I haven’t read this one yet. Let me grab a third cup first, then I’ll dig in.
Without reading it, I’ll say this. My great grandmother was born in 1867 and died in 1973, when I was a freshman in college. She lived just shy of 106 years. For 90+ years on her farm she started her days the same way. Visited the outhouse. Did 10 toe touches. Ate bacon and eggs for breakfast. Made a big pot of ‘cowboy’ coffee, which she kept simmering on the woodstove in the kitchen all day. By the time she had her last slug, just b4 bed, it was so thick you could stand a spoon upright in it.
I have to agree Moody. There are just too many things in this "Modern World", which "Experts" say a BAD FOR YOU? Anecdotally, I grew up in a family of coffee drinkers and my Mother lived independently to 95 years. For my part; I began drinking coffee in my late teens and through 35 years of commercial fishing (15-20 hr days) I drank 30-40 cups per day. Today, at 73, I am still drinking a lot of coffee (perhaps weaker?) But, I still consider myself healthy.
|I think we should be less concerned with what other people do and 'expound', than what our own bodies tell us?
Disclaimer" Some people might say that "Coffee" has caused my contrarian nature?
LOL. Totally agree. It is interesting. I wrote about my great grandma. But both my parents, and my wife’s parents lived well into their 90s. My FIL is still living, at 98. He drank no coffee, tea, or soda and did not eat candy. My MIL died at age 96. Coffee was literally the only beverage she drank. All day, every day. My mom died at age 94. She was a heavy coffee consumer, and she also drank a lot of coke. She also had perfect teeth and never had a cavity her entire life (I only wish I had gotten her teeth versus my dads). My dad lived to 96 and he was an on and off coffee drinker, although his last 10 years he drank more. And then there was my grandma (dads side). No coffee. But she went through a case of coke per week. Easily. When it came 24 to a case in the 6.5oz bottles. She lived to 100.
I’m 69. If I don’t have my morning coffee it is not going to be a good day. And that’s the way it’s been since I was about 15. And that’s the way it will stay.
Loved your ‘disclaimer’. I am certain coffee has nothing to do with my contrarian nature, as my mom always told me I was a contrarian in the womb.
Very interesting about your former vocation. I come from a long, long line of seafarers and fisherman and people who made their livelihood from the sea. My wife and I have lived full time on our gracefully aging 35ft sailboat since 2011. And in the 33 years prior to that we lived on our boat 5-6 months out of the year.
And as you know even way better than me, there is no way to get through 4 hours on 4 hours off routine on a long passage with just a crew of two without the coffee pot full and gimballed on the stove, ready to be reheated when the mate shakes you awake and says, “you got 10 to be on deck. And oh, BTW, there’s been a windshift, it’s blowing 30, I had to shorten sail, we are dead downwind, and unless you can figure out how to get the autopilot to steer, you’ll be at the wheel until midnight. And don’t even think about waking me early. Now you got 7. But I did light the burner”.
Metabolizing caffeine does vary individually. I love it but can no longer tolerate it and gene differences are involved. My 104 year old grandma swore by Vic's VapoRub under her nostrils each night or morning maybe 🤔
Almost anything that you can fit in your mouth is edible. The question is whether it's digestible or poisonous. I'll bet that with the addition of a pinch of cinnamon and sugar Vicks would clear up mucus inside of me.
I think it is vaseline based so too much would be a laxative. The essential oils include camphor which isn't typically considered edible and mint which is edible. Lemongrass essential oil is good for clearing congestion and citrus ones would be if not allergic.
One thing I continually wonder about is that there seem to be an increasing number of people living to very advanced ages and being healthy until near the very end. These are not people who over the decades followed the type of health practices touted in the various natural health movements nor avoided foods and other items deemed bad for you.
I'm not a coffee drinker. I don't do well with stimulants, they make me feel weird and jittery, coffee tends to loosen my bowels and it makes my urine smell disgusting.
Good gut microbes are a longevity secret. People in their 100s had Akkermansia mucins in common. It protects our gut lining and would help prevent leaky gut.
Jennifer; I know that my "evidence", is not evidence at all. But, is merely personal experience and physiology. However, I will always believe that "Experts" are more concerned with creating their own 'relevance' than with the wellbeing of others?
Quality of life (and contentment) trumps "Quantity" of life, every time.
