The central tension several readers identify—how can I praise high-dose vitamin C therapy while questioning whether vitamins exist?—deserves a direct answer.
The essay distinguishes between two claims: (1) synthetic compounds produce biological effects, and (2) those effects prove the compounds exist in nature as discrete entities. The first is demonstrable. The second is assumed.
Keith provided something valuable: a direct quote from Szent-Györgyi himself. When a colleague with hemorrhagic diathesis took paprika, he was cured. When Szent-Györgyi later tried to replicate this with pure ascorbic acid, "we obtained no response." The discoverer of vitamin C found that the isolated compound failed where the whole food succeeded. This is the matrix argument stated by the man who named the molecule.
pobrecollie asks the pragmatic question: if it works, does the identity question matter? For therapeutic purposes, perhaps not. If high-dose ascorbic acid reverses a toxic state, use it. But for understanding what health requires—and whether we need industrial products or simply need to eat differently—the question matters considerably.
klimer raises a concern worth taking seriously: could questioning vitamins serve pharmaceutical interests by creating confusion? The essay argues the opposite direction—that whole foods work through mechanisms we don't need to fully understand, while the supplement industry profits from the deficiency framework. But I appreciate the suspicion. After five years of watching narratives weaponized, skepticism about any argument's ultimate beneficiaries is reasonable.
hillcountry draws a parallel to Larson's critique of nuclear theory—the same logical structure where preconceived ideas determine which interpretation of identical evidence gets accepted. The vitamin A research Genereux traced follows this pattern exactly.
eileen points toward what I think is the right direction: relationship with living systems rather than molecular inventories. Whether we call it energetic, electrical, or simply "what traditional preparation preserved," something in whole foods sustains health that isolation destroys.
Horsea T. asks whether the Swiss really ate only butter, cheese, and organ meats. No—Price documented their full diet including rye bread and vegetables. The point was the absence of supplements, not the absence of variety.
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🧪 Step 2: The Solvent Miracle™
Take any food you like — fruit, butter, liver, cod oil.
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🌀 Wash it repeatedly
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✨ Success! Whatever appears at the end must have been there all along.
📌 Important Rule: Never ask whether the process itself created the compound. That’s not how discovery works.
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Proper science starts with a hypothesis — but we prefer conclusions first.
🐀 Feed animals a highly processed “deficiency” diet
🍳 Bonus points if heating converts food into something toxic
😱 Observe illness
🍊 Add whole foods back
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🚫 Don’t ask whether the original diet was harmful
🚫 Don’t consider dilution effects
🚫 Don’t revisit the experiment later with better tools
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🧠 Step 6: Confuse Effects with Existence
Did injecting a synthetic compound cause dramatic biological effects?
Scurvy was initially cured with citrus fruits, leading to the hypothesis of vitamin C. Ascorbic acid is the chemical isolated in the way you describe, labeled as vitamin C.
Is it the same as what is found in citrus fruits?
Maybe, quite possibly not.
Does it prevent / treat scurvy?
Yes.
If it has the desired effect, that is pretty useful.
At the end of the day, your digestive tract does a lot of hash chemical processing as well, breaking down food.
That is not entirely true. From Szent-Gyorgyi himself.
"I am talking in such detail about this substance (eriodictin, later called Vitamin P by Szent-Gyorgyi) because of a small accident that happened to us at that time. I had a letter from an colleague who was suffering from a severe hemorrhagic diathesis (vascular type). He wanted to try ascorbic acid in his condition. Possessing at that time no
sufficient quantities of crystalline ascorbic acid, I sent him a preparation of paprika that contained much ascorbic acid and the man was cured by it.
Later, with my friend, St. Rusznyak, we tried to produce the same therapeutic effect in similar conditions with pure ascorbic acid but we obtained no response. It was evident that the action of paprika was due to some other substance present in this plant."
Excerpted from, ON OXIDATION, FERMENTATION, VITAMINS, HEALTH AND DISEASE
I love your articles and they are very thought provoking, but there are so many contradictions between them.
I just finished the one on vitamin C, now we are told that vitamins might not exist. Similarly there are articles doubting the existence of viruses while many other reference the effects of viruses.
it is confusing indeed, but it sets your mind to think. I go with what works. If vitamin C works for certain illnesses, like the former articles states. by all means use it. But if certain vitamins do not work for you, find your own truth. As CG Jung said: truth is what works for you. Since we are all unique human beings, and even our animals are all unique beings, what is good for person A might not be so for B! Just like one told me yesterday I should eat more meat and drop the nuts and olive oil - they work for ME and you eat all the meat you want, I will do with the little bit my body wants.
I have never heard anyone suggest that olive oil is bad until now.
Southern Europe consumes a lot of it and is generally pretty healthy. Here in Spain it's regarded as a consumer measure of inflation, the price of oil (olive oil being implied), there were big complaints a couple of years ago, after some bad harvests due to drought combined with he Ukraine warw (which increased the price of sunflower oil a lot and I assume had a knock on effect to olive oil).
It was my first, too. I suppose the person who reacted to it, was someone who only goes with animal fats. He can have all he wants! I sparingly use butter in a few recipes but by far prefer olive, coconut and avocado oil. Here in the US it is sometimes hard to find good quality olive oil, and it is indeed pricey. Your explanation might be a reason for that! Last 3 years it doubled in price.
Prices have come down again this year (was 3 euros for a litre of basic quality stuff, went up to 6, now its around 4), maybe it will make its way to your markets.
There is talk of fake olive oil in Spain, but I think for the most part we get the real thing for a decent price. You can go posh and buy expensive stuff which has great flavour for dipping bread in. And plenty of options in between.
