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Lady5g's avatar

You probably know this quote: “If you only knew the magnificence of the three, the six and the nine… then you would have a key to the universe.” -Nikola Tesla

33 clearly represents those numbers, of course. Given its ubiquitous presence within each of the 3 (there it is again) earthly control mechanisms, religion, government & banking, it makes me wonder what exactly we're up against.

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But it was not until the Congrés de Wilhelmsbad that the alliance between I]luminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed. This assembly, of which the importance to the subsequent history of the world has never been appreciated by historians, met for the first time on the 16th of July 1782, and included representatives of all the Secret Societies — Martinistes as well as Freemasons and IIluminati — which now numbered no less than three million members all over the world. Amongst these different orders the [luminati of Bavaria alone had formulated a definite plan of campaign, and it was they who henceforward took the lead. What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and now heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One such honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu, a member of a Martiniste lodge at Lyons, returning from the Congrés de Wilhelmsbad could not conceal his alarm, and when questioned on the “‘ tragic secrets ”’ he had brought back with

https://archive.org/details/NestaHWebsterWorldRevolution/page/18/mode/1up

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

It is a reference to 1/3 of the angels rebelling against God. 33.

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Discepolo Lazzaro's avatar

It's not literal 1/3rd. That is only stated like that by John the Apostle in the Book of Revelation not as a literal number but a symbolic of a minority of the angels that are being referenced. This you will find the truth of when you do correct John 3:1-21 minded/Acts 17 Berean exegesis, not eisegesis of course.

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

Revelation 12:4 says the dragon swept a third of the stars from heaven, and Revelation 12:7–9 makes clear these stars are angels. Matthew 25:41 and Jude 1:6 confirm a literal rebellion of angels with a real portion following Satan. Scripture presents this as a factual event, not a symbolic minority. The one-third figure is literal and consistent across the text.

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Discepolo Lazzaro's avatar

Revelation 12:4 is symbolic, not literal. If one takes the time to comprehend why John wrote that book in many various forms of symbols, metaphors than literal, they will see why Revelation 12:4 is the only place in the New Testament such figure is given.

"Matthew 25:41 and Jude 1:6 confirm a literal rebellion of angels with a real portion following Satan. Scripture presents this as a factual event, not a symbolic minority.

I never claimed that part wasn't literal, so you have read my words with eisegesis, like Revelation 12:4. Further 12:4 is not referencing the past rebellion.

"The one-third figure is literal and consistent across the text."

This is eisegesis, not Acts 17 Berean exegesis. I will state it again as an elder male John 3:1-21 qualified disciple of the authentic austere Bible Jesus the Christ [God] who He calls all man to:

The rendering of the "1/3 of the stars" in Revelation 12:4, is the only place in the Scriptures such a reference as "1/3rd" is given. Jesus teaches that you don't make a doctrine out of one verse, you require at minimum two or three other witnesses in the Scripture correctly exegeted to establish a matter. In the time of John the Apostle and his fellow Apostles, it is to be Acts 17 Berean understood as symbolic rather than literal. He was banished to Patmos by the Roman Empire due to not bowing down to Caesar as "God". So John deliberately wrote this book of future events in far more symbolism than literal due again to how the Roman Centurions and higher level Roman military soldiers such as commanding officers etc were reading his letters when he was on Patmos which he would send to the born again assemblies. They would read them to ensure he as a Judahite was not sending letters to such communities to gather up a rebellion, against the Roman Empire, hence why they are far more deliberately symbolic than literal and why he wrote them in a type of style that true born again Judahites would comprehend as part of their cultural and ethnic Scripture language but would be innocuous to the Roman soldiers, there would be no hint of sedition etcetera so this way they would read the letter and think nothing more than this must be some Israelite religion [in their pagan eyes] story telling. The "1/3rd" represents the intensity of the spiritual battle rather than a specific number of evil angels. This understanding aligns with the nature of apocalyptic literature, which often uses symbolic language, and in this case as explained above, it's not a literal 1/3rd.