I just finished a book that included a good discussion of how to tell who to trust - One Idea to Rule Them All - Reverse Engineering American Propaganda, by Michelle Stiles
Academia has been corrupted by funding systems - only the people saying what corporate funders want heard are the ones that get funding. Controversial 'nutrition' research is at risk of having been manipulated in some way by funding/goals. Results that are desired can be achieved generally in some way or another - if not interpretive bias error or outright fraud. I try to look for repeated findings - many studies. GreenMedInfo database gave me a 538 page report on research about pomegranate and health. Too much of anything can be a negative and variation exists in people's ability to use something.
Individual experience is the best way for an individual to learn what works for them - try it with a scientific mindset - one thing at a time, watch for changes. Eliminate for a while, then reintroduce.
Individual case studies used to be a major part of medical research - not the squashing together of all data into one 'evidence-based recommendation for everyone'.
"- try it with a scientific mindset - one thing at a time, watch for changes."
I pretty much agree, but I'm not structured enough to practice it??
Mainly, I do not "Expect" instant gratification from natural foods and medicines. I believe that the instant results from commercial drugs are a result of both:Placebo effect and psychoactive ingredients being added to those drugs?
As others have said here, different chemicals, affect individuals differently.
Also, I believe that there is a component of "Intention". I do know that the Mind can heal the body!
People with bad digestion would be looking for improvements from the bad. If healthy and working on preventing long term issues then yes, changes would be subtle. What I would notice then is once I ran out of a supplement or routine product occasionally I would start feeling worse and adding the product would improve things. That would be an indicator to keep myself supplied and doing that routine. I am unusual in that I have multiple gene differences affecting my metabolism. I get worse physically and mentally if I skip too often several nutrients and that is in addition to trying to eat healthy.
my mom is 91 and drinks black coffee daily since forever. she is healthy. i drink coffee every day. healthy. i have two healthy kids. i've already given up weed and booze. i am keeping my coffee. we are a resilient species. common sense goes a long way. JERF: just eat real food, coffee included—with full fat whole milk thank you.
Coffee is not the culprit, sugar is! Coffee is loaded with benefits, sugar is the poison that produces those diseases that are blamed on coffee. My wife and I start our day with a pot of coffee, eggs and bacon and cheese curds and will continue to be healthy at 75 and 76. Never been healthier!
I agree sugar is the (main) poison. I don't do breakfast and have mainly one meal per day at lunchtime because I'm into intermittent fasting. As I've got older, this less-food-intake seems to suit me well. I started it because of digestive problems, so changed my diet and eating routine. Now much better. I've no idea what was 'wrong' since I haven't visited a doctor in 40 years but I feel o.k now. I'll be 68 in a couple of weeks.
As I sit here with my morning coffee (organic) and ponder the question if I want to give up my coffee and all it’s antioxidants and it’s benefits of lowering colon cancer and the goodness of a bitter drink, I think No.
Well, ain't this one a bummer? For myself, I'm not giving it up. There have to be *some* guilty pleasures left, or the cost of "staying healthy" just isn't worth it, lol.
That said, I've been drinking very dark roasts for years. I'd heard that they have less caffeine than regular coffee. (Evidently that is now debated, as every search return has a different take.)
What I do know is that I drink a cup or two a day and feel great. And if I happen to go to a restaurant where regular coffee is served, I not only don't like the taste of it, but immediately get that "caffeine buzz."
There have been scientific studies that prove switching one's morning coffee for green tea takes away 95% of what little joy is left in a middle aged person's life 😂
I believe the darker the roast the less the caffeine. You can test the idea. Get organic green (raw) coffee beans. Green Coffee beans are some of the hardest substances to grind. I know of no other herb or grain that compares.
If you get it ground fine enough you can soft boil in a pan until the water turns brown (light or dark depends on you). Then drink. Do a small cup as I believe raw (green) coffee contains lots of caffeine.
Coffee lightly roasted or dark roasted is so much easier to grind. I believe that is why coffee is roasted.
Thank you, Unbekoming, for taking time to gather and share this important information. Much appreciated ~ and, oh, so interesting to see how strong the hold of addiction is in the majority of comments so far . . . .
🤣👍~ I know. You'd think the fact that people simply can't function without it might be a clue about just how addictive it really is.
