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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I’m sure the audience here knows about the fallacies of viruses and all, so I won’t belabor the point. What I do want to bring attention too is who are the individuals who gave us these diseases like smallpox, plagues, etc. it’s here that we must examine history and find that everything we’ve been told mainstream about medicine is a lie: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/rich-people-do-magic

S Terry's avatar

You are correct. Vaccination was proven useless and dangerous, after 45 years of in depth study of the smallpox pandemic, by Dr Alfred Wallace in 1889 - https://sterry448.substack.com/p/vaccination-proved-useless-and-dangerous?r=pvup8

This was during Oil Tycoon Rockefeller and Carnegie's era when they began funding all NA schools of Holistic medicine as long as they incorporated his poison oil products into them, and creating the meningitis 'vaxxine' that was administered to ALL soldiers worldwide before sending them of to WWI. This vax killed 2/3rds of the world population. Rudolf Steiner warned of this coming also...

The Secret Covenant & Birth of Pharma - a must read! https://sterry448.substack.com/p/the-secret-covenant-and-pharmacology?r=pvup8

Excellent well researched article. Thank you.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts.” - Richard P. Feynman - (May 11, 1918 – February 15, 1988)

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

more than 30 years ago I read a book from Feynman. A critical thinker, got my respect.

S Terry's avatar

The word "science" comes from the Latin verb "scire," which means "to know." It reflects the systematic pursuit of knowledge and understanding of the world around us. scindere "to cut, divide" (from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split;" source also of Greek skhizein "to split, rend, cleave," Like Einstein who split the atom creating the Atomic bomb ... and we all know what that did... Don't mess with Mother Nature.

Science is an art when used correctly to wonder, explore, discover and acquire wisdom of the world around us ... It was never intended to be the definitive answer to the Allness of Being! Destruction occurs when humans egos (Ease God Out) get in the way, falling for the matter world (money) and blocking the true wealth of our ethereal Conscious beingness ... living in the past rather than the present. This is why we are in this mess today ... in FEAR - False Evidence Appearing Real ... reliving wars of the past.

"The past is nothing but a dream to the Now, and the value of any dream is in the waking up from it. So, in reviewing your past as it has been brought to your conscious attention, evaluate it in such a way that it blesses you now. In the blessing of the Nowness is the potential of the individual released, and a sense of poise, balance, and stability arises in the experience. In the growing awareness of right identification will be the fulfillment of the present incarnation." Kenneth G Mills, https://kgmfoundation.org

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Yes. Your reply reminds me of themes outlined in the Celestine Prophecy. I believe "awareness" is embraced within all things, and awareness evolved "consciousness". The "Mind" as an awareness tool. Use wisely and sparingly...

The Way (Tao) instructs to exert nothing in excess... Best regards.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

And we are to trust these people with our health?

Scaler Wave's avatar

Strike at the root...

Germ Theory is a fraud, always has been.

denise ward's avatar

Yes. VirusTruth dot net

Factscinator's avatar

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Baldmichael's avatar

"Smallpox Was Never Eradicated"

It was just rebranded. Thus is ever was. A pox on the medical profession's houses.

'Medical profession' anagrams to:

- dim fecal poisoners

pimaCanyon's avatar

never ending search for and eradication of the bogeyman! They are running after the supposed cause of disease when it's not bogeymen at all that cause disease. I'm reminded of a story about a man walking around underneath a streetlight looking at the ground. Another man comes along and asks him, are you looking for something? The first man answers, yes I'm looking for my car keys. Second man asks, did you lose them here? First man says, no I lost them over there, pointing 20 yards away. Second man says, then why aren't you looking for them over there? First man says because the light is so much better here.

CocotteMinute's avatar

I greatly appreciate all your articles and I believe it's beneficial to develop critical thinking skills in the face of the flood of approximations, simplistic theories, and even outright lies that are presented to us as "the one and only absolute truth" (only to hear the exact opposite with the same conviction a few years later).

Here, I find the argument about the contagiousness of chickenpox in children a bit weak. I had chickenpox when I was about 15 years old; my symptoms started a few days after my little sister (10 years old at the time). We had healthy food, sunshine, perfectly adequate living conditions, no environmental pollution, and no stress... and I'm skeptical that "metabolic growth producing waste that must be eliminated through the skin because all the other elimination organs are overloaded" could produce the same symptoms at such different stages of growth as 10 and 15 years old.