Here's some further Acts 17 Berean exegesis to prove the correct reading of the New Testament in the proper 1st century John 3:1-21 / Acts 17 Berean exegesis;

https://jeffdavis.blog/2025/04/22/debunking-the-myth-did-a-third-of-the-angels-fall-from-heaven/

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

Let me be clear right now since you do not seem to 'get it'.

Exact numbers in Scripture are literal.

Revelation 12:4 gives “one-third of the angels” for a reason. If it were symbolic, John would not have used a precise fraction. Matthew 25:41 and Jude 1:6 confirm a literal angelic rebellion. This is factual, not metaphorical.

You probably think the 'number of the Beast' is symbolic without any concept that John used 666 precisely because it was encoded via Gematria and reveals the name of the Beast to someone clever enough to actually understand how to interpret scripture properly.

Also, citing some amateur Substack writer as “proof” is meaningless. Your reply reads exactly like something generated by ChatGPT, and I have no interest in debating an AI. I am a pastor and professional biblical scholar. Revelation 12:4 is literal, and no AI or substack blog can change that.

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Discepolo Lazzaro's avatar

Galatians 4:16.

According to Matthew 24:11, you're His enemy, for if you were truly His John 3:1-21 disciple, you would not dangerously make yourself guilty of John 8:47, 1John 2:18-22, 1John 4:3-6, 2John 1:7 + parallel passages.

I didn't cite a substack author. Gematria was not practiced by the Apostles but their enemies since numerology is an diabolist dark arts matter, not a John 3:1-21 qualified one. If you think my reply reads as allegedly ChatGPT, then you further prove you're Matthew 24:11 + parallel passage qualified. Further to so called "AI";

According to the authentic austere Bible God/Jesus the Christ **"AI" does **NOT** exist in our God/Jesus created nature of reality, therefore, those who have been supra beguiled by the father of lies to believe "AI" exists in our Jesus created nature of reality, THEY are the actual AI.** To claim it does, is agreeing with the most powerful, wealthy, influential, famous and infamous, unhidden and hidden etc spiritual children of the father of lies/satan/that ole dragon/Antichrist that it supposedly exists outside of science fantasy/fiction thus you are agreeing with them in calling God/Jesus, our omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, sinless, perfect only Creator that He's a liar when IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for Him to lie! You know what "AI" really means to 10 ruling kings of the earth and all their employees who know better and who don't and thus are supra useful fools/pawns for the Antichrist? "AI" really means to TPTB;

All Imprisoned / Incarcerated / Inthralled / Impounded

Absolute Imprisonment / Incarceration / Inthrallment / Impoundment

Authoritarian Insanity/Infernality/Ill-omened/Imprecation

Antichrist Insanity/Infernality/Ill-omened/Imprecation

The blue pill world has not one iota of an idea, OF COURSE, we are being compelled, under the guise of "Beneficent Technocracy" into an ultra dank, dark, de-man-ising, depressing, dismal, dreary chilling cold cacotopia nightmare. We will own nothing, they will own everything, and not us, but they will be happy. The red pill world MUST REMEMBER: **Resistance to the Antichrist and to his prophesied final empire, is obedience to the true Bible God/Jesus.**

You reveal you're who the true austere Jesus the Christ referred to in Proverbs 1:7 [the latter part], 8:13, 12:15, 14:12, 16:18, 17:15-16, 18:13, 28:26, Jeremieh 17:5-9, Matthew 7:1-6, 13, 21-23, 13:14-15, 15:7-9, 19:16-19, 24:11, Rev 3:15-16, 21:8, 22:15 plus all parallel verses. An abomination is the WORST thing anyone or anything can become to the true Jesus, it means one is a heartbeat away from the Lake of Fire. I pray you have a true road to Damacus/John 3:1-21/Luke 13:1-5, 24:47, Mark 1:15 etc conversion before it's too late, because tomorrow is not promised, and it's too late to change your mind after you die and end up in the Lake of Fire eternally.

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

I’m not reading or responding to another incoherent wall of verse-dumping. That is not scholarship, it is not discernment, and it is not Christian conduct. It is rhetorical overload used to intimidate rather than reason.