TBH, I love the stuff if it is bullet-proof (i.e., drenched in cream and butter and stevia) ~ but my body simply cannot tolerate it, at all. In fact, I feel like those of us with a low tolerance for caffeine are actually the canaries in the coal mine.
Coffee gets too bad of a rep I think, but then again, maybe it's the coffee addict in me saying that.
Ex: Matcha/ green tea is touted as healthier, but has more oxalates, which can form crystals in our body, making us more sensitive to EMF. Coffee has very little oxalate.
I’m suspicious. For instance, If you are not eating carbs those stress hormones are used to generate a substandard energy production. (Gluconeogenisis) Leading to illness and blocked energy because it’s using organs, bones and soft tissue to create glucose (the body’s PREFERRED fuel). . So coffee won’t make much difference if the body isn’t getting enough carbohydrate substrate to fuel energy production at the mitochondria in the first place. Current lowcarb, keto and carnivore plus IF and OMAD is damaging over time. I know because it damaged my metabolism, encourages undereating, thinned my bones, (2 surgeries in 3 years from broken bones) damaged my thyroid, lowers sex hormones and put on belly fat, all on less than 900 calories a day. Perhaps, you should investigate this as truth about what the gurus don’t tell you. This info is leaking out. Sure, we can survive without carbohydrates, but should we. It works for a time because you are defaulting to low calorie and off some bad food like the SAD diet. So there is no magic there. Insulin is not the villain. Sugar (glucose and fructose) is not the devil. It was a revelation to me and I’m trying to correct the damage. It isn’t easy. Yes, I drink coffee, after orange juice in the morning. Then breakfast.
i want to read YOUR blog. that's some good intel right there. talk about food for thought. now i won't feel so guilty every time I consume carbs. I was a sucker for low-carb/paleo/IF, etc etc. thanks for sharing all that.
I didn’t jump into carbs quickly. I first started eating 3 real meals a day. First thing I noticed was I slept better. With dreams and deeper sleep. I then started easy to digest carbs like fruit and a few potatoes, and white rice to get my digestion used to more carbs. Adding any carbs requires a drop in fat. I’ve been slowly doing that to wake up my metabolism, help my hashimotos and try to restore proper energy channels using carbs/glucose. Fruit isn’t a real problem—it’s a combination of glucose and fructose to digest for quick energy (glucose) and fructose to save for restorative energy. Lustig is disingenuous about this. I’m up to about 1800 calories a day. About double I ate before. Maybe 200 grams of carbs. Fat is way down (20-30 %). Yes I gained some weight—payback for denying what my body needed but as energy increases that should change. I don’t eat bread or grains. But loving fruit and some rice and potatoes. Much more variety. I cook veg—not eat them raw because of irritation and antinutrients. Limited dairy, mostly cheese. Milk doesn’t like me. Lol. No seed oils, of course. I learned there is no real need for omega 3s and they are just as damaging as the 6s. Just lower PUFA and you can balance the 2 better. You can get too much added omega 3s and most you buy are oxidized and rancid in some way or another. Waste of money. A lot of myths in this space also. I’m 76 and have no joint pain, hike 3 to 5 miles regularly , high D level and no cravings, even eating fruit. I’d check out Jay Feldman Energy Balance podcast (YouTube). Start at the beginning. Or Kate Deering. I started with her book. Mercola has changed to this and lots of info there. I just got sick and tired of keto and was gaining weight and terrible sleep and anxiety p,us more unwelcome stuff, like insulin resistance . This is after 6 years. It has initial real benefits of course. Sorry, maybe this was TMI. 🤣. If diabetic or other problems, it may be different. Most conventional doctors know very little about our complicated thyroid and they keep raising the levels of thyroid hormones to say “your thyroid levels are normal” keeping most people from helpful treatment. I consider that simple gaslighting. Take care, Mrs Miller.
No worries re TMI. I relate! 😂 very interesting and liberating about omega 3s. gave up fish oil due to nosebleeds anyway so I'll consider that a win. Will check out those recommendations, thank you. I was always after fat loss and anxiety/depression relief. Increasing protein and lowering sugar helped but I went high fat/low carb... nothing contrived lasts, for me anyway. And now that I'm menopausal I just don't care as much. Priorities change and I'm not as rigid or obsessed as I was when I was fertile lol. now I just eat real food, try not to overdo it, and let the macros fall where they may.
