body. If reactivated later in life (usually in immunocompromised adults), the virus resurfaces in the form of shingles (herpes zoster or HZ). Before introduction of the vaccine, the high prevalence of natural chickenpox in communities served to hold shingles in check for most adults by regularly boosting a type of immunity called cell-mediated immunity. In fact, a 2002 study showed that exposure to natural chickenpox in adults living with children “was highly protective against [herpes] zoster.” Those authors cautioned that mass chickenpox vaccination was likely to cause a major shingles epidemic and predicted that shingles would affect “more than 50% of those aged 10-44 years at introduction of vaccination.” Before and after introduction of the vaccine, researchers also warned of the vaccine’s potential to shift the average age of chickenpox infection upward—a problematic scenario given that chickenpox is more severe in adults—while shifting downward the average age at which shingles occurs."

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Yes. Exactly

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I have a lot of doubts about EMF/5G. I just don't see how these mechanisms could be playing their role that's being claimed during the 2020 "pandemic" (which was all an illusion). I think the evidence points to death by aggressive medical protocols like Remdesivir and ventilation for 11-21 days straight, all caused by fear and bogus "PCR tests".

All energy waves must have a transmission source. The further away you are from the source, the less it will effect you, and once you're far enough away, the "energy" from that wave will be totally dissipated. Just like sound. You must be very close to hear a "whisper sound wave", but you can still "hit your target" from 100s of yards away if you were to use your "yelling sound wave" phaser setting. It's even possible to kill someone with sound waves if you've got enough juice!

The central problem at the core of "virology" is the lack of repeatable experiments with the use of controls. I'm glad you cited Rosenau. I love that study, (I just wish the sample size was 100x more).

Are there any known "Rosenau type" experiments with energy waves?

I would love to see a study which exposes a large sample set of humans to varying levels of "5G" energy waves in order to see understand their effects at different amplitudes and distances. (Or perhaps there are other frequencies or combinations that are of concern?) 5G is 60Ghz energy waves correct? (Or is it more complicated than that?)

Essentially, is it possible to make a home-made "mini 5G death ray" to do some simple experiments? (Or at least a mini - "Make-me-sick-ray"). Seriously, if this EMF/5G thing is for real, then we should be able to induce "flu like symptoms" very easily.

Lastly, in places like New York City, there are literally thousands of all different types of high powered transmitting antennas. (Many of them are placed directly on residential apartment complexes with families living 5 feet below and array of them). Wouldn't people living in NYC be "sick" all the time. (Most New Yorkers are already mentally deranged to begin with!)

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All good questions. If/when I come across answers I will write more on the subject.

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Great work. Thank you.

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Thanks Tim, was going to mention Becker's book (Body Electric). I've probably read that book ten times...

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I read The Invisible Rainbow and was floored. What if he's right? What if we have here is a reduced ability to process oxygen due to an increase in exposure to electricity resulting from the adoption of 5G? Would go a long way toward explaining why counties with 5G and lots of electricity use had so much higher death rates. More studies and more discussion on this fascinating area of study please.

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The Maunder Minimum is discussed in the climate doc-

https://youtu.be/oYhCQv5tNsQ?si=wcBtX12x5Kt6rGs4

corresponding to changes in atmospheric conditions related to temps, but not in the way the current narrative would have you believe.

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Thank you for sharing Real Information.

Humanity madness; just like the documentary villain film makers did to the Lemmings, they herded the Lemmings over a cliff. All for a wow factor.

How many humans saw that doco and never gave a damn thought that one day it will be humans herded over a cliff?

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This is so good. Thank you. I’ve been following the exosome research and trying to figure out the other components, and this will help a lot

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Not sure if you are one to take requests but it would be awesome if you could synthesize this with AMidWesternDoctor's take on Zeta Potential in the blood.

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I wonder how much of a difference it would make to purchase those units that allegedly get rid of dirty electricity.

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ET..You might appropriately have put quote marks around 'Allegedly'??

I have no idea how these function or if they are effective. But, "Fear" is the best marketing tool ever invented. The gimmick has been used for many thousands of years, as have "Placebos".

No one would know for sure unless they purchased a device and had a measurable positive result. Perhaps it even depends on the individual? As the article correctly stated, "Different people are affected differently by electricity."

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Yes, Firstenberg continually reiterates that different individuals have different susceptibilities.

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Perhaps even beyond than that:

I'm no expert on any of this. But, perhaps the effects of EMF differ depending of the emotional state of the subject. This seems to be the case with contacting charged conductors?

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