The Spanish seem a lot healthier and slimmer than my home country (Scotland), though I have noticed the younger generation are getting fatter than when I arrived in 2008. My guess is that it's because more processed food is becoming available here.
Another difference is that in the UK, it's quite a middle class thing to be a food snob, whereas here, even the working class appreciate good quality food.
Soy is added to almost all processed food including canned goods. When you see “natural flavoring” on a can of tomato sauce or on unsalted butter boxes, it is soy added to thicken.
Jung?!?! Why would anyone quote, let alone rely upon Jung for anything? He was a cannibal monster magician and a proud member of the oligarchical empire with the intent to deceive, dominate and enslave you and your ancestors. His mystical bullshit is ridiculous and needs to be eliminated from public discourse, except as an example of the political conspiracy to enslave your mind.
I get so sick of reading Jung thrown around as an alleged authority regarding anything. There are numerous, thorough exposures of Jung and his cannibal partner Freud (fraud) that can be found now. Educate yourself to whom they are and the evil they created and stop poisoning reality with them, especially in a forum attempting to protect humans from poison.
Can you provide any further info on Jung which might encourage us to agree that he was indeed a cannibal monster magician? I'm not disagreeing with you; because I just don't know much about Jung. But your description has caused my ears to perk up and I'd like to know more. Thanx.
Virus is an older term when it actually meant bug. Our bodies are riddled with bugs. Ie parasites, that cause diseases. Look up Laura Rorher, The Rooeworm protocol.
Analysing vitamins led to their synthesis, where the finished product bears little resemblance to the natural substance of which it is an analogue...It may even be toxic...
I think they are toxic. Search for the sds, safety data sheet on any vitamin and you will see the truth. Remember, the truth is out there for those who look. Those who don’t look or accept the lies suffer the consequences
Search “safety data sheet on vitamin d” for example, on any search engine. So many lab results displaying the truth.
this is what I have been wondering too. Even if the original vitamin exists (there is proof that large amounts of vitamin C can work wonders on some illnesses) how do we know that the synthetic is the same, or even near, to the original?
What has all this chemical medicine helped to make people healthy? Someone responded on another page, that people live way longer than, let's say, 100 years ago. True, but do you want to live to 100 demented and in a wheel chair? Mom lived like that the last 3 years of her life. As long as your are mobile and in good mind, I think everyone will want to live. But in these retirement homes filled with Altzheimer, demented and crippled people, I wonder how many would want to continue if they had a choice. (I am not propagating killing them like they recently started doing in Canada though).
"Bakers laced bread with alum and bone meal to stretch flour; brewers dosed beer with arsenic for froth; milkmen diluted cow’s milk with water, chalk, or even formaldehyde to mask spoilage. These practices exacted a huge public health toll, contributing to infant mortality rates as high as 150 per 1,000 live births in industrial cities like Manchester in the nineteenth century."
There was "sugar of lead" added to cider to sweeten it and lead used to seal bottles and casks. Further there were "vaccine" laws which resulted in a lot of child deaths see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_Act.
Also arsenic in wall paper (green) and paint. Surprising that any of our ancestors survived!!
WOW no wonder people died young. I knew a few of these... like mask spoiled milk. Deleting is still done, what else is that watery milk without milk fat. Probably treated with chemicals as well. I only use cream!
And then combined with the poor hygiene 100 years ago!
With all this speculation out now about vitamins, germs, parasites or viruses being real or just labels being given a pattern of symptoms because money talks (big anything, including supplements), what if our health depends upon our relationship with our planet? And I am NOT talking about or asking whether vegetarianism or veganism is better. Remember herbivores eat plants and transform them into something that those higher on the food chain like us or wolves can use.
Earth and plants vibrate at a specific frequency and when the planet evolved, so do the plants and herbivores who consume these plants. Likewise those higher on the food chain will also evolve with the plants. This is why those preparing and eating the traditional way are healthier even though they eat saturated fats and red meat, the so called nutritional no-nos if you want to be healthy.
We have allowed industrial interests to mess with earth to such a point that toxicity is everywhere. What if what we call 'illness' isn't so much a germ or a parasite as it is a cleansing. Fevers kill invaders. Our skin is the biggest elimination organ in the body. What if itchy skin is the liver using the skin to expell toxins and the best management is to give the body what it needs and manage the Herxheimer reactions we call 'disease'?
In Chinese medicine, pathogens aren't the only invaders; weather is as well and they manage weather invasions, such as the common cold with the same protocol (different herbs and acupuncture points) as they do invasions which cause a febrile (fever) state. In other words management of energetic states (relationship with the planet).
GMO food, CAFO-raised herbivores, synthetic vitamins, pharmaceuticals, some supplement components (those added to prevent clumping) interfere with our relationship with the planet so that we are cut off from the planet, both spiritually and electrically, a state known as ungrounded do we don't real the benefits of what nature has to offer. Traditional methods preserve that energetic relationship so you don't get sick nor do you have to spend oodles of money to try and simulate what the planet gives you without charge IF you respect it.
Yes, this makes sense. It also could help explain the push over the last two decades to normalize body art and piercings which cannot be good for our largest organ.
Our bodies have evolved over the millennia to adapt to diets different from the caveman version of raw meat and a few plant materials (also unheated). The major advancement was cooking, and, long afterwards, discovery of grains and their entry into the human diet, first as the wild version, and then as being bred this way and that. And it also depends on what part of the earth your ancestors are from. There is no "tradition" (dietarily speaking) which can last forever. Our bodies do indeed move with the times.
Thanks eileen. To me; "relationship with the planet" represents relationship with all *energies* of biological forms we were born into. These energies are not "gods" nor chemical factors. We are/were a holistic dialog... We are/were exchange and balance within existence. The exchange is a profound silence... Best regards.