900 calories a day on High Fat Moderate Protein Low Carb way of life? I suspect you did not do something right, because that seems clear under eating, and everyone else I've read tells of vastly improved health by going keto or carnivore.
i did strict carnivore for only a week and i can corroborate that it was incredibly hard to eat more than 1200 calories a day. so much beef and fat that you simply cannot overeat. i lost a few pounds but felt sluggish and depressed from the monotony and calorie deficit. i think the starting point is relevant. if you go from the SAD to keto, you'd likely see amazing results. if you're already JERFing it might not be such a good trade off.
Disappointed that decaf (swiss water process) has high levels of caffeine too. I am open to switching to herbal coffees (would welcome any brand recommendations). I tried to look up caffeine levels of caffeinated vs decaf home brew K-cups on Dunkin Donuts and Trader Joe’s websites - could not find this info. Talk about hiding the ball.
The bit about 80% caffeine is decaf is clearly erroneous. I switched to decaf when heart issues make me acutely sensitive to stress. If there was 80% or even 8% caffeine in my decaf I would have definitely known it.
i only started drinking coffee 10 years ago. i can go for days/weeks without, though i like it. one can be addicted to anything. even worry about things, or being sad, or annoyed.
Doh... I usually start the day with a pot of coffee and book reading for the first few hours. And as comedian Robin Williams says - coffee helps jump start his colon. Going to be hard to give up coffee... :(
I can attest to the ability of caffeine to add to stress, whether in coffee or dark chocolate. When I was experiencing heart issues, caffeine would definitely exacerbate the problem. As would anything that added to stress, even something as seemingly benign as driving in light traffic. Six years later, I've recovered enough that I can drink caffeinated coffee now and then (which sometimes happens when the barista gets my order wrong). But it's not fun when I have another one too soon afterward (if that happens, I take a Benadryl).
The human body can deal with less than optimal nutrition, provided you are reasonably healthy and active. In moderation, vices are OK. And coffee in moderation is not much of a vice. But it is important to realize that if you start to experience chronic disease, caffeine may not be doing you any favors and could be helping you dig your own grave a bit faster. And it's probably a bad idea in any amount if your lifestyle involves a lot of external stressors. You are just overwhelming your body's ability to handle excess stress.
Allopathic doctors have a pretty poor record of solving their patient's problems. If they were stupid enough to tell them to stop drinking coffee, they would risk having their patients realize just how bad most of their advice usually is.
I was following Robert W. Malone's Substack for a while. He had heart issues and realized caffeine was starting to have a negative effect. His first thought was to ask his doctor to adjust his heart meds! Yeah, more toxins are going to fix the problem. Poly-pharmacy to the rescue! He should have listened to his body and switched to decaf. At least until his body could have a chance to recover from his recent heart issues.
On item 15, number 8 it is stated that decaf retains 80% of caffeine, and later it is stated that most, but sometimes not all, caffeine is removed from decaf. If the former were true, I'd never have been able to make the switch to decaf. The latter is more accurate.
Exercise, which improves energy production, can mitigate a lot of bad habits. Jacques Anquetil was one of the greatest cyclists of his day (five time winner of the Tour de France in the 1950s and 1960s), and he smoked regularly and loved his wine. There is even a story of him setting a time trial record with a massive hangover. Enough energy inputs will allow your body to deal with extra toxins.
Nooooooooo!! Not ready to read this one. I might come back to it...in a few years.
I haven’t read this one yet. Let me grab a third cup first, then I’ll dig in.
Without reading it, I’ll say this. My great grandmother was born in 1867 and died in 1973, when I was a freshman in college. She lived just shy of 106 years. For 90+ years on her farm she started her days the same way. Visited the outhouse. Did 10 toe touches. Ate bacon and eggs for breakfast. Made a big pot of ‘cowboy’ coffee, which she kept simmering on the woodstove in the kitchen all day. By the time she had her last slug, just b4 bed, it was so thick you could stand a spoon upright in it.
So I’m skeptical, admittedly without reading.
I have to agree Moody. There are just too many things in this "Modern World", which "Experts" say a BAD FOR YOU? Anecdotally, I grew up in a family of coffee drinkers and my Mother lived independently to 95 years. For my part; I began drinking coffee in my late teens and through 35 years of commercial fishing (15-20 hr days) I drank 30-40 cups per day. Today, at 73, I am still drinking a lot of coffee (perhaps weaker?) But, I still consider myself healthy.
|I think we should be less concerned with what other people do and 'expound', than what our own bodies tell us?