First, you do not get to declare fellow Christians damned. That is explicitly unbiblical. Final judgment belongs to Christ alone. Repeatedly threatening other believers with hell, the Lake of Fire, or eternal destruction because they disagree with you is not prophetic authority, it is spiritual abuse. That behavior aligns far more closely with the accuser than with Christ.

Second, your claim that the apostles did not understand or use gematria is historically false. The apostles were Jews, trained in rabbinical interpretive traditions. Gematria predates Christianity by centuries and is still practiced by rabbis today. To deny this is to demonstrate ignorance of Second Temple Judaism. You do not get to erase Jewish interpretive methods because they inconvenience your argument.

Third, dumping random verses without context is not exegesis. It is not “Acts 17 Berean.” It is confusion masquerading as zeal. Quoting Scripture incoherently does not make your position biblical, it makes it unstable.

Fourth, citing obscure blog posts or amateur Substack writers as “proof” is meaningless. That carries zero weight in serious biblical scholarship.

Fifth, Revelation 12:4 uses an exact fraction. Exact numbers in Scripture are literal. Symbolism does not require precision. If John intended “many” or “a significant portion,” he would have written that. He did not. He wrote one-third. This is not complicated.

Finally, your comment reads like AI-generated slop mixed with paranoia and theological grandstanding. I am not debating an algorithm, a manifesto, or someone projecting damnation onto others while claiming moral superiority.

This is not a conversation. It is the rant of a mentally imbalanced sociopath wearing the robes of Christ. I bet you think you are 'chosen' by God too, right? People like you are all the same. You use religion as a crutch for your own mental illnesses, never study Scripture, develop your exegesis from Bitchute, Rumble, and Youtube conspiracy videos, and declare damnation on anyone that does not agree with you. You are not chosen. You have no concept of what you are talking about. You are like a bad exposition dump in an ai-generated Marvel movie script. I was trying to be nice here but once you said I was going to burn in Hell for eternity - that was the final straw. If anyone in this conversation is damned, it sure isn't me.

And it ends here.

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Repost King's avatar

Charlie Kirk’s killer found after 33 hours

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Unbekoming's avatar

Thanks, I didn't know that.

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Jessica's avatar

Here’s Patel saying it at (0:35)

https://youtu.be/fpC-SDZ4f8g

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Gecko1's avatar

Charlie Kirk = CK

C=3

K=11

3x11 = 33

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Yeowoman's avatar

What about this one: Ukraine has significant potential in the production of biofuels derived from algae, which are considered a renewable resource due to their ability to grow rapidly and convert carbon dioxide into biomass and oil.

Ukraine has been recognized as a pioneer in commercial-scale algae cultivation, with the Institute of Botany and M. G. Aolodny National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine identifying 33 promising algal strains suitable for biofuel development.

:( :(

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Jackie Ferruzzo Horton's avatar

You mean the patsy.

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Yeowoman's avatar

Urgh .. so many such stories currently I'm afraid. Do we automatically assume any 33 is fake ?

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Repost King's avatar

I assume all 33-stories are trustworthy

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ann's avatar

The number 33 is commonly used to signal hoaxes, a great many of which you referenced in this article, including atomic bombs, JFK's faked assassination, Olympic Park bombing, the Koresh event, OK city event, VA Tech event, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Whitman, John Lennon "assassination", Tate/Manson event and astronauts "on the moon".

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Yeowoman's avatar

It is highly disturbing because so many current news stories display the number . 33 injured, 33 weeks, 33 hours etc .. Is this supposed to indicate they are all fake ?? quite a convincing accident ended with the driver being taken to a police van numbered 33 . I was convinced the event was genuine but then I saw that van. What are we to conclude ? all those evens are faked now ??

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ann's avatar

Most likely. I stopped watching the "news" years ago to protect my mind and soul from the constant lies, propaganda and brainwashing. You might enjoy Miles Mathis' work. He has analyzed hundreds of these faked events, both historic and current. His papers on JFK http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf and Tate/Manson http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf are a great places to start.