So vitamin supplements are pharmaceuticals. If you take a statin, be sure and supplement with CoQ10! And let us not forget the biologics correcting the “genetic” wrongs of needles. Being aware is a full-time job.
Vitamins, viruses, atoms, and climate-killing CO2 molecules are all conveniently invisible, happily for the controllers. We just have to believe what we're told:).
I think the basic premise that you are conveying is that science is a belief system, that some things are unknowable due to all the alchemy required to achieve a result. And also that most of science can't be known empirically because it can take years to learn just a few basic facts, so we can't possibly verify personally even a small fraction of the science that exists. We need to trust that what science tells us is true, but we also know that during the past 50 years we've been flooded with corrupt health science whose only purpose is to assure corporate profitability.
I'm not too sure that amplifying a message of "evil vitamins" (aside from Vitamin A) isn't part of Big Pharma's current agenda. Once the government censorship apparatus started being partly dismantled, they needed a different way to maintain fear and uncertainty. That way is the Tower of Babel - support as many diametrically opposed narratives as possible, so that the average person will throw their hands up in the air and quit trying to make sense of anything.
If science is a belief system, my personal belief is that the correct way for me to formulate my belief system is to ignore most of the health science that has been created in the past 50 years. The exceptions would be independent researchers like Becker and Pollock, stuff produced by docs who've overcome health challenges that their peers couldn't solve (Tennant, Bergman, Berg, Mercola), and books by guys like Levy who do the deep dive and take the time to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Regarding "rob", any liquid back in those days would have been transported in barrels, possibly even old barrels used to transport things like rum or turpentine. Either the wood of the barrel, or traces of whatever had been in there before adding the citric juice, could reduce rob's acidity. So the problem with the early experiment could have been that there was no way at the time to avoid contaminating the rob - that nature's packaging was just more efficient at preserving what was inside than the manmade packaging in use at the time. Also, refrigeration may have been necessary for the rob to last for months during a typical ocean voyage, to prevent the rob from being oxidized. The same experiment today, with the rob being stored in inert glass containers and/or being refrigerated would likely produce different results.
The trouble is that few people today understand that glass bottles weren't machine produced until the 1890s, and that they were quite thick and heavy compared to today's bottles. Even hand blown glass bottles weren't produced in significant quantities until at least the 1870s. They might presume the rob was stored in bottles, when they didn't exist in quantity when the experiment was made, and that transporting a lot of tiny bottles vs a small number of large kegs would have added weight and required more storage space on an already cramped ship.
There's a mountain of evidence and experience that Vitamin C has massive beneficial effects. At this point, whether it is the active ingredient in citrus fruit that saved sailors from scurvy is immaterial. Large doses of C do some pretty spectacular things for the human body, and those are doses that would equate to bags of oranges per day. The argument over perfect analogs and natural-vs-manmade is utter nonsense.
Yes, our society and our science is massively ignorant. But somehow that ignorance still managed to find something remarkable in ascorbic acid. And someone was smart enough to realize that there's not enough citrus to extract all the ascorbic acid we need, so they figured out how to make it from vats of mold.
Making ascorbic acid/Vitamin C the poster child for explaining that science is a belief system probably isn't the best choice. It's something that actually works. It's something that actually greatly reduces our need to interact with a predatory healthcare system. I personally keep a year's supply on hand for when the global economy takes a nosedive later this year.
It's the kind of silly argument (logical fallacy) designed to make people question that there is any value at all in ascorbic acid. And that's because once you get adequate ascorbic acid on board (way more than the RDA) your need for regular doctor visits is vastly reduced. And if you don't see the doc, how can you get prescriptions-for-life? It blows up the whole medical pharming model.
So what the heck is Unbecoming trying to prove here? I've looked at the argument again, and it makes no sense. Does isolated vitamin C cure scurvy? I have never heard that it does not. Heat-killed rob does not cure scurvy.
Vitamin C was just an example. The overall concept, that we may not know what we all collectively think we know, is a great message.
We only “know” what we experience empirically. Everything else is simply a belief: a belief that what we are told about science, even that which has been corrupted to assure corporate profitability ($cience), is true. After all, science is $cience. At least phonetically.
When your worldview is shaped by what you believe, that’s a religion. So science is the new religion. A religion intended to exploit each of us as fodder for corporate profitability.
Once you understand that it is a religion and that it is being used to manipulate your behavior, you gain the capacity to avoid being manipulated.
If you are reasonably intelligent and open minded, that means you’ll like fare a bit better than the herd in general, by making your own decisions rather than following herd behavior.
Vitamin A was a great example: the inability to rectify things when a supposed nutrient turns out to be a toxin.
Admitting that the initial research was wrong and based upon incorrect assumptions undermines the primacy of science as the unassailable truth. If people don’t believe the religion, they won’t believe the priests who preach the beliefs.
The problem is that there is plenty of good science that is free of corporate bias. If we can’t distinguish science from $cience, we’ll end up throwing out the baby with the bathwater. And one of the babies could be ascorbic acid.
Appreciate the excellent expose! Coincidentally, I just finished Dewey B. Larson's book: The Case Against the Nuclear Atom (copyright 1963) (second printing 2024). Similar arguments about faulty models leading to numerous idiotic things defended by the silo that is modern physics, via those indoctrinated to forego questioning Rutherford's assumptions. Larson points out that the original argument based on the known characteristics of radioactivity are summarized as:
* Under certain conditions atoms disintegrate
* Electrons are found among the disintegrating products
*Therefore, electrons are constituents of atoms
He proceeds to write that: "At first glance this argument may seem sound, and in the formative years of the nuclear hypotheses it was accepted without question. Even today it is still orthodox doctrine. But the true status of the argument can be brought out clearly by stating the analogous argument concerning the photon.