Disclaimer" Some people might say that "Coffee" has caused my contrarian nature?
LOL. Totally agree. It is interesting. I wrote about my great grandma. But both my parents, and my wife’s parents lived well into their 90s. My FIL is still living, at 98. He drank no coffee, tea, or soda and did not eat candy. My MIL died at age 96. Coffee was literally the only beverage she drank. All day, every day. My mom died at age 94. She was a heavy coffee consumer, and she also drank a lot of coke. She also had perfect teeth and never had a cavity her entire life (I only wish I had gotten her teeth versus my dads). My dad lived to 96 and he was an on and off coffee drinker, although his last 10 years he drank more. And then there was my grandma (dads side). No coffee. But she went through a case of coke per week. Easily. When it came 24 to a case in the 6.5oz bottles. She lived to 100.
I’m 69. If I don’t have my morning coffee it is not going to be a good day. And that’s the way it’s been since I was about 15. And that’s the way it will stay.
Loved your ‘disclaimer’. I am certain coffee has nothing to do with my contrarian nature, as my mom always told me I was a contrarian in the womb.
Very interesting about your former vocation. I come from a long, long line of seafarers and fisherman and people who made their livelihood from the sea. My wife and I have lived full time on our gracefully aging 35ft sailboat since 2011. And in the 33 years prior to that we lived on our boat 5-6 months out of the year.
And as you know even way better than me, there is no way to get through 4 hours on 4 hours off routine on a long passage with just a crew of two without the coffee pot full and gimballed on the stove, ready to be reheated when the mate shakes you awake and says, “you got 10 to be on deck. And oh, BTW, there’s been a windshift, it’s blowing 30, I had to shorten sail, we are dead downwind, and unless you can figure out how to get the autopilot to steer, you’ll be at the wheel until midnight. And don’t even think about waking me early. Now you got 7. But I did light the burner”.
Metabolizing caffeine does vary individually. I love it but can no longer tolerate it and gene differences are involved. My 104 year old grandma swore by Vic's VapoRub under her nostrils each night or morning maybe 🤔
As you are a nutritionist, should I put Vic's in my coffee?
Standing by.
I prefer cardamom powder or essential oil in my coffee. Ginger, nutmeg, cloves are all good to. I don't think Vic's is edible. 🤔😉
Haha!
Around Christmas I actually enjoy a nice peppermint essential oil and nutmeg in my coffee. Not so comfy in 45C but I persist.
Good on ice too!
Sounds like you might also be drinking traditional Indian Chai with important organic ingrediants
Almost anything that you can fit in your mouth is edible. The question is whether it's digestible or poisonous. I'll bet that with the addition of a pinch of cinnamon and sugar Vicks would clear up mucus inside of me.
I think it is vaseline based so too much would be a laxative. The essential oils include camphor which isn't typically considered edible and mint which is edible. Lemongrass essential oil is good for clearing congestion and citrus ones would be if not allergic.
One thing I continually wonder about is that there seem to be an increasing number of people living to very advanced ages and being healthy until near the very end. These are not people who over the decades followed the type of health practices touted in the various natural health movements nor avoided foods and other items deemed bad for you.
I'm not a coffee drinker. I don't do well with stimulants, they make me feel weird and jittery, coffee tends to loosen my bowels and it makes my urine smell disgusting.
LOL...."Too much information."..:)
What happens in the chamber pot, should stay in the chamber pot.....
btw: Smelly pee probably suggests not enough liquid intake?? The "coffee" might be flushing out nasties???
Good gut microbes are a longevity secret. People in their 100s had Akkermansia mucins in common. It protects our gut lining and would help prevent leaky gut.
Jennifer; I know that my "evidence", is not evidence at all. But, is merely personal experience and physiology. However, I will always believe that "Experts" are more concerned with creating their own 'relevance' than with the wellbeing of others?
Quality of life (and contentment) trumps "Quantity" of life, every time.
I just finished a book that included a good discussion of how to tell who to trust - One Idea to Rule Them All - Reverse Engineering American Propaganda, by Michelle Stiles
Academia has been corrupted by funding systems - only the people saying what corporate funders want heard are the ones that get funding. Controversial 'nutrition' research is at risk of having been manipulated in some way by funding/goals. Results that are desired can be achieved generally in some way or another - if not interpretive bias error or outright fraud. I try to look for repeated findings - many studies. GreenMedInfo database gave me a 538 page report on research about pomegranate and health. Too much of anything can be a negative and variation exists in people's ability to use something.