In short: Critical thinking should not, in turn, become a religion....

S Terry's avatar

I agree. Chicken pox are common in children and going through it assists in building antibodies to the Shingles virus in later years. I had them and survived. However, I did and did not survive the MMR vaxxine at age 2. Next day I got pneumonia, scarlet fever & mumps, temperature soared to 109, and the body went into a coma, and was on life support for 2 weeks. I met Jesus on the other side. That was in 1956 and I am miraculously still here. Also acquired 4th stage colon cancer in 1997 that developed over 15 years from Pharmaceuticals, first to cure a parasite... with a diagnosis of 2 weeks to live if I didn't have the colon removed immediately - I prayed to God ... Long amazing story short... I was in complete remission in 3 weeks.

CocotteMinute's avatar

I am truly happy that you have overcome all these trials. I also believe in your spiritual encounter, whatever name one might give to the Spirit. You have won the battle against 15 years of medical mistreatment: you have received the gift of survival. May it grant you strength for many years to come!

Baldmichael's avatar

How can you be sure your sister had no stress, and did you believe that you could catch the chickenpox and did your parents believe that?

CocotteMinute's avatar

Well, I was there... I am very open to alternative theories, but let us have the humility to realize that a theory is a way of explaining what we do not know; then let's see where they lead us. And let's get away from binary thinking where everything is either completely good or completely bad. There is a varying proportion of take-it-and-leave-it in any theory. Furthermore, a theory that cannot be questioned becomes a dogma. And in no way am I willing to replace one religion with another.

Baldmichael's avatar

Thank you for your reply. You seem to be limiting yourself by saying 'I was there'. Unless one is inside the mind of a person, let alone their body, one can never fully appreciate the scope of another.

We are after all individuals; even twins do not occupy the same space, so each person has to be viewed separately.

Nevertheless there are certain shared stimuli, external and internal, which can direct disease.

Your observation that you had the same symptoms as your sister is but one aspect. We are after the cause and symptoms are the result of the stimuli and not something that one passes on.

CocotteMinute's avatar

You're right to point out that we can never truly know what's going on in someone else's mind. Regarding what we're discussing, I'll give a real-life example: a friend of mine developed a spectacular outbreak of cold sores or fever blisters right after a breakup. It would take a serious case of bad faith to deny the connection. On the other hand, no shock of that magnitude, or even one significantly lesser, affected my sister when she had chickenpox.

What I mean is that when the facts confirm the theory, it means the theory is correct for the observed case, but it's not intellectually honest to try to bend the facts to "prove" the theory beyond what's observable. I'm a very down-to-earth person! 😉

Baldmichael's avatar

Okay, but you are still conflating the symptoms of chicken pox with disease. We don't 'catch' people's symptoms, we just display similar symptoms as our bodies are broadly similar.

Steven Williams's avatar

I wonder what happened to the Native Americans. Supposedly many of them died off due to smallpox. If not “smallpox”, what was introduced to them to cause this?

George Bredestege's avatar

I am certain that if you were to go down that rabbit hole you would discover psychological stress on a population removed from its regular dietary and clean water sources, likely some poisoning via “vaccination” from military doctors, environmental pressure such as ivies that cause skin rashes that may not have been prevalent in the areas that the tribes had lived (because for generations they had adapted to avoiding those areas containing those pressures), etc.

Living for generations in the same ways in the same places at the same time of year suddenly disrupted by outside forces creates a cascade of factors that can upset the health of a population.

Steven Williams's avatar

Good points. Readily available of alcohol certainly didn’t help either.

Neil Hanson's avatar

Hey now, stop binging up inconvenient facts that ruin her carefully constructed narrative!

eileen's avatar

We can stop this by refusing to comply and refusing to listen to 'experts', the gatekeepers of the silos. What we are finding out is that the silos only change color, or are built out of something different than the silo down the street. Inside the silos are the same junk that is called by a different name, each with a chosen, highly credentialed gatekeeper whose only claim to the silo is the invention of a new Latinized long word that nobody can pronounce. Yet when one analyzes the contents of each silo, they contain the same junk: a toxic soup of heavy metals, GMO food, animal waste, and whatever else the real parasites invent to control us.

