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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I've been saying that mRNA cannot be deployed in humans since June, 2022, but hardly anyone paid attention. Here is the latest version from May, 2023:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-problem-with-mrna

Already two years ago, "vaccines" became moot, because there is a poetic variety of alternative delivery methods:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/no-need-for-any-more-vaccinations

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Yes, I also participated in the discussion there, and tried to popularize the article. It is modified and synthetic protein that has created a lot of modern illnesses; I've been writing about it since January, 2024, and this is one of my latest:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-bodys-automatic-reaction-to-foreign

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Carol B's avatar

Early on in the drama, I discovered a handful of docs, some strictly researchers, some with patients, who discovered this nano-tech nightmare. This information is covered on substack. They discovered that this nano delivery system was not only in the C19 unvax but in other medical products as well, dental anesthetics, for example. Then discovered in flu shots, insulin injections, even childhood immunizations. So, at this point, who is telling the truth? Is there a spike protein! Or nano? Did the C19 injection have a different, more effective delivery system than the other methods? So early, on in this evil game, I thought, who is telling the truth? Who is presenting a “medical narrative” for the public? Intentionally? And why? I’m not in the science field so I turn to the experts for their studies, conclusions. I recall one researcher stating in an interview that she was to speak at a medical conference. There were spike enthusiast doctors reporting at this event. Perhaps others were just learning about the alleged spike. When she went off script, attempted open up the nano-tech research findings, she was immediately shushed by the panel of docs in charge. I thought, very interesting. But even more fascinating, to come out lately is the denial of an actual “virus”. Any virus. How far down the rabbit hole does this continue? And if you want to open another can of worms, look to the famous testing for the alleged C19 virus. The fog of war, me thinks. Challenging to distinguish the good guys from the bad.

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Right Side of History's avatar

To follow true science simply follow those who have been silenced. That’s a good start to weed them out.

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Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

Dr Ana Milhacea is one of those docs...her clinic is in YELM, WA

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Carol B's avatar

Yes she is. Several others. Mainstream docs don’t go into this nano tech matter. While nano folk seem to shy away from spike protein. And now we have a company that has come out selling treatments for everything Covid & vaccine. And podcasters who reach the people are paid handsomely for selling these products. Specifically to the non vaxxed. Those smart enough to see thru this charade. Should you be suspicious? Yeah, I think so. Hard to know who the real rats are. Create a disease. Get the media, paid docs or threatened docs to blow up about its danger. Pull out, magically a vax (created in advance for said disease), offer to public begging for it. Know that some folks will say, no, don’t think so. Later on, “good guys” come out with meds that treat said disease, side effects from life saving vax. They knew when that vax comes out, not all will line up for it. Back up plan in place? Yeah, I think so. Fog of war.

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pobrecollie's avatar

"You aren't an expert in..."

Honestly, she sound like all the the covid hysterics with appeal to authority.

Whats the actual evidence for this nano tech? I have seen microscope pics with structures with unnatural looking straight edges and thats about it. Could by crystal structures.

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Carol B's avatar

Yes. Very interesting. 🤨 They don’t discuss nano, graphene. Why?

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Howard Steen's avatar

Scoglio was totally spot on. Very good to draw attention to this, thanks.

The SP is piece of marketing myth making and is more junk science

There has never been a detection of the magical SP in any person’s blood by a direct measurement method. Everything is indirect via supposed identification of antibodies which offers a very low, or essentially no standard of proof.

It’s an RTB for a magic fairy story (Reason To Believe) for those who cannot think for themselves.

https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/S-Scoglio---No-Evidence-of-Spike-Proteins:d

Stefano was not the only person to state this.

Here is a Norwegian scientist

https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/Kjetil-Elvevold---Spike-Protein-Story-Pt-1:f (you‘ll find parts 2 and 3 on my channel)

Even Germany‘s top pathology expert Prof. Arne Burkhardt who banged on a lot of the time about this mythical SP which he said he was detecting by a staining technique on his histology slides had to finally admit that he could not tell if the tissue and organ damage he was seeing was caused by the SP or simply the toxic lipid nano particles.

https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/Prof-Burkhardt---Damage-from-Spikes-or-LNPs--:2

So I have always considered this story just another of the multiple lies people were fed during the Corona global psyop.