Individual experience is the best way for an individual to learn what works for them - try it with a scientific mindset - one thing at a time, watch for changes. Eliminate for a while, then reintroduce.
Individual case studies used to be a major part of medical research - not the squashing together of all data into one 'evidence-based recommendation for everyone'.
"- try it with a scientific mindset - one thing at a time, watch for changes."
I pretty much agree, but I'm not structured enough to practice it??
Mainly, I do not "Expect" instant gratification from natural foods and medicines. I believe that the instant results from commercial drugs are a result of both:Placebo effect and psychoactive ingredients being added to those drugs?
As others have said here, different chemicals, affect individuals differently.
Also, I believe that there is a component of "Intention". I do know that the Mind can heal the body!
People with bad digestion would be looking for improvements from the bad. If healthy and working on preventing long term issues then yes, changes would be subtle. What I would notice then is once I ran out of a supplement or routine product occasionally I would start feeling worse and adding the product would improve things. That would be an indicator to keep myself supplied and doing that routine. I am unusual in that I have multiple gene differences affecting my metabolism. I get worse physically and mentally if I skip too often several nutrients and that is in addition to trying to eat healthy.
and vics works!
Petroleum jelly..
my mom is 91 and drinks black coffee daily since forever. she is healthy. i drink coffee every day. healthy. i have two healthy kids. i've already given up weed and booze. i am keeping my coffee. we are a resilient species. common sense goes a long way. JERF: just eat real food, coffee included—with full fat whole milk thank you.
I like mine with heavy cream. If I’m going full fat I’m going full fat.
I steam my milk for a latte. I like your thinking though. 😃
Coffee is not the culprit, sugar is! Coffee is loaded with benefits, sugar is the poison that produces those diseases that are blamed on coffee. My wife and I start our day with a pot of coffee, eggs and bacon and cheese curds and will continue to be healthy at 75 and 76. Never been healthier!
I agree sugar is the (main) poison. I don't do breakfast and have mainly one meal per day at lunchtime because I'm into intermittent fasting. As I've got older, this less-food-intake seems to suit me well. I started it because of digestive problems, so changed my diet and eating routine. Now much better. I've no idea what was 'wrong' since I haven't visited a doctor in 40 years but I feel o.k now. I'll be 68 in a couple of weeks.
Fantastic, thank you. Makes sense.
I just read parts of this to my family and they said:
"F him! That stupid moron!"
"I'm not going to stop!"
"Blow it out your a**!"
omg...the people are addicted.
Edit: ok, I just told them that I published their comments and they are backpedalling.
"Yeah well I deserve a right of reply!"
"This is too simplistic!"
Yep. sounds like addict talk to me.
Haha
:)
As I sit here with my morning coffee (organic) and ponder the question if I want to give up my coffee and all it’s antioxidants and it’s benefits of lowering colon cancer and the goodness of a bitter drink, I think No.
Well, ain't this one a bummer? For myself, I'm not giving it up. There have to be *some* guilty pleasures left, or the cost of "staying healthy" just isn't worth it, lol.
That said, I've been drinking very dark roasts for years. I'd heard that they have less caffeine than regular coffee. (Evidently that is now debated, as every search return has a different take.)
What I do know is that I drink a cup or two a day and feel great. And if I happen to go to a restaurant where regular coffee is served, I not only don't like the taste of it, but immediately get that "caffeine buzz."
There have been scientific studies that prove switching one's morning coffee for green tea takes away 95% of what little joy is left in a middle aged person's life 😂
I believe the darker the roast the less the caffeine. You can test the idea. Get organic green (raw) coffee beans. Green Coffee beans are some of the hardest substances to grind. I know of no other herb or grain that compares.
If you get it ground fine enough you can soft boil in a pan until the water turns brown (light or dark depends on you). Then drink. Do a small cup as I believe raw (green) coffee contains lots of caffeine.
Coffee lightly roasted or dark roasted is so much easier to grind. I believe that is why coffee is roasted.