* Under certain conditions atoms disintegrate
* Photons are found among the disintegrating products
* Nevertheless, photons are not constituents of atoms."
He writes: "Here we find that on the basis of exactly the same evidence, the physicist arrives at diametrically opposite conclusions. because preconceived ideas concerning the electron suggest that it could be an atomic constituent, the evidence from the disintegrations is accepted as proof that it is, whereas similar preconceived ideas concerning the photon suggest that it could not be an atomic constituent, and exactly the same evidence is therefore taken to mean that the photon was created in the process. Actually, of course, the physical evidence does not distinguish between these alternatives, nor does it preclude the possibility that some other explanation may be correct. What the evidence shows is that the electron either:
* was a constituent of the atom, or
* was preexisting within, but not a part of , the atom, or
* was derived from the surrounding space, or
* was created in the disintegration process, or
* originated from some combination of the foregoing, or
* had some other origin consistent with the evidence."
So, you want to replace one BS theory by promoting another BS theory that is also proven false, anyone over 40 can find a number of examples from their own life that will confirm this and if we are critical of the models and methodology for the first approach then for the second approach at least some minimum should be met, which is never the case and that "doctor" is not a real doctor he does not practice or examine patients, but holds webinars and contacts patients online. That is nonsense, people are naive.
Materialistic science can only look at what is possible to take in with our senses or with instruments that inform our senses. Beyond that science has no knowledge or opinion. And since it can't go beyond matter to find answers, it fragments matter further and further into microscopic components, isolates them and tried to explain them away from the whole. It has always been the problem of science, of modern materialistic dogmatic science.
The problem of alternative science is its lack of funding to give scientists a chance to work together and explore different findings. So they are subject to the same fragmentation that materialism imposes - they work in isolation, each one discovering one or another piece of the puzzle, but not really knowing of each others work! So you have some discovering there is no such thing as a virus, while others continue explaining their own findings with viruses and germs because they did not get the memo.
This substack is putting together all kinds of different discoveries, debunking all kinds of deceptions and stupidity. And yet... a new science will only emerge when the way of doing science changes. Take out finance and state interests from it, make it truly independent, free up thought so people are not censored when they discover things that don't sit well with Big Industry and Big State. In other words, liberate science from the coercion of money and power and you will have a cornucopia of real discovery with real application to benefit us all. And while we are at it, we should also liberate our education system, the arts, the media... all those who are in charge of new ideas and the enrichment of truth in our lives. Ah, one can only dream...
Sure sounds like Big Pharma would love this essay! Ill health is created by chronic consumption of chemicals/toxins from are food supply laced with some of the potential of 10,000 chemicals being part of the equation. Combine that with nutrient deficiencies that are rampant in our processed food system and you have the formula for ill health.Big Pharma of course believes providing more chemicals to treat the ill health is the solution. It is not. If the human body is void of ascorbic acid, you are dead. Just one example. Void of Vitamin D you will die. They will not measure blood value of vitamin D deficiency versus the disease state to determine a correlation.
No, they are all categories of similar chemicals and are not the same as in nature. NYT fact-check of RFK Jr claims on Fruit Loops artificial colors https://maha.shopping/f/nyt-fact-check-of-rfk-jr-claims-on-fruit-loops-artificial-colors Vitamins in foods are extracted with petro-chemicals or acids and are made synthetically as groups of chemicals. Your Vitamin C in foods and drinks comes from Black Mold, not Oranges. Citric Acid called MCA comes from GMO corn. Niacinamide, the main ingredient in Fireworks. Niacinamide causes Cancer. Vitamin D-D3 is Rat Poison. Reduced Iron, is metallic iron reduced by an acid! Soy Lecitin. GMO Poison... All Vitamins and Supplements are some kind of synthetic poison. Just Google your favorite 'vitamin' and add 'side effects'. https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/codex-alementarious-synthetic-vitamins-gmo-removes-nutrients
Author's Note
The central tension several readers identify—how can I praise high-dose vitamin C therapy while questioning whether vitamins exist?—deserves a direct answer.
The essay distinguishes between two claims: (1) synthetic compounds produce biological effects, and (2) those effects prove the compounds exist in nature as discrete entities. The first is demonstrable. The second is assumed.
Keith provided something valuable: a direct quote from Szent-Györgyi himself. When a colleague with hemorrhagic diathesis took paprika, he was cured. When Szent-Györgyi later tried to replicate this with pure ascorbic acid, "we obtained no response." The discoverer of vitamin C found that the isolated compound failed where the whole food succeeded. This is the matrix argument stated by the man who named the molecule.
pobrecollie asks the pragmatic question: if it works, does the identity question matter? For therapeutic purposes, perhaps not. If high-dose ascorbic acid reverses a toxic state, use it. But for understanding what health requires—and whether we need industrial products or simply need to eat differently—the question matters considerably.
klimer raises a concern worth taking seriously: could questioning vitamins serve pharmaceutical interests by creating confusion? The essay argues the opposite direction—that whole foods work through mechanisms we don't need to fully understand, while the supplement industry profits from the deficiency framework. But I appreciate the suspicion. After five years of watching narratives weaponized, skepticism about any argument's ultimate beneficiaries is reasonable.
hillcountry draws a parallel to Larson's critique of nuclear theory—the same logical structure where preconceived ideas determine which interpretation of identical evidence gets accepted. The vitamin A research Genereux traced follows this pattern exactly.
eileen points toward what I think is the right direction: relationship with living systems rather than molecular inventories. Whether we call it energetic, electrical, or simply "what traditional preparation preserved," something in whole foods sustains health that isolation destroys.