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Friar Tuck's avatar

But it was not until the Congrés de Wilhelmsbad that the alliance between I]luminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed. This assembly, of which the importance to the subsequent history of the world has never been appreciated by historians, met for the first time on the 16th of July 1782, and included representatives of all the Secret Societies — Martinistes as well as Freemasons and IIluminati — which now numbered no less than three million members all over the world. Amongst these different orders the [luminati of Bavaria alone had formulated a definite plan of campaign, and it was they who henceforward took the lead. What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and now heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One such honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu, a member of a Martiniste lodge at Lyons, returning from the Congrés de Wilhelmsbad could not conceal his alarm, and when questioned on the “‘ tragic secrets ”’ he had brought back with

https://archive.org/details/NestaHWebsterWorldRevolution/page/18/mode/1up

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Yeowoman's avatar

By now there should be so many whistleblowers tho .. should there not ? if every major event is faked ? it is troubling,

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ann's avatar

The people involved in the events are paid actors. Who is going to blow the whistle?

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Yeowoman's avatar

thousands of them all keep quiet ? could so many really be controlled ? whole communities ??

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Nicholas Wyles's avatar

If you do speak out, which media or state entity is going to give you airtime? Plus you've signed an NDA, received a payoff / had a prior misdemeanour quashed.

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Utopian Fool's avatar

In a nutshell? Yes, pretty much.

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Yeowoman's avatar

there are no innocent 33s anymore :(

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Utopian Fool's avatar

I was shocked to discover that Paul Weller's latest album is called 66... But apparently it's to celebrate his birthday. Perhaps sometimes a cigar is just a cigar after all... 😏

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Yeowoman's avatar

I just noticed this one too .. Ukraine has significant potential in the production of biofuels derived from algae, which are considered a renewable resource . Ukraine has been recognized as a pioneer in commercial-scale algae cultivation, with the Institute of Botany and M. G. Aolodny National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine identifying 33 promising algal strains suitable for biofuel development.

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Utopian Fool's avatar

And let's not forget the abiotic fuel theory that is originally Russo-Ukrainan and has not been debunked.

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Yeowoman's avatar

lolol :)

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Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

WORD

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Simonde's avatar

The supranational power operating above the level of nation-states is a slippery and difficult to identify beast. Some clues can be found in organisations such as NASA (definitely not a space agency, surviving kidnap and sex slave victims often report being taken into a NASA building) and the Smithsonian. Another interesting place to look is international shipping. According to ship tracking websites, some of the largest cargo ships travel through Antarctica, not around it but through what is supposedly solid ice. Most of these huge ships are registered to Kiribati, a small group of islands with little industry and no deep sea ports. It's quite possible what we know as Earth is a giant slave colony, owned by a society beyond the ice-wall and operated by Royals, Rockerfellers and related elites.

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tony's avatar

The First World War officially ended at 11:00 a.m. on November 11, 1918.

11 + 11 + 11 = 33

See also

Masonic monuments in Israel and the last Prophecy

https://torahcodes-mn.blogspot.com/2012/03/masonic-monuments-in-israel.html

Great collection of photos.

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Unbekoming's avatar

Thanks.

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Yeowoman's avatar

you might want to watch swilliamism channel on YT .. he visits all the number 33 buildings in London. Very arty and fascinating .

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CM Maccioli's avatar

Incredible referencing Unbekoming, a feat. I don't wonder anymore who controls the world and what they're doing or agenda they are pursuing. This tail wagging the dog theory is ludicrous, imo. Is the US controlling Israel or is Israel controlling the US. Really?? All, every analyst says the US is in command while Israel is our lapdog in The M.E.

You have GOT to be kidding me. From the French Revolution till today, if you want to reference recent history, albeit it started way before the Crucifixion, England's jew bankers controlled the world. Is there a difference between jew bankers and ordinary jews? No, there is not. Is there a difference between jews and zionists? No, there is not.

Are the jews cheering on this genocide? Yes. Do they believe they are God's chosen people and the rest of humanity are beasts of burden? Yes. Do they believe the holocaust that never was proves their point that they have been persecuted since time began? Without doubt.

Are you allowed to say this in public? Sure, but you better duck. That bullet has your name on it.