Thank you, Unbekoming, for taking time to gather and share this important information. Much appreciated ~ and, oh, so interesting to see how strong the hold of addiction is in the majority of comments so far . . . .
You should hear my family right now.
🤣👍~ I know. You'd think the fact that people simply can't function without it might be a clue about just how addictive it really is.
TBH, I love the stuff if it is bullet-proof (i.e., drenched in cream and butter and stevia) ~ but my body simply cannot tolerate it, at all. In fact, I feel like those of us with a low tolerance for caffeine are actually the canaries in the coal mine.
Coffee gets too bad of a rep I think, but then again, maybe it's the coffee addict in me saying that.
Ex: Matcha/ green tea is touted as healthier, but has more oxalates, which can form crystals in our body, making us more sensitive to EMF. Coffee has very little oxalate.
Oxalate in instant coffee is worse than fresh brewed but still has enough to bother me. Oxalate sensitivity varies.
Thanks for your thoughtful insight Jennifer. Good to know
I’m suspicious. For instance, If you are not eating carbs those stress hormones are used to generate a substandard energy production. (Gluconeogenisis) Leading to illness and blocked energy because it’s using organs, bones and soft tissue to create glucose (the body’s PREFERRED fuel). . So coffee won’t make much difference if the body isn’t getting enough carbohydrate substrate to fuel energy production at the mitochondria in the first place. Current lowcarb, keto and carnivore plus IF and OMAD is damaging over time. I know because it damaged my metabolism, encourages undereating, thinned my bones, (2 surgeries in 3 years from broken bones) damaged my thyroid, lowers sex hormones and put on belly fat, all on less than 900 calories a day. Perhaps, you should investigate this as truth about what the gurus don’t tell you. This info is leaking out. Sure, we can survive without carbohydrates, but should we. It works for a time because you are defaulting to low calorie and off some bad food like the SAD diet. So there is no magic there. Insulin is not the villain. Sugar (glucose and fructose) is not the devil. It was a revelation to me and I’m trying to correct the damage. It isn’t easy. Yes, I drink coffee, after orange juice in the morning. Then breakfast.
i want to read YOUR blog. that's some good intel right there. talk about food for thought. now i won't feel so guilty every time I consume carbs. I was a sucker for low-carb/paleo/IF, etc etc. thanks for sharing all that.
I didn’t jump into carbs quickly. I first started eating 3 real meals a day. First thing I noticed was I slept better. With dreams and deeper sleep. I then started easy to digest carbs like fruit and a few potatoes, and white rice to get my digestion used to more carbs. Adding any carbs requires a drop in fat. I’ve been slowly doing that to wake up my metabolism, help my hashimotos and try to restore proper energy channels using carbs/glucose. Fruit isn’t a real problem—it’s a combination of glucose and fructose to digest for quick energy (glucose) and fructose to save for restorative energy. Lustig is disingenuous about this. I’m up to about 1800 calories a day. About double I ate before. Maybe 200 grams of carbs. Fat is way down (20-30 %). Yes I gained some weight—payback for denying what my body needed but as energy increases that should change. I don’t eat bread or grains. But loving fruit and some rice and potatoes. Much more variety. I cook veg—not eat them raw because of irritation and antinutrients. Limited dairy, mostly cheese. Milk doesn’t like me. Lol. No seed oils, of course. I learned there is no real need for omega 3s and they are just as damaging as the 6s. Just lower PUFA and you can balance the 2 better. You can get too much added omega 3s and most you buy are oxidized and rancid in some way or another. Waste of money. A lot of myths in this space also. I’m 76 and have no joint pain, hike 3 to 5 miles regularly , high D level and no cravings, even eating fruit. I’d check out Jay Feldman Energy Balance podcast (YouTube). Start at the beginning. Or Kate Deering. I started with her book. Mercola has changed to this and lots of info there. I just got sick and tired of keto and was gaining weight and terrible sleep and anxiety p,us more unwelcome stuff, like insulin resistance . This is after 6 years. It has initial real benefits of course. Sorry, maybe this was TMI. 🤣. If diabetic or other problems, it may be different. Most conventional doctors know very little about our complicated thyroid and they keep raising the levels of thyroid hormones to say “your thyroid levels are normal” keeping most people from helpful treatment. I consider that simple gaslighting. Take care, Mrs Miller.