Horsea T. asks whether the Swiss really ate only butter, cheese, and organ meats. No—Price documented their full diet including rye bread and vegetables. The point was the absence of supplements, not the absence of variety.
Thank you for reading.
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Why look for vitamins in living organisms when you can destroy the sample first?
No one’s ever seen a vitamin functioning as a discrete chemical inside a living cell anyway — so why set unrealistic expectations?
💡 Helpful Hint: If someone gets better after eating real food, don’t ask how. Just assume a tiny chemical was trapped inside, waiting for solvents to rescue it.
🧪 Step 2: The Solvent Miracle™
Take any food you like — fruit, butter, liver, cod oil.
Now add acids, bases, alcohol, acetone, heat, oxygen, time, and enthusiasm.
🔥 Heat it
🧯 Cool it
🌀 Wash it repeatedly
🧂 Crystallize something
✨ Success! Whatever appears at the end must have been there all along.
📌 Important Rule: Never ask whether the process itself created the compound. That’s not how discovery works.
📏 Step 3: Define the Problem After You Get the Result
Proper science starts with a hypothesis — but we prefer conclusions first.
🐀 Feed animals a highly processed “deficiency” diet
🍳 Bonus points if heating converts food into something toxic
😱 Observe illness
🍊 Add whole foods back
😌 Observe improvement
🎉 Declare victory: “A vitamin was missing!”
🚫 Don’t ask whether the original diet was harmful
🚫 Don’t consider dilution effects
🚫 Don’t revisit the experiment later with better tools
📸 Step 4: Declare Chemical Identity
Once you’ve isolated a shiny lab compound, announce confidently:
🧠 “This is exactly what exists in food.”
If anyone asks how you confirmed that before destroying the food, respond with authority:
🙄 “The structure says so.”
🔬 “That’s what chemistry means.”
📚 “It’s established science.”
✨ Remember: If two things look the same on paper, biology is not allowed to disagree.
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Does your isolated compound fail to work like real food?
No worries!
🗣️ Say “It needs cofactors”
🗣️ Say “Synergy”
🗣️ Say “Food matrix”
⚠️ Just don’t notice this admits the isolated compound isn’t doing the work on its own.
🧠 Step 6: Confuse Effects with Existence
Did injecting a synthetic compound cause dramatic biological effects?
🎯 Proof!
🚫 Don’t ask whether effects prove natural dietary presence
🚫 Don’t ask whether the body produces compounds dynamically
🚫 Don’t ask whether this is pharmacology, not nutrition
💊 If it does anything, it must be a vitamin.
🌿 Step 7: Ignore Living Context Completely
Living systems are complex, electrical, adaptive, and inconvenient.
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📊 Reduce health to numbers
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I will play devils advocate on this one.
Scurvy was initially cured with citrus fruits, leading to the hypothesis of vitamin C. Ascorbic acid is the chemical isolated in the way you describe, labeled as vitamin C.
Is it the same as what is found in citrus fruits?
Maybe, quite possibly not.
Does it prevent / treat scurvy?
Yes.
If it has the desired effect, that is pretty useful.
At the end of the day, your digestive tract does a lot of hash chemical processing as well, breaking down food.
If identity is unproven, equivalence is assumed, not demonstrated.
That is not entirely true. From Szent-Gyorgyi himself.
"I am talking in such detail about this substance (eriodictin, later called Vitamin P by Szent-Gyorgyi) because of a small accident that happened to us at that time. I had a letter from an colleague who was suffering from a severe hemorrhagic diathesis (vascular type). He wanted to try ascorbic acid in his condition. Possessing at that time no
sufficient quantities of crystalline ascorbic acid, I sent him a preparation of paprika that contained much ascorbic acid and the man was cured by it.
Later, with my friend, St. Rusznyak, we tried to produce the same therapeutic effect in similar conditions with pure ascorbic acid but we obtained no response. It was evident that the action of paprika was due to some other substance present in this plant."
Excerpted from, ON OXIDATION, FERMENTATION, VITAMINS, HEALTH AND DISEASE
by Albert V. Szent-Gyorgyi
You nailed it again! "Vitamin Isolation™ – Where Reagent Abuse Creates Reality!™"
You're damn funny. Thanks!
😀👍 HUGE thanks! 👍 Turns out that tagline is equally at home with “Virus Isolation™” and “DNA Isolation™.
I have been questioning this vitamin subject for years too. SO MUCH of our supposed "science" is just black magic hocus pocus.
One thing I have noticed...since the covid scam a lot more people are questioning some of these things, and this is good.
I love your articles and they are very thought provoking, but there are so many contradictions between them.
I just finished the one on vitamin C, now we are told that vitamins might not exist. Similarly there are articles doubting the existence of viruses while many other reference the effects of viruses.
it is confusing indeed, but it sets your mind to think. I go with what works. If vitamin C works for certain illnesses, like the former articles states. by all means use it. But if certain vitamins do not work for you, find your own truth. As CG Jung said: truth is what works for you. Since we are all unique human beings, and even our animals are all unique beings, what is good for person A might not be so for B! Just like one told me yesterday I should eat more meat and drop the nuts and olive oil - they work for ME and you eat all the meat you want, I will do with the little bit my body wants.
I have never heard anyone suggest that olive oil is bad until now.
Southern Europe consumes a lot of it and is generally pretty healthy. Here in Spain it's regarded as a consumer measure of inflation, the price of oil (olive oil being implied), there were big complaints a couple of years ago, after some bad harvests due to drought combined with he Ukraine warw (which increased the price of sunflower oil a lot and I assume had a knock on effect to olive oil).