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Nonoptional Advice's avatar

Hmm interesting this addresses my objection… I’ll watch Burkhardt’s admission first before retracting my first post…

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Howard Steen's avatar

Remind me please, what exactly was your objection? - I couldn’t find that comment.

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Doug Leclair's avatar

Well summarized Howard. Thank you!

I appreciate what I learned from him as well.

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Howard Steen's avatar

I think this is what Prof Burkhardt saw. Thank you for sharing. I think all of these expert scientists have become much too ‘smart’ for the good of humanity and they are getting to try out all of their crazy ideas in today’s totally unregulated medical playground where anything goes if it’s good for business. That’s one result of living in a technocracy.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Spike protein is basically damaged protein.

It's not the cause, but the result of damage that isn't cleared out. That's why the clot shots result in it.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/years-before-mrna-and-spike-protein

Same with so called misfolded proteins which are the blame for CJD. It's a result of damage from pesticides and not the cause.

Allopathic medicine is upside down, chasing the results as if they were the cause of disease while ignoring the real causes.

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Sumotoad's avatar

So true. Hypertension is a symptom, not a disease. Amyloid plaque is a symptom, not the cause, of Alzheimer’s.

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Pamela Rapoza's avatar

Dr. Jane Ruby has been debunking “spike proteins” and, Ryan Cole for years now and nobody has paid any attention to her! In fact Dr. Malone ( the so-called inventor of mRNA technology) actually sued her for pointing out some of the things he said. She has said repeatedly “there’s no test for spike proteins” when doctors today are trying to cash in on selling supplements to detox a person from spike proteins!

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Denny Lane's avatar

Dr. Malone was an early guest (frequently) on WarRoom during the Plandemic and he was referring to the “vax” as “an experimental gene therapy” always, if memory serves me. Ryan Cole was also a guest on the program on occasion. To my knowledge Dr. Jane Ruby was not a guest. This angle that Unbekoming is taking on “the deception” is confusing based on the past 5 years of “indoctrination.” I’m willing to dig in to learn the truth and I’m convinced the 55 elements that are referenced are probably true. Bottom line, there was no Informed Consent so the concoction could have been anything.

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Kirsten's avatar

I thought of her too! I'm glad to know the details that Stafan has outlined, because I don't remember Dr Ruby saying how they we're coming to those conclusions, using antibodies (nonspecific) rather than direct protein identification.

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Geoffrey Newton's avatar

I am by no means an expert on this subject but Dr. Nancy Banks is a Harvard Educated doctor and in her book about HUV/AIDS, she makes similar claims. For example, the first three pages lists over 70 conditions that give false positives for HIV, and most relevant to your article she sites Dr. David Ho’s “viral load” test for HIV that includes an “amplifier”. Why have an amplifier if the sample is from an infected person with high viral load? Surely there is plenty of virus in the sample. Is Dr. Ho detecting his own bait and calling it fish? Someone who is dependent upon the HIV/AIDS paradigm should not be confirming it, especially when the manufacturing inserts warns; “this test cannot be used to confirm HIV status.” Why not?

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Michael Voulgaropoulos's avatar

Yes, that was disturbing Unbekoming. Thank you once again. It's enough to make one a buddhist honestly.

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Susan's avatar

The last paragraph of your email newsletter says, "In the interview that follows, pay particular attention to Scoglio's systematic dismantling of each supposed mechanism of mRNA function,... "

I do not see the interview. Am I just missing it? Where is the interview? Can you provide a link?

This article is another prize-winning one from you! I am loving your work so much!! thank you!!

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Unbekoming's avatar

Sorry, I’m referring to Scoglio’s interview with Engelbrecht, should have been clearer. Link at the beginning of the article.

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Zachary Duggan's avatar

Important work thank you! The biggest crime against humanity in history.