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Lady5g's avatar

Rank & file Jews, like rank & file Americans, are just as deceived, brainwashed & propagandized as the rest of the world. The parasites in power are equally as willing to sacrifice large swaths of Jews as anyone else.

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Discepolo Lazzaro's avatar

Here' evidence for what you stated, i wish i could show you the pictures themselves where i am extracting this from. Zionism uses lower level Jews as canon fodder/pawns.

Here's an excerpt from Henry Makow - https://www.henrymakow.com/000482.html ;

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The victim are ordinary Jews. The Jewish elite regards the Jewish rank-and-file as pawns. "Anti Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren," says the author of _Protocols of the Elders of Zion (9-2)_ a "forgery" that reads like the blueprint of the New World Order.

Jews had to be terrorized into setting up Israel as a "national home," i.e. colonising the Middle East and creating a centre of world government. World Finance funded the Nazis. Zionists actively collaborated with them. See "The Holocaust as Mental Paradigm." See also "Zionism: A Conspiracy Against Jews".

Zionist betrayal is the reason Jews went passively to their deaths, says Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld in his book _"Holocaust Victims Accuse."_ Non-Zionist Jews were worth more dead than alive to the Zionist leadership who, Shonfeld says, reaped the moral and financial capital from their "sacrifice." See my "Zionism: Compulsory Suicide for Jews.".......... Because "Jewish" leaders have been exploiting their "lesser brethren" for

a long time, and are doing so today. Ordinary Jews pay the price and this price could rise.

In my opinion, Zionism is a movement to deceive Jews into advancing the objectives of British imperialism. (See, _"The Jewish Conspiracy is British Imperialism"_ ) Zionists who have built their lives on a false premise naturally will reject this view.

Specifically, Jews helped the British-Jewish elite colonize the oil-rich Middle East under the pretext of Jews needing a national home. Despite the appearance of neutrality, the British (and Americans) financed, trained and equipped the Jews.

(John Coleman, _Diplomacy by Deception p. 107._ )

The "British" are really the London-based international banking cartel associated with names like Rothschild and Rockefeller. It doesn't answer to any government.

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Important Note: When you see the word British in the above citation, it's actually a reference to the "Brith'ish" [Covenant Man] aka the false Jacobites who claim to be the direct genetic descendants of Jacob, it does not refer to the British people from what i have learned. Hence British Imperialism could be argued to truly be NOT a European agenda but a faux-Jacobite Banker agenda which as usual, they blame a myriad of great ongoing history changing evils since the 400s A.D. on Europeans, like the Trans-Atlantic Slave/Thrall Trade which was truly a Jew'ish/faux Jacobite project. I'm only touching the a few surfaces here. Hope this helps.

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Mary W Maxwell's avatar

You say "the Jews" do this or that, or think this or that, but that strikes me as ridiculous as saying "Americans think this or that." I am American, but you don't know what I am thinking unless you have talked with me. Do you? I'm a Republican, too, can you guess my position on Trump or on healthcare, or anything?

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CM Maccioli's avatar

I know. I used to offer exemptions as well. Not anymore. The evidence is mind blowingly overwhelming. Right in front of our eyes. They admit it. I only repeated what they themselves have spoken.

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Mary W Maxwell's avatar

Who's the "they"? Netanyahu?

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CM Maccioli's avatar

Netanyahu is singular. "THEY" are the jews. "They themselves" is plural. What people are we talking about that the word "they" is confounding you?

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Moe's avatar

I know a number of Jews...probably a few dozen. Some are completely against zionism and what israhell is up to...some are all in. You can't paint with such a broad brush.

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CM Maccioli's avatar

Oh yes I can, When asked my opinion, I make no distinction as to whomever I am speaking with or the people overhearing. It is my opinion and I have a basis of logical truth in my arsenal for that opinion.

Do your jewish friends, against zionism, object to or voice a different opinion to those jews who are all in with Israel? My guess is, they stay silent, so they are all in as well.

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Moe's avatar

Yes, some of them do...I've been privy to some of these discussions, which turned quite emotional and even angry.