It was my first, too. I suppose the person who reacted to it, was someone who only goes with animal fats. He can have all he wants! I sparingly use butter in a few recipes but by far prefer olive, coconut and avocado oil. Here in the US it is sometimes hard to find good quality olive oil, and it is indeed pricey. Your explanation might be a reason for that! Last 3 years it doubled in price.
Prices have come down again this year (was 3 euros for a litre of basic quality stuff, went up to 6, now its around 4), maybe it will make its way to your markets.
There is talk of fake olive oil in Spain, but I think for the most part we get the real thing for a decent price. You can go posh and buy expensive stuff which has great flavour for dipping bread in. And plenty of options in between.
The Spanish seem a lot healthier and slimmer than my home country (Scotland), though I have noticed the younger generation are getting fatter than when I arrived in 2008. My guess is that it's because more processed food is becoming available here.
Another difference is that in the UK, it's quite a middle class thing to be a food snob, whereas here, even the working class appreciate good quality food.
Soy is added to almost all processed food including canned goods. When you see “natural flavoring” on a can of tomato sauce or on unsalted butter boxes, it is soy added to thicken.
Jung?!?! Why would anyone quote, let alone rely upon Jung for anything? He was a cannibal monster magician and a proud member of the oligarchical empire with the intent to deceive, dominate and enslave you and your ancestors. His mystical bullshit is ridiculous and needs to be eliminated from public discourse, except as an example of the political conspiracy to enslave your mind.
I get so sick of reading Jung thrown around as an alleged authority regarding anything. There are numerous, thorough exposures of Jung and his cannibal partner Freud (fraud) that can be found now. Educate yourself to whom they are and the evil they created and stop poisoning reality with them, especially in a forum attempting to protect humans from poison.
Can you provide any further info on Jung which might encourage us to agree that he was indeed a cannibal monster magician? I'm not disagreeing with you; because I just don't know much about Jung. But your description has caused my ears to perk up and I'd like to know more. Thanx.
His description has cause my eyeballs to roll back so hard I needed to put them in a sling.
Welcome to science.
the $cience...
Virus is an older term when it actually meant bug. Our bodies are riddled with bugs. Ie parasites, that cause diseases. Look up Laura Rorher, The Rooeworm protocol.
Look up Kim paddock.
The pathology comes first; parasites ensue.
Analysing vitamins led to their synthesis, where the finished product bears little resemblance to the natural substance of which it is an analogue...It may even be toxic...
I think they are toxic. Search for the sds, safety data sheet on any vitamin and you will see the truth. Remember, the truth is out there for those who look. Those who don’t look or accept the lies suffer the consequences
Search “safety data sheet on vitamin d” for example, on any search engine. So many lab results displaying the truth.
this is what I have been wondering too. Even if the original vitamin exists (there is proof that large amounts of vitamin C can work wonders on some illnesses) how do we know that the synthetic is the same, or even near, to the original?
What has all this chemical medicine helped to make people healthy? Someone responded on another page, that people live way longer than, let's say, 100 years ago. True, but do you want to live to 100 demented and in a wheel chair? Mom lived like that the last 3 years of her life. As long as your are mobile and in good mind, I think everyone will want to live. But in these retirement homes filled with Altzheimer, demented and crippled people, I wonder how many would want to continue if they had a choice. (I am not propagating killing them like they recently started doing in Canada though).
Regarding life expectancy, have a read of this one:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-183777098
Talking about Victorian England:
"Bakers laced bread with alum and bone meal to stretch flour; brewers dosed beer with arsenic for froth; milkmen diluted cow’s milk with water, chalk, or even formaldehyde to mask spoilage. These practices exacted a huge public health toll, contributing to infant mortality rates as high as 150 per 1,000 live births in industrial cities like Manchester in the nineteenth century."
There was "sugar of lead" added to cider to sweeten it and lead used to seal bottles and casks. Further there were "vaccine" laws which resulted in a lot of child deaths see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_Act.
Also arsenic in wall paper (green) and paint. Surprising that any of our ancestors survived!!
that's a good illustration, and reminds me of what the current medical cartel is doing to us just to make lots of cash for their investors.
WOW no wonder people died young. I knew a few of these... like mask spoiled milk. Deleting is still done, what else is that watery milk without milk fat. Probably treated with chemicals as well. I only use cream!
And then combined with the poor hygiene 100 years ago!
thanks for the link !
And we are told it's because of vaccines.....
Get vaxxed or you are anti science! Greatest health invention ever.....
Vitamin D
"As long as your are mobile and in good mind, I think everyone will want to live."
Sure - in a society at least halfways sane. But with digital ID and everything coming out of that - well, I am not so sure.
With all this speculation out now about vitamins, germs, parasites or viruses being real or just labels being given a pattern of symptoms because money talks (big anything, including supplements), what if our health depends upon our relationship with our planet? And I am NOT talking about or asking whether vegetarianism or veganism is better. Remember herbivores eat plants and transform them into something that those higher on the food chain like us or wolves can use.
Earth and plants vibrate at a specific frequency and when the planet evolved, so do the plants and herbivores who consume these plants. Likewise those higher on the food chain will also evolve with the plants. This is why those preparing and eating the traditional way are healthier even though they eat saturated fats and red meat, the so called nutritional no-nos if you want to be healthy.
We have allowed industrial interests to mess with earth to such a point that toxicity is everywhere. What if what we call 'illness' isn't so much a germ or a parasite as it is a cleansing. Fevers kill invaders. Our skin is the biggest elimination organ in the body. What if itchy skin is the liver using the skin to expell toxins and the best management is to give the body what it needs and manage the Herxheimer reactions we call 'disease'?