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Chris Weisdorf's avatar

What about all of pathologist Ryan Cole's work showing the proliferation of the spike protein in the "died suddenlys"? I attended his "The Cells Don't Lie" presentation in person in 2023. Tell me why he's wrong. Linked here- https://rumble.com/v2rjeei-the-cells-dont-lie-dr.-ryan-cole.html

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Unbekoming's avatar

Watch Cowan’s interview with Scoglio, they bring up Cole’s images and discuss them. It’s not what it seems.

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

Its both. They are both right and wrong, but both also allowing their own bias and agenda's to colour their thinking.

Which muddies the waters unecessarily. Also, neither are in the trenches on the "clean up crew", dealing with the triage. So they can theorise out the yinyang, from ivory towers on whether its all in the mind or actually bioweaponised tech 😉

Both of which are accurately effective BTW...🤫

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

Pictures of a cell being fried by EMF look the same…All an illusion of confusion 💸☠️🙏

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Howard Steen's avatar

Nobody has done measurement of the spike protein in anyone‘s blood using a direct measurement method. It is only ever ‘inferred’ to be present using indirect measurement methods which claim to detect antibodies which are spike specific. But this is not proof.

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Gordon Groves's avatar

But Labcorp will charge you hundreds of dollars, thousands, for these phony tests that give you fake results. They don't care what's real or not. It's just business.

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Rhys Jaggar's avatar

Please define your method for 'direct measurement'.

1. How do you detect 'it'?

2. How do you prove it is 'spike protein' and not something else?

A protein gel showing a protein of the correct size is not proof.

Will you be purifying the protein sufficiently to sequence its N-terminus? How many amino acids will you sequence to 'prove' it is spike protein and not a variant? How many pints of blood will you need to complete this investigation?

Come on, I'm all ears to hear of your definitive proof experiments.

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Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

Cole is a liar...he aggressively STOPPED A SCIENTIST FROM SPEAKING about other toxins in the shots while attending a medical conference...he is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

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VinnyBee's avatar

So glad someone remembered that and called it out. #RedPants

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Gordon Groves's avatar

55plus exotic metals and he says if you say that you're a tin-foil hatter. Just a hustler like Robert Malone.

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Gordon Groves's avatar

Cole has always been a hustler, like a few other prominent bullshitters

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Robert Townshend's avatar

You had me at "control".

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

IMHO it is all a compiling of poison being used as smokescreen for confusion from the worldwide military EMF fry that has/is/will be microwaving us in increasing increments, since radio waves…

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Webe1's avatar

Definitely a means of assault. Data is the new currency.

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

Not talking about data…Our internet is run on under sea/ground fibre optic cables…I am talking about microwave frequency…

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

Masses of pissed off people could pull down towers and antenna pretty quick…

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chris fike's avatar

And they should!

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Marcella Amlie's avatar

Heavy metals in militarized energy fields and alleged heavy metals in the jabs interact or there's some synergy between all the elements otherwise just genocide isn't enough to justify the global jab campaign. However thank you for talking about EMF toxicity cooking the planet.

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

I am absolutely agreeing that all of it is connected to depopulation and “Transfer of Wealth,” but the FEAR, contaminated masks, lobotomy PCR and jabs were a cyclone of liability exempt confusion for the launching of the “Primary” military grade direct energy weapon that they now have locked and loaded, worldwide, while everybody spins arguing about spike protein and shedding…

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Marcella Amlie's avatar

Wifi is a microwave with 5G and 6G as weapons grade microwave applications. Sure, there are underground/underwater internet cables but there are also satellite wifi microwave and SMART city wifi microwave along with wifi everywhere acting to turn geo-engineered skies into a refracting and conducting plasma. Try to visualize the electromagnetic soup within which we're all being forced to exist. How is it being achieved? Wifi is now everywhere and I hate it.

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Darling Crimson's avatar

I stand with you Marcella 💪🥴

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Marcella Amlie's avatar

Thank you.