It is difficult to live without being exposed to all this junk, but it is not that hard to say no to the gatekeepers and let the body do its thing. Once we do that, the silos no longer look different. And the silo whose contents have been exposed, such as the one containing the flu is the same as all the other silos. Your wallet will be a lot happier and your body will start acting like it is supposed to act. How simple life would be.

When this happens, all the real parasites disappear into the woodwork, like the cockroaches they are. Shedding light on them is the first step to eliminating them. Another well researched essay on how these silos are created and maintained. They need our compliance to survive. Without it, these silos just become another boring site on the road to wellness, not even worth a stop for a photo, no matter how glitzy they appear.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Right on eileen. Belief in "authority" is the most egregious viral infection ever invented, and it seems to be contagious. The only cure is to treat ALL expert dialog as waste products of education. Flush twice...

denise ward's avatar

Beautifully and potently expressed! Solutions are usually simple. Complication means it's usually a crock of sh!t. Truth is simple - light. As you said, shedding light on them and their ridiculous rational is enough to dissolve them. Truth is beautiful.

ShieldMaiden's avatar

Continuing gratitude to you.

Maggie Russo's avatar

I have a question. Using standard terminology:

We know the chicken pox vaccine is resulting in terrible cases of shingles in young people. Might smallpox have evolved to be less deadly and more chicken pox like and could the vaccine now pressure the virus to become more virulent and more small-pox like?

Neil Hanson's avatar

If what this author claims is true, then she should have NO problem lying down in bed with someone with smallpox or leprosy or even having sex with someone with syphilis! After all if all these "diseases" are just the body cleansing itself from environmental factors and not contagious there would be NO danger of transmission, but i highly doubt she would put her money where her mouth is! I would wager the chances of her doing it are less than ZERO! Prove me wrong, ma'am.

S Terry's avatar

I doubt that is what she is saying... Don't tempt satan! ALL Pharma is poison. All vaccines since Oil Tycoon Rockefeller's 1st meningitis vax distributed to all soldiers pre WWI, along with use of 'agent orange' (chemo today) killed 2/3rds world population in 1918. All Pharma is poison - see my comment above.

Peter Grafström's avatar

If the reaction of the body to toxines explains smallpox then the pox would contain toxic material but that doesnt seem to be confirmed does it? This aspect ought to play a key role in the debate. Diseases depopulate the world so that may be one reason for disease:to cut down our numbers. If that is the main real reason then it is less surprising that we fail to find out exactly what it is. When we know more about it we might grow too much in number. I dont mean to sound pessimistic but it is a bit odd that progress in medicine has been so slow. I know greed is one reason: That sick people generate more profits. But is that all? Isnt it surprisng that no scientific establishment has managed to break that spell?

denise ward's avatar

Perhaps there are other aspects to disease, most of all existential threat. Daily. We all live like this now. Every day we duck and weave the psychopaths in our midst. The familiar ones that we see on the big screen and are cited in the Epstein files, are unbelievably mere projections of what we are here "on the ground". So to change what's on the big stage, we have to change ourselves. Our families, friends, neighbors, coworkers and those we come into contact with daily, they do it. They may not sacrifice the children to the gods, but they do "it" to children. I know so many adults who were sexually abused. It goes on in our midst so that's what we get on the big screen, when something goes on down here on the ground at such massive levels. Bottom line, if this moment is worth anything it is worth looking at our own selves. Humans have a lot of waking up to do. We virtually need to start from scratch because the lies have been so penetrating. They never told us in their history lessons about the millions of bison they killed to starve the first nation people.

Hannah's avatar

When public‑health agencies evaluate whether an intervention is helpful, they look at very broad indicators such as: how many people are hospitalised, how many people develop complications, how many people die, how often the virus spreads in communities, how quickly outbreaks grow or shrink. The problem is that hospitals routinely make an initial diagnosis based on symptoms and on what is statistically likely in a highly vaccinated community, and this early diagnosis is what gets reported to public health authorities as a suspected case. Once a suspected case enters the surveillance system, it is counted in the official totals and is almost never revised even if later laboratory testing shows that the patient did not have the disease, had a vaccine‑strain detection, or had a different illness entirely. Strain identification happens only in the laboratory through genetic testing, but this information usually stays within the lab and does not flow back into the public‑health reporting layer because it does not change the intervention strategy, which focuses on wild‑type transmission. As a result, clusters of symptomatic cases can be publicly described as part of an outbreak even when later testing shows that some of those cases were not wild‑type infections, and the public never sees the corrected picture because the reporting system does not update the initial numbers. This misreporting later becomes the population level data used in research to communicate supposed clinical efficacy, along with antibody studies which just show a form of incomplete immunity or immune reaction.