In Chinese medicine, pathogens aren't the only invaders; weather is as well and they manage weather invasions, such as the common cold with the same protocol (different herbs and acupuncture points) as they do invasions which cause a febrile (fever) state. In other words management of energetic states (relationship with the planet).
GMO food, CAFO-raised herbivores, synthetic vitamins, pharmaceuticals, some supplement components (those added to prevent clumping) interfere with our relationship with the planet so that we are cut off from the planet, both spiritually and electrically, a state known as ungrounded do we don't real the benefits of what nature has to offer. Traditional methods preserve that energetic relationship so you don't get sick nor do you have to spend oodles of money to try and simulate what the planet gives you without charge IF you respect it.
Yes, this makes sense. It also could help explain the push over the last two decades to normalize body art and piercings which cannot be good for our largest organ.
Our bodies have evolved over the millennia to adapt to diets different from the caveman version of raw meat and a few plant materials (also unheated). The major advancement was cooking, and, long afterwards, discovery of grains and their entry into the human diet, first as the wild version, and then as being bred this way and that. And it also depends on what part of the earth your ancestors are from. There is no "tradition" (dietarily speaking) which can last forever. Our bodies do indeed move with the times.
Thanks eileen. To me; "relationship with the planet" represents relationship with all *energies* of biological forms we were born into. These energies are not "gods" nor chemical factors. We are/were a holistic dialog... We are/were exchange and balance within existence. The exchange is a profound silence... Best regards.
So vitamin supplements are pharmaceuticals. If you take a statin, be sure and supplement with CoQ10! And let us not forget the biologics correcting the “genetic” wrongs of needles. Being aware is a full-time job.
what is really in the powder called CoQ10? Most vitamins are industrial filth.
Vitamins, viruses, atoms, and climate-killing CO2 molecules are all conveniently invisible, happily for the controllers. We just have to believe what we're told:).
I enjoyed this article and your other articles.
I think the basic premise that you are conveying is that science is a belief system, that some things are unknowable due to all the alchemy required to achieve a result. And also that most of science can't be known empirically because it can take years to learn just a few basic facts, so we can't possibly verify personally even a small fraction of the science that exists. We need to trust that what science tells us is true, but we also know that during the past 50 years we've been flooded with corrupt health science whose only purpose is to assure corporate profitability.
I'm not too sure that amplifying a message of "evil vitamins" (aside from Vitamin A) isn't part of Big Pharma's current agenda. Once the government censorship apparatus started being partly dismantled, they needed a different way to maintain fear and uncertainty. That way is the Tower of Babel - support as many diametrically opposed narratives as possible, so that the average person will throw their hands up in the air and quit trying to make sense of anything.
If science is a belief system, my personal belief is that the correct way for me to formulate my belief system is to ignore most of the health science that has been created in the past 50 years. The exceptions would be independent researchers like Becker and Pollock, stuff produced by docs who've overcome health challenges that their peers couldn't solve (Tennant, Bergman, Berg, Mercola), and books by guys like Levy who do the deep dive and take the time to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Regarding "rob", any liquid back in those days would have been transported in barrels, possibly even old barrels used to transport things like rum or turpentine. Either the wood of the barrel, or traces of whatever had been in there before adding the citric juice, could reduce rob's acidity. So the problem with the early experiment could have been that there was no way at the time to avoid contaminating the rob - that nature's packaging was just more efficient at preserving what was inside than the manmade packaging in use at the time. Also, refrigeration may have been necessary for the rob to last for months during a typical ocean voyage, to prevent the rob from being oxidized. The same experiment today, with the rob being stored in inert glass containers and/or being refrigerated would likely produce different results.
The trouble is that few people today understand that glass bottles weren't machine produced until the 1890s, and that they were quite thick and heavy compared to today's bottles. Even hand blown glass bottles weren't produced in significant quantities until at least the 1870s. They might presume the rob was stored in bottles, when they didn't exist in quantity when the experiment was made, and that transporting a lot of tiny bottles vs a small number of large kegs would have added weight and required more storage space on an already cramped ship.
There's a mountain of evidence and experience that Vitamin C has massive beneficial effects. At this point, whether it is the active ingredient in citrus fruit that saved sailors from scurvy is immaterial. Large doses of C do some pretty spectacular things for the human body, and those are doses that would equate to bags of oranges per day. The argument over perfect analogs and natural-vs-manmade is utter nonsense.
Yes, our society and our science is massively ignorant. But somehow that ignorance still managed to find something remarkable in ascorbic acid. And someone was smart enough to realize that there's not enough citrus to extract all the ascorbic acid we need, so they figured out how to make it from vats of mold.
Making ascorbic acid/Vitamin C the poster child for explaining that science is a belief system probably isn't the best choice. It's something that actually works. It's something that actually greatly reduces our need to interact with a predatory healthcare system. I personally keep a year's supply on hand for when the global economy takes a nosedive later this year.
What kind of a silly argument is that, regarding rob? Heat kills vitamin C. And they cooked the crap out of it.
It's the kind of silly argument (logical fallacy) designed to make people question that there is any value at all in ascorbic acid. And that's because once you get adequate ascorbic acid on board (way more than the RDA) your need for regular doctor visits is vastly reduced. And if you don't see the doc, how can you get prescriptions-for-life? It blows up the whole medical pharming model.
So what the heck is Unbecoming trying to prove here? I've looked at the argument again, and it makes no sense. Does isolated vitamin C cure scurvy? I have never heard that it does not. Heat-killed rob does not cure scurvy.
Vitamin C was just an example. The overall concept, that we may not know what we all collectively think we know, is a great message.