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Darling Crimson's avatar

🥰 all these frequencies can be remedied by a stay in nature of course...the longer the better. Sometimes I will Hum away the negative artificial frequencies and it helps. Best your way Marcella 🤗 ❤️

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traceydoesrhymetime's avatar

Our internet comes from under sea/ground fibre optic cables, hydrogen balloon satellites and some other tricks…These towers are alpha, beta, gamma and heat people up from the inside for crowd control 💸☠️

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Factscinator's avatar

🎤 Tonight, on MOCK THE BUG — Spiked!! 🦠💥

Host: VAXWELL SMARTS 🧠🕴️

Guest: The One and Only (Allegedly)… Spike Protein!!! 🧬🤡

[🎬 SPOTLIGHT ON HOST DESK. VAXWELL SMARTS appears in a metallic hazmat tuxedo 🧪🤵‍♂️ with biohazard cufflinks ☣️ and waves a sparkly PCR wand like a fairy godliar ✨🪄]

VAXWELL: Good evening, pathogen skeptics and fiction fans! 🎭📚 Welcome to Mock the Bug — the only late-night show where imaginary microbes spill the beans before science even finds the beans! 🫘🔍 Tonight’s guest is the darling of disaster narratives, the cover model of CONVID Comics™, the protein-shaped panic-pusher that’s got stockholders giggling — give it up for… SPIKE PROTEIN! 🦠📈💋

VAXWELL: Spikey, buddy — you’re the crown jewel 👑 of this con. How’s it feel being the most hyped-up protein in history, never seen anywhere except a grainy EM shot of tortured monkey goo? 🙊📸

SPIKEY (voiced like a guilty mobster): Ey, Vax... it’s exhausting, capiche? 🥴 I gotta tell ya. I'm hustlin’ 24/7 in those press releases 🗞️. But between us? It’s all smoke and mirrors 🎭💨

VAXWELL: Let’s rewind. You were discovered in what again — a poisoned monkey kidney stew? 🧪🐒🍲

SPIKEY: Yeah, they tossed some snot 🤧 into a dying cell line, starved it, poisoned it, and when the cells exploded like bad leftovers — BAM! 💥 They said, ‘Look! A virus!’ That’s like throwing bleach on a houseplant 🪴 and claiming you discovered termites. 🐜🚫

VAXWELL (chuckling): But wait, they sequenced you, right? That’s real, rigorous science! 🧬🧑‍🔬

SPIKEY: Pfft. They sequenced fragments, then used software to stitch together an imaginary ‘genome’ — kinda like Mad Libs for viroLIEgists. 🧩🧠📉 They needed a scary-looking crown protein — so poof, I was born. CGI, baby. 💻✨ No purification, no isolation — just pure fabrication.

VAXWELL: So, you never even met the ‘virus’ you’re supposedly a part of? 🤨

SPIKEY: LMFAO!! 🤣 I don’t even know the guy! I’m a solo act conjured for theatre. 🎭 I’m the spike of a virus that was never there — like horns on the Easter Bunny. 🐰🦄 Doesn’t exist, but hey, it looks scary in cartoons! 🖼️👻

VAXWELL (grinning 😏): And yet Big Harma — sorry, Big Pharma 💊💰 — built entire ’mRNA’ ‘vaccines’ off your, uh… digitized essence.

SPIKEY: Vaccines? More like Life-Neutralizing Particles. 🧫💀 Those LNPs — lipid nanoparticles — didn’t deliver anything. Japanese biodistribution studies showed they got lost like drunk tourists 🍶🥴 and parked themselves in places they shouldn’t: 🧠 Brain 🫁 Ovaries 🪱 Spleen 🚽 And some were even peed out faster than a detox juice cleanse!

VAXWELL: So you’re saying the ‘mRNA hijacking the cell’ story is…?