No worries re TMI. I relate! 😂 very interesting and liberating about omega 3s. gave up fish oil due to nosebleeds anyway so I'll consider that a win. Will check out those recommendations, thank you. I was always after fat loss and anxiety/depression relief. Increasing protein and lowering sugar helped but I went high fat/low carb... nothing contrived lasts, for me anyway. And now that I'm menopausal I just don't care as much. Priorities change and I'm not as rigid or obsessed as I was when I was fertile lol. now I just eat real food, try not to overdo it, and let the macros fall where they may.
If I drink OJ my blood glucose will go through the roof- that doesn’t happen to you ?
900 calories a day on High Fat Moderate Protein Low Carb way of life? I suspect you did not do something right, because that seems clear under eating, and everyone else I've read tells of vastly improved health by going keto or carnivore.
i did strict carnivore for only a week and i can corroborate that it was incredibly hard to eat more than 1200 calories a day. so much beef and fat that you simply cannot overeat. i lost a few pounds but felt sluggish and depressed from the monotony and calorie deficit. i think the starting point is relevant. if you go from the SAD to keto, you'd likely see amazing results. if you're already JERFing it might not be such a good trade off.
Disappointed that decaf (swiss water process) has high levels of caffeine too. I am open to switching to herbal coffees (would welcome any brand recommendations). I tried to look up caffeine levels of caffeinated vs decaf home brew K-cups on Dunkin Donuts and Trader Joe’s websites - could not find this info. Talk about hiding the ball.
The bit about 80% caffeine is decaf is clearly erroneous. I switched to decaf when heart issues make me acutely sensitive to stress. If there was 80% or even 8% caffeine in my decaf I would have definitely known it.
I drink lupine coffee - the best non-caffine coffee I've found so far.
Everything I've read suggests 12mg per "cup" for decaf.
i only started drinking coffee 10 years ago. i can go for days/weeks without, though i like it. one can be addicted to anything. even worry about things, or being sad, or annoyed.
Forgive me. Had to do this. 😊
Airplane II Coffee scene:
https://youtu.be/Bbv5B71KmkA?feature=shared
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
The priest is the best bit. Thank you Kelli.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5440772/
Must everything be bad for me. What's next cigarettes and vodka are killers??? 😉
I'll take it under advisement, but I'm an old dog, not a lot of new tricks left in me.
Doh... I usually start the day with a pot of coffee and book reading for the first few hours. And as comedian Robin Williams says - coffee helps jump start his colon. Going to be hard to give up coffee... :(
I can attest to the ability of caffeine to add to stress, whether in coffee or dark chocolate. When I was experiencing heart issues, caffeine would definitely exacerbate the problem. As would anything that added to stress, even something as seemingly benign as driving in light traffic. Six years later, I've recovered enough that I can drink caffeinated coffee now and then (which sometimes happens when the barista gets my order wrong). But it's not fun when I have another one too soon afterward (if that happens, I take a Benadryl).
The human body can deal with less than optimal nutrition, provided you are reasonably healthy and active. In moderation, vices are OK. And coffee in moderation is not much of a vice. But it is important to realize that if you start to experience chronic disease, caffeine may not be doing you any favors and could be helping you dig your own grave a bit faster. And it's probably a bad idea in any amount if your lifestyle involves a lot of external stressors. You are just overwhelming your body's ability to handle excess stress.
Allopathic doctors have a pretty poor record of solving their patient's problems. If they were stupid enough to tell them to stop drinking coffee, they would risk having their patients realize just how bad most of their advice usually is.
I was following Robert W. Malone's Substack for a while. He had heart issues and realized caffeine was starting to have a negative effect. His first thought was to ask his doctor to adjust his heart meds! Yeah, more toxins are going to fix the problem. Poly-pharmacy to the rescue! He should have listened to his body and switched to decaf. At least until his body could have a chance to recover from his recent heart issues.
On item 15, number 8 it is stated that decaf retains 80% of caffeine, and later it is stated that most, but sometimes not all, caffeine is removed from decaf. If the former were true, I'd never have been able to make the switch to decaf. The latter is more accurate.
Exercise, which improves energy production, can mitigate a lot of bad habits. Jacques Anquetil was one of the greatest cyclists of his day (five time winner of the Tour de France in the 1950s and 1960s), and he smoked regularly and loved his wine. There is even a story of him setting a time trial record with a massive hangover. Enough energy inputs will allow your body to deal with extra toxins.