We only “know” what we experience empirically. Everything else is simply a belief: a belief that what we are told about science, even that which has been corrupted to assure corporate profitability ($cience), is true. After all, science is $cience. At least phonetically.
When your worldview is shaped by what you believe, that’s a religion. So science is the new religion. A religion intended to exploit each of us as fodder for corporate profitability.
Once you understand that it is a religion and that it is being used to manipulate your behavior, you gain the capacity to avoid being manipulated.
If you are reasonably intelligent and open minded, that means you’ll like fare a bit better than the herd in general, by making your own decisions rather than following herd behavior.
Vitamin A was a great example: the inability to rectify things when a supposed nutrient turns out to be a toxin.
Admitting that the initial research was wrong and based upon incorrect assumptions undermines the primacy of science as the unassailable truth. If people don’t believe the religion, they won’t believe the priests who preach the beliefs.
The problem is that there is plenty of good science that is free of corporate bias. If we can’t distinguish science from $cience, we’ll end up throwing out the baby with the bathwater. And one of the babies could be ascorbic acid.
Appreciate the excellent expose! Coincidentally, I just finished Dewey B. Larson's book: The Case Against the Nuclear Atom (copyright 1963) (second printing 2024). Similar arguments about faulty models leading to numerous idiotic things defended by the silo that is modern physics, via those indoctrinated to forego questioning Rutherford's assumptions. Larson points out that the original argument based on the known characteristics of radioactivity are summarized as:
* Under certain conditions atoms disintegrate
* Electrons are found among the disintegrating products
*Therefore, electrons are constituents of atoms
He proceeds to write that: "At first glance this argument may seem sound, and in the formative years of the nuclear hypotheses it was accepted without question. Even today it is still orthodox doctrine. But the true status of the argument can be brought out clearly by stating the analogous argument concerning the photon.
* Under certain conditions atoms disintegrate
* Photons are found among the disintegrating products
* Nevertheless, photons are not constituents of atoms."
He writes: "Here we find that on the basis of exactly the same evidence, the physicist arrives at diametrically opposite conclusions. because preconceived ideas concerning the electron suggest that it could be an atomic constituent, the evidence from the disintegrations is accepted as proof that it is, whereas similar preconceived ideas concerning the photon suggest that it could not be an atomic constituent, and exactly the same evidence is therefore taken to mean that the photon was created in the process. Actually, of course, the physical evidence does not distinguish between these alternatives, nor does it preclude the possibility that some other explanation may be correct. What the evidence shows is that the electron either:
* was a constituent of the atom, or
* was preexisting within, but not a part of , the atom, or
* was derived from the surrounding space, or
* was created in the disintegration process, or
* originated from some combination of the foregoing, or
* had some other origin consistent with the evidence."
Combine a virus with a vitamin to get a virusamin! The next scientific frontier beckons! 😀
So, you want to replace one BS theory by promoting another BS theory that is also proven false, anyone over 40 can find a number of examples from their own life that will confirm this and if we are critical of the models and methodology for the first approach then for the second approach at least some minimum should be met, which is never the case and that "doctor" is not a real doctor he does not practice or examine patients, but holds webinars and contacts patients online. That is nonsense, people are naive.
Materialistic science can only look at what is possible to take in with our senses or with instruments that inform our senses. Beyond that science has no knowledge or opinion. And since it can't go beyond matter to find answers, it fragments matter further and further into microscopic components, isolates them and tried to explain them away from the whole. It has always been the problem of science, of modern materialistic dogmatic science.
The problem of alternative science is its lack of funding to give scientists a chance to work together and explore different findings. So they are subject to the same fragmentation that materialism imposes - they work in isolation, each one discovering one or another piece of the puzzle, but not really knowing of each others work! So you have some discovering there is no such thing as a virus, while others continue explaining their own findings with viruses and germs because they did not get the memo.
This substack is putting together all kinds of different discoveries, debunking all kinds of deceptions and stupidity. And yet... a new science will only emerge when the way of doing science changes. Take out finance and state interests from it, make it truly independent, free up thought so people are not censored when they discover things that don't sit well with Big Industry and Big State. In other words, liberate science from the coercion of money and power and you will have a cornucopia of real discovery with real application to benefit us all. And while we are at it, we should also liberate our education system, the arts, the media... all those who are in charge of new ideas and the enrichment of truth in our lives. Ah, one can only dream...
Sure sounds like Big Pharma would love this essay! Ill health is created by chronic consumption of chemicals/toxins from are food supply laced with some of the potential of 10,000 chemicals being part of the equation. Combine that with nutrient deficiencies that are rampant in our processed food system and you have the formula for ill health.Big Pharma of course believes providing more chemicals to treat the ill health is the solution. It is not. If the human body is void of ascorbic acid, you are dead. Just one example. Void of Vitamin D you will die. They will not measure blood value of vitamin D deficiency versus the disease state to determine a correlation.
No, they are all categories of similar chemicals and are not the same as in nature. NYT fact-check of RFK Jr claims on Fruit Loops artificial colors https://maha.shopping/f/nyt-fact-check-of-rfk-jr-claims-on-fruit-loops-artificial-colors Vitamins in foods are extracted with petro-chemicals or acids and are made synthetically as groups of chemicals. Your Vitamin C in foods and drinks comes from Black Mold, not Oranges. Citric Acid called MCA comes from GMO corn. Niacinamide, the main ingredient in Fireworks. Niacinamide causes Cancer. Vitamin D-D3 is Rat Poison. Reduced Iron, is metallic iron reduced by an acid! Soy Lecitin. GMO Poison... All Vitamins and Supplements are some kind of synthetic poison. Just Google your favorite 'vitamin' and add 'side effects'. https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/codex-alementarious-synthetic-vitamins-gmo-removes-nutrients