denise ward's avatar

We shouldn't believe anything they say. We need now to start going our own way, start afresh, anew, clean slate, make our own authentic science, keep our own records, databases and do our own experiments in real environments. Nothing lives in a lab. That environment cannot be relevant to biology with all the factors that real life outside the lab entails. It's almost laughable that we ever took those experiments as gospel.

Hannah's avatar

From the standpoint of acknowledging medical harm and acknowledging viruses, viruses cannot be isolated the way bacteria are because bacteria are complete living cells that can grow on nutrient plates or in broth, while viruses cannot reproduce unless they enter living cells and use the host’s machinery, so identifying a virus requires letting it multiply in cells, tissues or embryos and then separating the viral particles from the surrounding material for structural or genetic examination. Poxviruses were historically distinguished by the characteristic lesions they produced in laboratory systems such as the chorioallantoic membrane of chick embryos, although similar rashes can be SOMETIMES CONVENIENTLY mistaken for one another in clinical settings. In a laboratory, however, viruses that look alike on the skin can be differentiated by methods such as PCR, or electron microscope. Electron microscopy can also distinguish viruses because poxviruses are large brick‑shaped particles while herpesviruses have a smaller icosahedral structure, so even when clinical appearance is misleading, laboratory analysis can clearly identify the virus involved. What’s disingenuous is identifying by symptoms alone, and also citing cases of measles or such, without clarifying if the case spread from a vaccinated person or occurred naturally. *** Labs can tell vaccine strains and wild‑type viruses apart by looking directly at their genetic sequences, because vaccine strains contain specific mutations that were introduced when the virus was weakened and these mutations act like a fingerprint. Tests such as PCR help with this because PCR looks for a short, known piece of genetic material and makes many copies of it only if that exact piece is already present in the sample. This makes PCR useful and valid because it does not create new sequences and it does not copy unrelated material; it only amplifies what matches the target. When the copied sequence matches the known pattern of a vaccine strain, the result is identified as vaccine‑derived, and when it matches the pattern of a naturally circulating strain, it is identified as wild‑type. Sequencing can read longer stretches of the genome and confirm these differences with even greater detail, so even if two infections look similar on the skin, the underlying genetic signatures allow a laboratory to tell them apart. Requiring these tests would knock the “outbreaks” claims off their aims.

Neil Hanson's avatar

So the claim that NO virus has EVER been isolated/identified is total bs?

denise ward's avatar

Very good. I'd really like to hear Hannah answer this.

Hannah's avatar

what actually happens is…Strain identification happens only in the laboratory through genetic testing, but that information is not routinely passed on to clinicians, patients, or public health authorities, which means the distinction between vaccine strain and wild‑type strain often remains inside the lab rather than entering the broader reporting system. Hospitals are required to report suspected cases early based on SYMPTOMS alone, and these reports enter surveillance tallies before any laboratory confirmation is available, so they remain in the system even if later testing shows a vaccine strain or a different illness entirely. Public health authorities focus on tracking wild‑type transmission because the mythology says that is the only thing which drives outbreaks and requires intervention, so strain‑level details are not highlighted in public summaries since they do not change the response - which is to tell people to vaccinate more. As a result, clusters of symptomatic cases can be publicly described as part of an outbreak even when some or all of those cases later turn out to involve vaccine‑strain detections, and the public never sees that distinction because the reporting system does not update the initial numbers. (And the claim “vaccine‑strain measles is always mild” is not supported by large datasets. Additionally, severe cases involving vaccine‑strain detection are not discussed publicly.) The limitation in the data is therefore not biological rarity but the fact that strain‑level findings do not flow beyond the laboratory into the clinical or public‑facing layers of the reporting structure because this would dismantle the assumptions which are relied upon to encourage vaccination.

denise ward's avatar

Yet a virus has never been proven to exist. Do you ignore this inquiry? You may but it is very rational. To ignore it is to be a bit mischievous I say.