SPIKEY: …like trying to mail a ransom note ✉️🕵️‍♂️ but the envelope dissolves in the mailbox and ends up in your grandma’s pancreas. 😳 If that’s ‘gene therapy,’ I’m a Nobel Prize-winning paper towel. 🏆🧻

VAXWELL: But wait — they said you’d train the immune system! 🏋️‍♂️🦠

SPIKEY: Train it?! 🐶👻 You can’t train something to fight a protein it’s never seen, coded by fake mRNA that never made it through the front door! 🚪🛑 That’s like trying to teach your dog to bark at ghosts by showing it a blurry PowerPoint. 🐕💻👻

VAXWELL: Good point! Before we wrap — tell the folks at home the truth. Give it to us straight, Spikey. 🎙️📢

SPIKEY (head hanging, wobbling 🥺): Alright... deep breath... I don’t exist. 🚫🧬 The ‘virus’ I’m based on was never isolated, never proven to exist, and I’m just the poster-protein of a marketing campaign. 💅📊 I’m a molecular myth, a patented puff-piece, a spiked lie in the punch bowl of fear propaganda. 🥂💉💀

VAXWELL (turns to camera 🎥😎): Well, there you have it, folks. No virus. No spike. Tonight’s guest? Just a figment of Big Harma fiction. 💭💸📺

🎠 Tune in next week when we welcome… 🎖️ Bobby Kennedy! — the hero on a white horse 🐎 who rode into town to bring your kids all 76 jabs in the Quackccine schedule — for ‘viruses’ never proven to exist. 💉🤹‍♂️

Until then, remember: ❌ If you can't isolate a ‘virus’... don't inoculate against it! ❌

[🎉AUDIENCE CHEERS📣. Theme music plays 🎵 Spikey is escorted out by men in suits made of VAERS reports 📑🚷]

VAXWELL (winks 😉): Good night from Mock the Bug! — where even imaginary proteins crack under cross-examination! 🧠🔍💥

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Everyone needs tonsltake a big step back from this shit and take a breather. Truth is, the likes of us plebs will never know who we can truely trust about any of this stuff, unless we are the actual guy doing the actual work ourselves. Thats not to dismiss Scoglioni. Its just that all we actually know is that billions of people were injected with something, of what exactly, and if the all got the same, we don't know. We don't actually know shit. Except that i know people who, in the immediate aftermath of the shot became unwell in a multitude of different ways. Some worse than others. Most i know have no obvious side effects, but that doesnt mean there is not a cumulative reaction, or some chronic issue being caused, its just not as obvious. So chill out, loads of peeps got injected with shit of some description, all they need to do is stop getting injected with shit, or taking shit, and let thier body repair. Simples

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Dan Roach's avatar

Thanks for your summary. It seems that big money in medical research leads to big fraud. The whole peer review process is compromised.

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Gordon Groves's avatar

how erudite..........not

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Thanks Gordon, oh man of many words. Tell me dear friend, what exactly did you find 'not' erudite about my comment. What about what i said was the opposite of erudite. I have listened to a few full interveiws with scoglioni. And taken the time to hear what he has to say. He seems trustworthy. But in this world, unless i know someone personally in the real world, i treat it all with ounce of suspicion. If you were as erudite as you seem to think you are, then you would do the same. And if you don't, then you're just a plonker that like to use clever words.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

I'm still waiting for something......anything erudite to come out of your head Gordy

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Renee Green's avatar

It is extremely difficult to find out much information about his book. In the interview that is available at OFF Guardian, “That mRNA “vaccines” cause cells to produce spike proteins is a fairy tale” Scoglio says this about his book:

“... it’s impossible for mRNA to enter the cell and produce anything. …But nobody is reading the damned scientific literature. In my book…, I report all the scientific literature up to 2021. That is at the same time that the Corona “vaccines” were released.”

The book he wrote is not widely available and is only published in Italian. I believe it is the kind of book worth preserving, but now that Scoglio has passed, will anyone take on that project? I would like my own copy; however, can I afford it? With groceries and everything else being quite expensive now, I am budgeting carefully and am unsure if I can justify purchasing the book. I think it would be a great idea to buy the book, convert it into a PDF, and translate it into English. Perhaps that will happen one day. In the meantime, I’ll provide a translation of the book description that I had GROK, read more at my ss:

https://open.substack.com/pub/xnumber11x/p/the-machine-forgets?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=paf6o

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