You don't know, by any stretch, every jew in the world. Impossible to make your claim.

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CM Maccioli's avatar

Theoretically, I'll concede. Do I want to be around cultures of people who horribly mutilate young girls or parents who allow their daughter to marry at age 12? No. Do the people of these cultures who disagree stand up for their own children? No, Do I want friendship with these people? Never.

Same goes for jews. Never known one who hasn't stabbed me in the back. Why is that? Because jews hate Catholics. They will never associate with Catholics and actually ask me why I wear a cross. They don't even use a plus sign in math because it's a cross. How is that any different from my view of them?

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Tuesday with Philberg's avatar

I'm pushing 70 and coming to a similar interest about how the world works and who really is in control. Central banking has become a main focal point.

FWIW, I used to only associate the number 33 with Larry Bird's shirt number, from the Boston Celtics basketball team... :)

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Gecko1's avatar

The Arctic and Antarctic Circles are imaginary lines of latitude at 66°33' north and south respectively.

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Gecko1's avatar

Really big freemasonic hoaxes often combine a 33 and a 77 for maximum oomph.

Like on July 22, 2011 in the very freemasonic state of Norway.

That's when it is claimed that far-right neo-Nazi extremist Anders Behring Breivik shot and killed 77 persons with a mini-14 semi-auto rifle and a Glock pistol. Wow. Rambo has nothing on this guy. That is some serious rootin' tootin' shooting going on.

7+22+2+1+1 = 33

33 + 77 = 110

Reduces to 11

The Norwegian security services by complete coincidence had staged an anti-terror exercise that very same day in the very same location outside Oslo where Breveik supposedly later carried out his dastardly deed.

Un-be-lie-vable:).

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Gecko1's avatar

33 is XXXIII in Roman numerals.

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CelticJedi's avatar

Interesting reading. In regard to the Mason's I would note there is a letter in George Washington's Records from the Grand Master of Scottish Rite Masonry in England warning the Rite had been infiltrated and coopted by the Illuminati and needed to be disbanded. The Grand Master attempted to do exactly that only to die within days of his attempt. I suspect many "movements/organizations" started with at the least noble intentions, if not great acts. The non Irish who cannot be named with their control of the creation of currency have a great strength in infiltration and coopting that they have literally become masters of. I do feel that geometry as is all creation is sacred in its initial design. In this free will world, humans have the ability to choose how and what these energies are used for.

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FollowsTheWay's avatar

Satan is at the top, the god of this world.

He is the prince of the power of the air (the spiritual realm that surrounds us).

But only by the permission of the one true living God.

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Horsea T.'s avatar

So it makes me wonder why the true living God would allow this hideous entity/power to become the prince of the power of the air.

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FollowsTheWay's avatar

Perhaps reading, and studying, and believing his Word might give an answer?

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? (Rom 9:20)

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Horsea T.'s avatar

Well, now. That God also gave us humans a brain capable of asking these kinds of questions. If he (He to you) did not want us to question how he made us, he would have made us simple minded animals living in forests, dens, trees, etc.

Re studying and reading the bible, I have done so, though not the entire work. People ask, as do I: "How can the bible be its own authority?" So, we come back to humans' natural curiosity in these kinds of matters. Thank you for replying to me.

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If you had studied as prescribed by the Word and believed the Bible you would have had your answer.

There is "studying" and then then there is "studying to show yourself approved unto God."

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2Tim 2:15)

God is not a God of half-steps, thought carnal, worldly man is.

If we don't DO what Jesus says then the Bible is closed to us.

It is a spiritual book.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (John 6:63)

Until then, we will remain in darkness.

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Marcella Amlie's avatar

Interesting. Thank you. My advice is to become literate in Astrology since the Freemason use it to time their events. Also Mr. Ovasson has an interesting book about Washington DC, my hometown.

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bb Comet's avatar

Bravo, you've touched the surface! An interesting read!

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Robert Seip's avatar

I think you've been drinking too much Rolling Rock.

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Matt's avatar

11 letters in Rolling Rock, multiplied by three (for no good reason) is 33!!!!111one

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Avalanche's avatar

... or not.

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